D1 college soccer under threat

MacDre said:
Please elaborate.
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Elaborate how? All I’ve ever known, since I myself was an amateur, is that you cannot accept any money whatsoever, period. Doesn’t make any sense that a girl signed a professional contract, yet was able to compete as an amateur at N.C. State. Loop holes I’ve never heard existed. Surprises the hell out of me.
 
Kicknit22 said:
Elaborate how? All I’ve ever known, since I myself was an amateur, is that you cannot accept any money whatsoever, period. Doesn’t make any sense that a girl signed a professional contract, yet was able to compete as an amateur at N.C. State. Loop holes I’ve never heard existed. Surprises the hell out of me.
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Not a loophole reasonable expenses are not prohibited. Read the rule. If the smart folks that drafted the rule wanted to include reasonable expenses they could have. They chose only to prohibit compensation.
 
Kicknit22 said:
Elaborate how? All I’ve ever known, since I myself was an amateur, is that you cannot accept any money whatsoever, period. Doesn’t make any sense that a girl signed a professional contract, yet was able to compete as an amateur at N.C. State. Loop holes I’ve never heard existed. Surprises the hell out of me.
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There are kids that play minor league baseball for a few years than end up playing college football. Oldest one I can remember is Chris Wienke...dude was a 30 yr old NFL Rookie when he left Florida State. No idea what the loophole is, but some kids find a way.
 
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MacDre said:
Not a loophole reasonable expenses are not prohibited. Read the rule. If the smart folks that drafted the rule wanted to include reasonable expenses they could have. They chose only to prohibit compensation.
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Okay, to me, that’s a loop hole or a work around at the very least.
 
Woobie06 said:
There are kids that play minor league baseball for a few years than end up playing college football. Oldest one I can remember is Chris Wienke...dude was a 30 yr old NFL Rookie when he left Florida. No idea what the loophole is, but some kids find a way.
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I referred to this much earlier in the conversation. I pointed out that you only lose amateur status in the sport you sign a pro contract in. Or accept money for.
 
Woobie06 said:
There are kids that play minor league baseball for a few years than end up playing college football. Oldest one I can remember is Chris Wienke...dude was a 30 yr old NFL Rookie when he left Florida State. No idea what the loophole is, but some kids find a way.
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Russell Wilson..
 
Ellejustus said:
You? I know some parents who would sponsor a goat so they can get their dd into the school and be a part of the soccer program. It's called a win, win :)
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No it is called investment . It is how pro golfers start. They get a group of rich country club members pony up travel fees, entry fees, and expenses. In return they get a percentage of the tournamen income including endorsement income for a certain period of time. It bankrupts pros that do not make it. You want to put your daughter thru this?
 
Plus college soccer is for fools. Right @MacDre . Go straight pro.
My son had his first NBA2K private last night. The coach thinks if he plays with the Sixers squad he could be as good as Patrick Beverly. I AM ALL IN
 
vegasguy said:
No it is called investment . It is how pro golfers start. They get a group of rich country club members pony up travel fees, entry fees, and expenses. In return they get a percentage of the tournamen income including endorsement income for a certain period of time. It bankrupts pros that do not make it. You want to put your daughter thru this?
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Here lies my problem coach. Some coaches preach "scholarship" and a naive parent equals that to a full ride. That's on me, but it's how some minds work. So you get to the place your kid is a Jr and you find out those don;t come around often. You get a reality check about Cali schools as well. You see opportunities in humid and hot places or cold and freezing places around the country, but that's hard sell for some Cali girls who like the beach. My research tells me many Cali girls get home sick and transfer or quit as Fr ((not all)). I know one girl who took a full ride on the East Coast instead of 25% on the West Coast. Parents have bank, but the girl wanted to get away and go to college. Fast forward to Fall practice and she's calling dad crying because her pigtails are frozen and she can't hang at practice and wants to come home. That is a true story coach. Or, how about___________________________________________________________________________________Not all the stories are good coach. That's why the recruiting stopped for 7th graders and now they can;t talk until Jr year :)
 
Soccer43 said:
I thought you said your grandmother was a slave - how did you jump to England?
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One was and the other wasn’t. I have a grandmother that was a slave in the US. My grandparents from the Bahamas were part of the first settlers to the new world and were never slaves. I think my grandpa was one of the first with Royal blood to openly have “jungle fever.” My family donated materials to build Harvard University and the pineapples to start the industry in Hawaii. James Thompson aka Guinea Jim (nigger loving Jim) was one of the original Scottish planters to arrive in the new world and is my legitimate grandpa.
 
Ellejustus said:
Here lies my problem coach. Some coaches preach "scholarship" and a naive parent equals that to a full ride. That's on me, but it's how some minds work. So you get to the place your kid is a Jr and you find out those don;t come around often. You get a reality check about Cali schools as well. You see opportunities in humid and hot places or cold and freezing places around the country, but that's hard sell for some Cali girls who like the beach. My research tells me many Cali girls get home sick and transfer or quit as Fr ((not all)). I know one girl who took a full ride on the East Coast instead of 25% on the West Coast. Parents have bank, but the girl wanted to get away and go to college. Fast forward to Fall practice and she's calling dad crying because her pigtails are frozen and she can't hang at practice and wants to come home. That is a true story coach. Or, how about___________________________________________________________________________________Not all the stories are good coach. That's why the recruiting stopped for 7th graders and now they can;t talk until Jr year :)
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apples and oranges... you were talking about people sponsoring "GOAT"s and how you change the subject. My point is if you are sponsored by a private alumni group you are now in debt to someone.
You are changing the subject. No club coach worth anything preaches full ride.

End of Sophomore year because you are not a junior until you step foot on the hs campus or pass your sophomore year.
 
vegasguy said:
apples and oranges... you were talking about people sponsoring "GOAT"s and how you change the subject. My point is if you are sponsored by a private alumni group you are now in debt to someone.
You are changing the subject. No club coach worth anything preaches full ride.

End of Sophomore year because you are not a junior until you step foot on the hs campus or pass your sophomore year.
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I was sold Oranges and Apples, but they had worms in them. They don;t say, "come to me and I will get you a full ride." They say, "come to me and I will get you a scholarship. I am talking about sponsoring a goat or a player that is in the actual plans of the coaches stargedy to win. The sponsor get's to come to the games and their dd get;s to go to the school. That is it. Were not talking about the Runin Rebels bro. I liked Tark because he saw all the BS going on and took care of his players, like any good coach would back in those days. Everyone won back then :)
 
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