D1 college soccer under threat

[MacDre]

I was sold Oranges and Apples, but they had worms in them. They don;t say, "come to me and I will get you a full ride." They say, "come to me and I will get you a scholarship. I am talking about sponsoring a goat or a player that is in the actual plans of the coaches stargedy to win. The sponsor get's to come to the games and their dd get;s to go to the school. That is it. Were not talking about the Runin Rebels bro. I liked Tark because he saw all the BS going on and took care of his players, like any good coach would back in those days. Everyone won back then

Very valid point coach. Lot’s of apples with worms. They also haven’t been washed off and have pesticides on them too.
How does a coach teach tactics to a group of kids that don’t have the requisite skill set (ball skills)? I don’t think it’s possible. That’s why we have so much kickball. Is it possible to teach a group of kids to play out of the back without proper ball skills?

 

[Ellejustus]

Tark took players that should have been in jail instead of a classroom.

Vegas coach laughs. How about the________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________-that loved the $$$$ coming!!!!

 

[dad4]

One was and the other wasn’t. I have a grandmother that was a slave in the US. My grandparents from the Bahamas were part of the first settlers to the new world and were never slaves. I think my grandpa was one of the first with Royal blood to openly have “jungle fever.” My family donated materials to build Harvard University and the pineapples to start the industry in Hawaii. James Thompson aka Guinea Jim (nigger loving Jim) was one of the original Scottish planters to arrive in the new world and is my legitimate grandpa.

I was assuming your grandmother was from Brazil, or some other country that emancipated late. It is 155 years from 1865 to 2020. Hard to bridge that gap in 3 generations. Not impossible, but rare.

 

[Ellejustus]

I was assuming your grandmother was from Brazil, or some other country that emancipated late. It is 155 years from 1865 to 2020. Hard to bridge that gap in 3 generations. Not impossible, but rare.

I went surfing on the Island of Kauii one time with my bro. He's lived there for 30 years. Were adopted btw. My hair is blond and he looks like a local. In fact, he takes the tourist on adventures and they think he's a local and he goes along with it to make a buck. My wife's cousin sings on the island of Maui at those pig roasts. He's from LA and is Guatemalan 100%. However, if you look at his cover, he looks like he's lived on the island forever and he's from East LA. Anyway, I go to my bro's secret spot 20 years ago and I immediately get harassed and asked to leave the break. I did and went to the tourist spot all mad at my bro for taking me out to the locals only spot. My brother said I tried to hard to be cool with the locals and they didnt like that. I went back 20 years later and it was super fun and everyone treated me cool. They ddint; talk to me, but I got a few waves

 

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Vegas coach laughs. How about the________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________-that loved the $$$$ coming!!!!

You mean Tarkanian and the players?

 

[MacDre]

I was assuming your grandmother was from Brazil, or some other country that emancipated late. It is 155 years from 1865 to 2020. Hard to bridge that gap in 3 generations. Not impossible, but rare.

Valid point and I am not sure what happened. There were slaves in the Bahamas but my grandmother clearly wasn’t. I think my grandmother married a freed slave when she was 14 and they moved to Florida and worked in the USA as migrant workers. I don’t think there was much difference.

 

[espola]

No it is called investment . It is how pro golfers start. They get a group of rich country club members pony up travel fees, entry fees, and expenses. In return they get a percentage of the tournamen income including endorsement income for a certain period of time. It bankrupts pros that do not make it. You want to put your daughter thru this?

How does that bankrupt pros? Did you mean that it was a loan, not a sponsorship?

 

[vegasguy]

You know one has asked this question of @MacDre and @Ellejustus . Why do your girls HA

How does that bankrupt pros? Did you mean that it was a loan, not a sponsorship?

These players sign a contract for the funds or investment with return. There can be a clause that if they do not pay the investment back they owe the group money. So if they do not do well on the PGA they could be in a world of debt. It is private loans so to speak.

 

[espola]

You know one has asked this question of @MacDre and @Ellejustus . Why do your girls HA

These players sign a contract for the funds or investment with return. There can be a clause that if they do not pay the investment back they owe the group money. So if they do not do well on the PGA they could be in a world of debt. It is private loans so to speak.

Most performer (athletes, singers, authors) contracts I have been made aware of are a gamble by the promoter - the signing advance and actual expenses can be taken out of future earnings and thus make things lean for the performer for a while, but there is no obligation beyond that. If they quit and get a job as soda jerk, that is their income to keep without declaring bankruptcy.

 

[vegasguy]

Most performer (athletes, singers, authors) contracts I have been made aware of are a gamble by the promoter - the signing advance and actual expenses can be taken out of future earnings and thus make things lean for the performer for a while, but there is no obligation beyond that. If they quit and get a job as soda jerk, that is their income to keep without declaring bankruptcy.

Are you you willing to do this for a college player like Ellejustus says he would be cool with. and not necessarily, pro golfer are indentured to a point when they start out.

 

[Ellejustus]

Are you you willing to do this for a college player like Ellejustus says he would be cool with. and not necessarily, pro golfer are indentured to a point when they start out.

Girls are hurting sir and all you just laugh it off. It's your source of revenue. I get it. Enjoy the income boys!!!

 

[vegasguy]

what girls are hurting.. 12yr old girls and boys are not hurting. College players girls and boys are not hurting. You know there are more girl scholarships per team than boys scholarships and those scholarships on the girls side tend to be worth more money than a boys scholarship. If you are talking pro then why is that ? Is it oppression or market value? Now I am not saying USMNT and USWNT should not make similar wage but in league it is about revenue coming in and sustainability. So just stop.

 

[Ellejustus]

what girls are hurting.. 12yr old girls and boys are not hurting. College players girls and boys are not hurting. You know there are more girl scholarships per team than boys scholarships and those scholarships on the girls side tend to be worth more money than a boys scholarship. If you are talking pro then why is that ? Is it oppression or market value? Now I am not saying USMNT and USWNT should not make similar wage but in league it is about revenue coming in and sustainability. So just stop.

Were talking about girls here bro. The guys suck at soccer. Yes, college girls are hurting dude.

 

[vegasguy]

So let's look at @MacDre daughters future school. Cal Berkeley (although if she was a soccer player there he would cast aside her resume as she was entitled) from 2019. Below will show both have D1 soccer men and women. Average scholarship and cost in state and out of state. @MacDre will claim in state although she never truly came from there as she was educated in a private school in another country.

University of California-Berkeley

Berkeley

CA

NCAA I

M

W

13,726

15,123

14,170

42,184

Women on average of scholarship receive about $1,400 per year. Just facts.

 

[espola]

Are you you willing to do this for a college player like Ellejustus says he would be cool with. and not necessarily, pro golfer are indentured to a point when they start out.

Anyone signing up for such a plan should get an agent who is a lawyer familiar with performance contracts.

 

[vegasguy]

Were talking about girls here bro. The guys suck at soccer. Yes, college girls are hurting dude.

I was so typing a response that... well my better conscience made me erase. So I will leave it here U16 Albion Boys beat the top 12 International women's teams. The Portland Thorns train behind closed doors against the U15 boys academy team trying to better themselves and lose by 3 goals. But mens soccer is awful. Bruh.

 

[espola]

So let's look at @MacDre daughters future school. Cal Berkeley (although if she was a soccer player there he would cast aside her resume as she was entitled) from 2019. Below will show both have D1 soccer men and women. Average scholarship and cost in state and out of state. @MacDre will claim in state although she never truly came from there as she was educated in a private school in another country.

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University of California-Berkeley

Berkeley

CA

NCAA I

M

W

13,726

15,123

14,170

42,184

Women on average of scholarship receive about $1,400 per year. Just facts.

What do all the numbers mean?

 

[vegasguy]

What do all the numbers mean?

UC Berkeley both have M and W... Avg Mens scholarship is $13,726 Avg Womens Scholarship is $15,123 based in state tuition before expenses is $14,170 (good to be an instate student that can live at home to got to Cal). Base out of state tuition is $42,184 before expenses. By expenses I mean room and board not books and transportation to and from home to go see mom and dad. Now these stats may be a year or two old but these are reported stats.

 

[espola]

UC Berkeley both have M and W... Avg Mens scholarship is $13,726 Avg Womens Scholarship is $15,123 based in state tuition before expenses is $14,170 (good to be an instate student that can live at home to got to Cal). Base out of state tuition is $42,184 before expenses. By expenses I mean room and board not books and transportation to and from home to go see mom and dad. Now these stats may be a year or two old but these are reported stats.

It looks like you pulled a line out of a spreadsheet or a chart. What was it?

 

[MacDre]

what girls are hurting.. 12yr old girls and boys are not hurting. College players girls and boys are not hurting. You know there are more girl scholarships per team than boys scholarships and those scholarships on the girls side tend to be worth more money than a boys scholarship. If you are talking pro then why is that ? Is it oppression or market value? Now I am not saying USMNT and USWNT should not make similar wage but in league it is about revenue coming in and sustainability. So just stop.

If women receive tv air time, revenue will start coming in similar to how it is in Europe and Mexico. The issue is how are you gonna improve development and increase access to soccer so we can continue to win coach? What’s going to be the excuse when we start loosing?

 

[vegasguy]

It looks like you pulled a line out of a spreadsheet or a chart. What was it?

It is a tool that gives you a majority of colleges that report what Div they are including JC. Reports if they have men and women or just women programs, Avg Mens Scholarships, Avg Womens schoalarships (both athletics), in-state base cost, out of state base cost, avg SAT range, Avg ACT range, avg admission acceptance rate, % of those student receiving financial aid, enrollment amount, avg financial aid award.

It is a tool not an absolute.