Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Only way that happens is if the parents don’t have enough faith in the Coaching staff at DA Clubs who have to swallow the bitter pill and play ECRL to prove their way up like Pats chose to do.

These times will show who really believes in “Follow the Coach, not the League”........
@Kicker I think this is a great theory that is not going to work in the current political climate of girls youth soccer. I think your kid is at risk of falling out of favor if she doesn’t switch to a team in a more competitive league. I think clubs like Beach are going to experience “brain drain” as their best players move to the most competitive league to maintain form and remain in favor with USSF which will make it almost impossible to get promoted.
 
I'll add to clarify... The FC Dallas boys will be fine and will probably remain the top boys club in the country.

And while the girls may end up just fine, too, there appears to be a concerted effort by others to not make it so.

I have heard from that several factors are working against FCd Getting back into ECNL possibly the biggest one is apparently the suit against ECNL last summer didn’t sit well.
 
It snowed here over night (shoot me) so i decided to look into this a bit deeper. Only 17 of the top 75 clubs on the Soccer Wire top 100 list are former DA teams who have not yet gotten into ECNL. Most of them have a pretty influential ECNL neighbor.

Former DA Club ECNL competitor

Top Hat Concord Fire
FC Dallas Solar/Sting/DKSC
Legends Arsenal
Beach Slammers/Blues/Strikers
Earth Quakes MVLA
FC Virginia Louden
NEFC FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA Ohio Elite
Lonestar Sting Austin
LA Galaxy Slammers/Blues/Strikers
SS Select Scorpions SC
Nationals Michigan Hawks
Albion SD Surf
Galaxy SD SD Surf
Reign Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash Albion Hurricanes
 
Well, I matter what, your still a bit disillusioned. You insinuated that I said Kids we’re leaving. I just said its a feeding frenzy. You can figure out who the predators are who sniff wounded bait. You keep trying to insult me that I chose US Soccer and I insult ECNL. The “monopoly” was the DOC’s in SoCal (you repeatedly say are corrupt) keeping Clubs out bc of the fertile recruiting grounds. Not ECNL as and organization. I have always chosen the Coach over the League or level of play and it’s worked out pretty well for both my DD’s.

Stop trying to spin the facts.

We can both agree that a singular league with Promotion/Relegation is good for Soccer.

You keep throwing some threat of head to head competition at me like i should be concerned. Is it intentional or am I misreading you?
Thanks for calling me delusional again. Plus you said your life is better than mine too, lets not forget that elitist comment.....lol!! I spin facts? That is so funny :) :) :) You have been baiting me bro ever since I started posting here last July and I played your dumb game with your buddy Lastman. I told you 100% about the dangers of the "Jim Jones Express Boat Ride" you and the most of us were all on. I just got off earlier and by choice I might add. I want the best teams & players to play Kicker and so does my dd. For example, I asked her this question the other day. "Hey sweetie, would you rather win a CIF Soccer Championship but most of the top players can't play because of the GDA rules or would you rather lose in the 1st round of CIF because every kid that was top top player for their HS Schools played too? Guess which one she picked Kicker? I never said all Docs are corrupt either or all coaches. I always trying to say, "Doc and coaches in club soccer seem to be snakes ((not all)). I also know you are the wisest dad on here. Always picking the right coach and Doc. You should write a book to teach all the younger parents how to pick the right coach. I will give you that. I picked wrong many times my friend. My dd, she has been spot on with her insights 90% of the time and her decisions have been way better than mine. Lastly, you and Lastman have no idea my competitive make up. You guys keep taking my fun "head to head" challenges as a threat. Bro, you could kick my ass Kicker and I'm sure Lastman can too. It's a friendly competition and you and Lastman are misreading me. I did want to see the non GDA all star 04 team play against this years U16 GNT goat team. Again, I want to see how my dd compares against Americas top 16 year olds. That was just fantasy bro, I promise and I don;t see that match up ever happening. Look, I swear to you when I went to Main Beach in 1983 to play pick up ball one day, I challenged Kevin Mcgee ((UCI Center that was stud)) to one on one. He laughed at me. I pestered that dude all morning and said things like, "I know I can beat you." "You can;t make a shot passed 10 ft." "I'll even let you camp in the paint for 5 seconds." and stuff like that. Guess what Kicker, he finally had enough of my sh*t and played me one on one. He won 10-2. I was up 2-0 and talking so much crap that he got the next 10 on me. Its all fun bro. Please, don;t take me so serious. I will share more about why we left Coach Rogers and why we almost quit club and just focused with HS Soccer. You get free soccer with an excellent coach. Pre-season in the fall, games in the winter and track in the Spring. No travel either. What makes you think I will pay all this money with another year of division? Right now, I am 50/50. That be the truth. Bro, HS Soccer looks like the place to be imo. Go back and read my posts.
 
It snowed here over night (shoot me) so i decided to look into this a bit deeper. Only 17 of the top 75 clubs on the Soccer Wire top 100 list are former DA teams who have not yet gotten into ECNL. Most of them have a pretty influential ECNL neighbor.

Former DA Club ECNL competitor

Top Hat Concord Fire
FC Dallas Solar/Sting/DKSC
Legends Arsenal
Beach Slammers/Blues/Strikers
Earth Quakes MVLA
FC Virginia Louden
NEFC FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA Ohio Elite
Lonestar Sting Austin
LA Galaxy Slammers/Blues/Strikers
SS Select Scorpions SC
Nationals Michigan Hawks
Albion SD Surf
Galaxy SD SD Surf
Reign Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash Albion Hurricanes
Keep in mine too that these rankings will look different for 2020-2021
 
It snowed here over night (shoot me) so i decided to look into this a bit deeper. Only 17 of the top 75 clubs on the Soccer Wire top 100 list are former DA teams who have not yet gotten into ECNL. Most of them have a pretty influential ECNL neighbor.

Former DA Club ECNL competitor

Top Hat Concord Fire
FC Dallas Solar/Sting/DKSC
Legends Arsenal
Beach Slammers/Blues/Strikers
Earth Quakes MVLA
FC Virginia Louden
NEFC FC Stars of MA
Sporting BV KC Athletics
Cincinnati DA Ohio Elite
Lonestar Sting Austin
LA Galaxy Slammers/Blues/Strikers
SS Select Scorpions SC
Nationals Michigan Hawks
Albion SD Surf
Galaxy SD SD Surf
Reign Crossfire Premiere
Houston Dash Albion Hurricanes
If you go back and review what that small cadre of clubs (all ECNL board member clubs) did during the inaugural year, joining GDA and then pulling out after year one, gave themselves two ECNL teams per age group... that looked premeditated and straight gangster. Lavers is a very polished front man, but his lieutenants are nasty and don't give AF. I could be completely wrong, but I'm guessing none of the teams listed above get in.

I wonder if it would work to let everyone on this list and more in, shrink the geography of divisions, and make invitations to showcases based on team (not club) performance. That would eliminate the phony excuse of "our league already has 110 clubs, we can't run efficient showcases if we add clubs". Almost like Pro/Rel but in terms of what most parents value most, the showcases. That might ramp up meaningfulness of games.
 
read my post....disillusioned does not mean delusional.

As for my elitist comment....you are right, that was rude. It should have read, “social life” not “life” but wrong none the less...I apologize
Whatever Kicker. Life is not fare and everyone has been hurt now in life & soccer. I see us as all equal. No one better than the other human wise. I'm glad you feel have a better social life and lot's of dear friends in life. It looks like no winners in all this division. The timing by US Soccer to dump their sh*t on us during a time of fear was weak sauce. Something's not right Kicker. I wish and hope the powers in soccer can work together but that won;t happen. Lavers is now a gangster.
 
If you go back and review what that small cadre of clubs (all ECNL board member clubs) did during the inaugural year, joining GDA and then pulling out after year one, gave themselves two ECNL teams per age group... that looked premeditated and straight gangster. Lavers is a very polished front man, but his lieutenants are nasty and don't give AF. I could be completely wrong, but I'm guessing none of the teams listed above get in.

I wonder if it would work to let everyone on this list and more in, shrink the geography of divisions, and make invitations to showcases based on team (not club) performance. That would eliminate the phony excuse of "our league already has 110 clubs, we can't run efficient showcases if we add clubs". Almost like Pro/Rel but in terms of what most parents value most, the showcases. That might ramp up meaningfulness of games.

Yeah, all the big players (and two teams clubs) are on that list, FC Stars, Crossfire, Michigan Hawks, Slammers, Concorde.

Only ones missing are PDA & Eclipse and they both have their markets locked down.
 
I will say right now ECNL is a great option if you want to play against "most" of the top teams. I don;t hear about them closing their doors either because of Corona. What was that Kicker from USSF? Did your doc not see all this coming? Did Beach apply to girls ECNL last year?
 
@Kicker I think this is a great theory that is not going to work in the current political climate of girls youth soccer. I think your kid is at risk of falling out of favor if she doesn’t switch to a team in a more competitive league. I think clubs like Beach are going to experience “brain drain” as their best players move to the most competitive league to maintain form and remain in favor with USSF which will make it almost impossible to get promoted.
I know, but don’t think Clubs like Beach didn’t already experience that for years prior to DA. I am hoping parents see the long game (overly optimistic, I know). Next year is on the rocks anyway. Likely no real National Showcases and USSF shuttered the YNT program at every age not in a WC Cycle (No Coach, no budget, no scout to stay in favor with). I already know a lot former DA Clubs have lost top talent and I am sure Beach will too.

The decisions the Clubs have to make are double edged swords and neither lends itself to retaining talent.
 
I know, but don’t think Clubs like Beach didn’t already experience that for years prior to DA. I am hoping parents see the long game (overly optimistic, I know). Next year is on the rocks anyway. Likely no real National Showcases and USSF shuttered the YNT program at every age not in a WC Cycle (No Coach, no budget, no scout to stay in favor with). I already know a lot former DA Clubs have lost top talent and I am sure Beach will too.

The decisions the Clubs have to make are double edged swords and neither lends itself to retaining talent.
Crazy. I don’t see the need for all the panic amongst parents because girls can always find good competition locally by playing boys teams.
 
I will say right now ECNL is a great option if you want to play against "most" of the top teams. I don;t hear about them closing their doors either because of Corona. What was that Kicker from USSF? Did your doc not see all this coming? Did Beach apply to girls ECNL last year?
As stated before, I have heard from people in the room that beach has been trying to leave DA for a few years. Yet, at the same time, they are recruiting kids telling them that they have to be in a DA club to have any chance for future success. The DA rules and fiscal commitment were just becoming too much. I guess it is a total coincidence that the Blues just moved into Long Beach the very year the DA ended!
 
Crazy. I don’t see the need for all the panic amongst parents because girls can always find good competition locally by playing boys teams.
As kids get older, boys teams don’t want to play girls. Boys parents don’t want girls practicing with them. We have a local girl on a boys DA academy team. The team entered a Futsal tournament and at the door she was told she couldn’t play. No mixed gender teams in the tournament allowed. Every time my dd practices with the boys I openly hear the comments about how the boys won’t play hard against her. It’s not easy for girls to hop in with boys.
 
As stated before, I have heard from people in the room that beach has been trying to leave DA for a few years. Yet, at the same time, they are recruiting kids telling them that they have to be in a DA club to have any chance for future success. The DA rules and fiscal commitment were just becoming too much. I guess it is a total coincidence that the Blues just moved into Long Beach the very year the DA ended!

Come on man, Blues taking over sum little affiliate teams is abt $ only. Blues had no idea this was coming and dont need much more talent than what the combined ECNL - GDA teams are going to provide. 2 teams in to 1 already
 
Come on man, Blues taking over sum little affiliate teams is abt $ only. Blues had no idea this was coming and dont need much more talent than what the combined ECNL - GDA teams are going to provide. 2 teams in to 1 already
Agreed, it was a joke throw in. But I doubt it helps beach get in having blues directly competing with them along with slammers (not to mention that Liverpool is really trying to break into the market too).
 
As stated before, I have heard from people in the room that beach has been trying to leave DA for a few years. Yet, at the same time, they are recruiting kids telling them that they have to be in a DA club to have any chance for future success. The DA rules and fiscal commitment were just becoming too much. I guess it is a total coincidence that the Blues just moved into Long Beach the very year the DA ended!
I keep hearing that too. Let me ask you Poker god, do you think if Beach went to Lavers last June and said, "We want to be all in ECNL and play soccer monopoly with you and the other gangsters" that ECNL would have welcomed them to the ecnl family? Blues were in the idea position because of their brand and success. GDA tried to destroy Tad's top team before age change and then through all this BS, he still has #1 team in the country. Blues had both only because they won championships, period.
 
I keep hearing that too. Let me ask you Poker god, do you think if Beach went to Lavers last June and said, "We want to be all in ECNL and play soccer monopoly with you and the other gangsters" that ECNL would have welcomed them back to the ecnl family? Blues were in the idea position because of their brand and success. GDA tried to destroy Tad's top team before age change and then through all this BS, he still has #1 team in the country. Blues had both only because they won championships, period.
No idea. They tried to get in for a few years. But I think your question is flawed. One gangster went to another gangster to get away from another gangster. WHEN A CRIME IS COMMITTED IN HELL THERE ARE NO ANGELS AS WITNESSES.
 
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