Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

timmyh said:
You think Solar/Sting, Concord, and Louden aren't kicking their chops at the prospect of the dozens of YNT level players at Tophat, FC Dallas, and FC Virginia who are suddenly nervous about an uncertain future?

There are zero soccer reasons to exclude Tophat and FCD from a league that purports to be the best-of-the-best. There are, however, $pecific ve$ted inter$t$ who have lot$ of non-$occer rea$on$ to exclude them. Same thing that is happening to Beach and Legends.
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IDK but my kids club peeled Pareja from FCD before he was fired and went to Orlando. Pareja is known for ability to work with young players...do you think it’s possible FCD is in a downward spiral after Pareja left?
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
There's literally no other country in the World so vested in creating leagues and clubs to help develop kids who aren't good enough to go pro! Can you imagine any clubs in the rest of the World that are worth their salt touting "We've got kids going to College" Lol. People come on here like they're deciding the future of the game for the rest of the World. Soccer in the US is small potatoes and the USSF and equally at the youth level have been publicly "found out" 10 years too late. Come on people we can do better. Put your kids with the best coaches and lets stop this nonsense
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Most people on this site have already found a good coach and good teammates.

The question is whether we let those teams play each other, or we tear apart those teams in a big shuffle.

In a shuffle, the ECNL teams get torn apart, too. Every DA player who switches is an ECNL player who gets cut.

I dont know why any parent would think it is a good idea to let the clubs control this. They clearly do not share our interests.
 
Kicker4Life said:
You should see the frenzy in SoCal.
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And this is why any new national league of ex-DA clubs is unlikely to flourish without it being something special like being fully funded. These clubs that once were "top 40" are conceivably just a few weeks from no longer having their top players wearing their badge anymore.

US Soccer completely hosed their DA clubs by not negotiating a soft landing for them inside ECNL prior to folding up shop. What probably would have been an easy negotiation two months ago became impossible when they instead blindsided their membership and booted everyone. Pathetic and they should be ashamed.
 
Copa9 said:
Then why does TAD recruit players who have already committed to college? Haha
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Tad wants to win. So Copa, how many 16 to 17 years olds quit soccer every year? I'm sure Tad had players that quit or didn;t want to put in the Ganas to be the best, so he's always recruiting the best. He's only had 7 teams bro in 40 years. Look at their website and you will see Coach Tad in a pic with his former players. You have no idea what you're talking about. https://www.scblues.com/scblues

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Sunil Illuminati said:
There's literally no other country in the World so vested in creating leagues and clubs to help develop kids who aren't good enough to go pro! Can you imagine any clubs in the rest of the World that are worth their salt touting "We've got kids going to College" Lol. People come on here like they're deciding the future of the game for the rest of the World. Soccer in the US is small potatoes and the USSF and equally at the youth level have been publicly "found out" 10 years too late. Come on people we can do better. Put your kids with the best coaches and lets stop this nonsense
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Yep. The funnel narrows a lot earlier in Mexico. For the 2008 birth year, this spring was their final opportunity to make the Fuerzas Basicas Academy beginning the upcoming fall. So the funnel narrows substantially at 12. And if these kids haven’t signed a pro contract by 16-17, they’re dropped from the academy. Can’t squeeze blood from a turnip.
 
GeekKid said:
Never really thought about it that way...interesting.
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If all of the good players from the excluded clubs end up at other clubs that are in the "club", then is anybody hurt? the good coaches and players will land on their feet. less $$ for those running certain non profits.
 
MacDre said:
Based on my limited interactions with D1 coaches, I think it would be more beneficial for a “NEXT” level athlete to play multiple sports and develop athleticism in preparation for the college game. College soccer is not very technical and is very physical. Save the ECNL money and take a family trip. Your kid will be better off for it.
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My kid played DPL and Part Times DA the last 3 years. It was a good way for her to train with the best but get a lot of play time on the DPL team. She is headed next fall to play D3 at a decent school and we could not be happier. She is a very smart kid and we feel fortunate she gets to play for the next four years at a very good academic institution. We knew she never would be a NWT player or most likely D1. She plays for the I’ve of the game and I look forward to watching her play the next 4 years
 
Thank GOD. Finally, US soccer got some common sense. You need to look at other countries and see how those countries do it. They don’t have a million clubs ripping off the people. TheY only have professional clubs offering spots to the best players. Those professional clubs like LAFC and L A Galaxy send scouts to different venues and league games to search for talent.
This is how they recruit.
 
Ellejustus said:
Tad wants to win. So Copa, how many 16 to 17 years olds quit soccer every year? I'm sure Tad had players that quit or didn;t want to put in the Ganas to be the best, so he's always recruiting the best. He's only had 7 teams bro in 40 years. Look at their website and you will see Coach Tad in a pic with his former players. You have no idea what you're talking about. https://www.scblues.com/scblues

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Why did you leave Blues last year?
 
VegasParent said:
Damn, he's 6'3" now? I remember when he used to run around and play with the kids on your u8 girls team and he was not much taller than them and he was a couple of years older. Is he close to making a decision on where he wants to commit?
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Yep crazy. He is 16 now. A bit taller than me and out 2inches more on his reach. He had a rough patch early this year but finished really strong before all this.

He has had some great conversations and one that is in his top 3 for sure. He has a good relationship with one of the coaches and a great program in what he wants to study with intern opportunities to major companies. He has had other great conversations with schools in the midwest and back east last week. I wish we knew more but this has put a hold on act and sat. So we wait a bit. He handles it well. We were supposed to be in MI at a camp and South Carolina showcase this week which a few schools were going to come watch. We will see what happens this summer.
I see your daughters picture everywhere. Makes me smile every time. She kills it playing up too from some of the things in have seen.
 
MacDre said:
Who cares? You make arbitrary points that have little to no significance. Again, these athletes didn’t “peak” in HS or college but they aren’t late bloomers.
I believe all kids should have an opportunity to play the sports they love at an appropriate level. I just find it sad that many parents are given false hope under the late bloomer theory.
As a kid, I would wanted to be a professional football player. ALL of my friends were successful because they had the genes to play football. I failed because I was too skinny.
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Define late bloomer. Give examples.. did you get the definition from the documentary .
Late Bloomers in my mind are those that may be smaller, less athletic, less skilled or late growth spurt and became something special later in their teens. Take Shaq for example. Although a physical specimen was uncoordinated, no balance and could not hit a layup his freshman year of high school. Passed over and over until his senior year. You call it peaked because you want to be right. You are saying it is genes.. really... Steve Kerr.. his dad was a diplomat... did he have basketball genes.. Jason Williams had genes.. admit drive is a part...nifty it was Genes than MJ s son would be a pro... Dwayne Wade would not complain that his son did not get his due time his senior year.. Shawn Bradley had genes... how did that work out
 
Joe Diaz said:
Thank GOD. Finally, US soccer got some common sense. You need to look at other countries and see how those countries do it. They don’t have a million clubs ripping off the people. TheY only have professional clubs offering spots to the best players. Those professional clubs like LAFC and L A Galaxy send scouts to different venues and league games to search for talent.
This is how they recruit.
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Read up on the English system before you praise it too highly. They have had some scandals a lot worse than mediocre futbol.
 
Ellejustus said:
Are you seriously asking me that question or is that RQ?
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It is somewhat rhetorical. You are a large proponent of the Club I don’t understand why you would make a change. And although you’ve likely told us before, I don’t recall why. I’m not picking a fight or being sarcastic (for once).
 
VegasParent said:
This is the same situation with my kids team. We added 2 players this past season after we got DA and the team will stay together with the coaches. As for the rest of the club, a few may look to leave but we don't have the options available in Vegas like SoCal.
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Here is the thing.. you went with a coach not a patch.. the patch was a bonus... unfortunately it was start and stop situation but the coach remains and that is all that matters for your DD. She will succeed no matter what league.
 
Kicker4Life said:
It is somewhat rhetorical. You are a large proponent of the Club I don’t understand why you would make a change. And although you’ve likely told us before, I don’t recall why. I’m not picking a fight or being sarcastic (for once).
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Well, Outlaw will get mad at me and ETOL will bitch slap me for leaving Tad in the first place. He thinks I went for the free handout by parents like Maps at Surf. The better question Kicker is, why I did I go back to Blues and what was my motive? If Outlaw says it's ok to share one last time, I will share why we came back and why we hoped away again and why we almost quit club altogether. I was 100% out btw back in early 2019.
 
vegasguy said:
Define late bloomer. Give examples.. did you get the definition from the documentary .
Late Bloomers in my mind are those that may be smaller, less athletic, less skilled or late growth spurt and became something special later in their teens. Take Shaq for example. Although a physical specimen was uncoordinated, no balance and could not hit a layup his freshman year of high school. Passed over and over until his senior year. You call it peaked because you want to be right. You are saying it is genes.. really... Steve Kerr.. his dad was a diplomat... did he have basketball genes.. Jason Williams had genes.. admit drive is a part...nifty it was Genes than MJ s son would be a pro... Dwayne Wade would not complain that his son did not get his due time his senior year.. Shawn Bradley had genes... how did that work out
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Valid points. I guess my definition of late bloomer would be a lot more narrow than yours. I think any athlete that could make an “old school” competitive freshman, jv, or varsity HS team is a solid athlete. A late bloomer would be a kid that couldn’t make the freshman team freshman year but was starting varsity their senior year. I think your definition is too broad because it could include anyone that shows improvement as a late bloomer.

Also genes are only part of the equation. You also need desire and the right environment. I think it’s rare to have all three.
 
The Outlaw said:
Wasn't Brady drafted by MLB as a catcher out of high school? And back then, was Michigan not an elite football program?
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I don't know about baseball and Brady but did he bench his whole college career behind players not in the league until his senior year. If Peyton Manning starts 4yrs of college or John Elway is a starter out of high school and Brady isn't what does that say..
 
This is a late volleyball bloomer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Fortune

Scott could not play volleyball worth beans as a freshman or sophomore in HS. I mean, I was way better skills wise. I could set really well, dig and serve. Scott had long arms and he could block ok, but his timing to spike was way off and we laughed at him. He was my teammate in hoops. He dreamed of playing on the Olympic team one day. However, that was for hoops and we all laughed at him. Next thing I know, he got a full ride to Stanford in Volleyball and I watched him play on TV for the USA in Volleyball and win gold. I was so happy for him and even told my wife how wrong I was about Bones :)
 
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