Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

eastbaysoccer said:
Very true. Plus if your dd is going to major in education of sociology, Sdsu really makes more sense. Save the extra money for grad school. Or get your phd at Stanford on tuition waiver and stipend.
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Or major in business. Their marketing program is awesome. My brother graduated from their environmental engineering program and he raves about it. Personally I would rather go to SDSU or UCSB than many of the options in the south or midwest but that is a choice that all players and their families must make. No choice is perfect for everyone. I know that I told my player to pick a school that she would want to go to if soccer ended tomorrow. So far so good.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
My dd received a set athletic scholarship. The school is allowing her to combine academic also which could mean 100% coverage.

From what I understand, if u get fafsa that cuts into your athletic. I agree, the amount of athletic scholarship will Likely be proportional to how much the coach Values u. A 50% from a school that offers 14 scholarships IMO is lesser than school that offers 50% that only has 7 scholarships to give. The latter really wants u. The former has at least 27 more girls they can give .5 to.
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It's not that black and white though. A 100% ride at Podunk U with no academic accolades vs 50% at top 100 nationally ranked university is apples and oranges. It all depends on what the player and family values more and their financials.

I knew of a family that didn't care what school their DD committed too as long as it was a full ride. I personally would educate my DD to accept a 50% scholarship offer at CAL vs a 100% scholarship offer at Wyoming St.
 
offthecrossbar said:
It's not that black and white though. A 100% ride at Podunk U with no academic accolades vs 50% at top 100 nationally ranked university is apples and oranges. It all depends on what the player and family values more and their financials.

I knew of a family that didn't care what school their DD committed too as long as it was a full ride. I personally would educate my DD to accept a 50% scholarship offer at CAL vs a 100% scholarship offer at Wyoming St.
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A very focused kid would score just as high on the MCAT if she went to Wyoming or CAL. But in the end at Wyoming she would have a 4.0 gpa an have played in every game in her 4 year career. In the end sh goes to med school and has no debt.

I hear what u are saying though. If your kid has no idea what she wants to do got to the best school you can get accepted to.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Or major in business. Their marketing program is awesome. My brother graduated from their environmental engineering program and he raves about it. Personally I would rather go to SDSU or UCSB than many of the options in the south or midwest but that is a choice that all players and their families must make. No choice is perfect for everyone. I know that I told my player to pick a school that she would want to go to if soccer ended tomorrow. So far so good.
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It all depeneds. If the school is guaranteeing money take it and run provided the school has a good academic program ( tier 1 as per US News). If he soccer programs falls of the map, transfer ;).
 
In response to an email from my daughter, a Div 1 school she was checking out explained that they were bound by NCAA rules to not communicate directly with her until the spring of her Junior year (she's a frosh). I had a college basketball coach friend of mine confirm that rule, but he did say that the contact rules are more relaxed for D2&3, and nonexistent for NAIA. My question: for the kids who have verbally committed to D1 schools as frosh or soph, how do they know the school they are committing to is interested if the coaches can't recruit them yet? Is it back channel evasion of NCAA rules or are the players making the verbal commitment with the hope that there will be interest and a place? Thanks.
 
Mystery Train said:
In response to an email from my daughter, a Div 1 school she was checking out explained that they were bound by NCAA rules to not communicate directly with her until the spring of her Junior year (she's a frosh). I had a college basketball coach friend of mine confirm that rule, but he did say that the contact rules are more relaxed for D2&3, and nonexistent for NAIA. My question: for the kids who have verbally committed to D1 schools as frosh or soph, how do they know the school they are committing to is interested if the coaches can't recruit them yet? Is it back channel evasion of NCAA rules or are the players making the verbal commitment with the hope that there will be interest and a place? Thanks.
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Third parties are ok.
Usually her club coach, if you trust him or her.
Also, your kid can contact them by phone at a certain age, (I forget) as long as they pick up when she calls.
Have her call and leave a message saying when she will call back.
If she calls back, and they answer, theyre interested.
 
Mystery Train said:
In response to an email from my daughter, a Div 1 school she was checking out explained that they were bound by NCAA rules to not communicate directly with her until the spring of her Junior year (she's a frosh). I had a college basketball coach friend of mine confirm that rule, but he did say that the contact rules are more relaxed for D2&3, and nonexistent for NAIA. My question: for the kids who have verbally committed to D1 schools as frosh or soph, how do they know the school they are committing to is interested if the coaches can't recruit them yet? Is it back channel evasion of NCAA rules or are the players making the verbal commitment with the hope that there will be interest and a place? Thanks.
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The coaches cannot approach a young prospect, but they can answer any questions when asked directly, such as face-to-face and on the phone. At a tournament in Las Vegas, I got bold enough to hand out brochures to the obvious coaches - they wanted to know right up front which ones were old enough so they could talk to them. At the same tournament were some coaches from NAIA schools. They were not bound by NCAA recruiting rules so they were making direct pitches to every player they liked and even joked about their advantage over the NCAA coaches.

I recall a local college coach who used to come watch our high school games when my son was sophomore. I knew him from club soccer business, so I sat next to him once and asked him if he needed any information about our players. His only answer was a cryptic "I already know which player I am interested in". Next year his school made my son an offer.

Another odd NCAA situation - our club board tried once to get a group discount for our players to a local college's games. The college responded that they would let them in free as a group, but only if they were all under a cutoff age (13, I think) so they couldn't be accused of illegal recruiting.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Third parties are ok.
Usually her club coach, if you trust him or her.
Also, your kid can contact them by phone at a certain age, (I forget) as long as they pick up when she calls.
Have her call and leave a message saying when she will call back.
If she calls back, and they answer, theyre interested.
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Bernie is correct, a player can contact the college coaches directly. The college coaches can't return the call, if they are a HS Freshmen or Sophomore though.

Your DD can also send an email when she plans to call, besides leaving a voice message. If the player also has the coaches cell phone (meaning they are very interested). She can send a text and say what time your DD will be calling. They just can't reply to the text.

BTW, there is a fairly new rule. College coaches can text players directly their Junior year.
 
Mystery Train said:
In response to an email from my daughter, a Div 1 school she was checking out explained that they were bound by NCAA rules to not communicate directly with her until the spring of her Junior year (she's a frosh). I had a college basketball coach friend of mine confirm that rule, but he did say that the contact rules are more relaxed for D2&3, and nonexistent for NAIA. My question: for the kids who have verbally committed to D1 schools as frosh or soph, how do they know the school they are committing to is interested if the coaches can't recruit them yet? Is it back channel evasion of NCAA rules or are the players making the verbal commitment with the hope that there will be interest and a place? Thanks.
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As Bernie and NoGoal said. Contact is initiated usually through the club coach (our experience). He calls us and says they want you to call at such and such time. You call, they answer and they converse. Fast forward weeks, months or years depending upon the timeline of initial contact. Offer is either extended on unofficial campus visit or following visit and/or camp. That is a compressed timeline and if you want more specifics about our situation then PM me.

Disclaimer: This is the general framework. Individual recruiting experiences may vary based upon the player.
 
MT, another way to keep your player in front of college coaches is to attend the Legends College ID camp. It is designed for individuals to showcase their talents and skills to bunch of college coaches in interactive, small group sessions. I have attached a link that lists the college programs that will be in attendance, and your DD could send an email to the programs that she has interest. It is a great way for the coaches to evaluate your player, and for her to evaluate those coaches. (Since they are running the drills.)
http://www.legendsfc.net/programs/college-id-camps/
 
If a coach want u he/she will invite you to camp and for an unofficial visit. Coaches already have eyes on certain players. If u are not one of them it's not worth attending.

If you are not in the WNT pool or a minimum ODP state team / pdp ecnl /ID2 it's a upward climb.
 
CaliKlines said:
MT, another way to keep your player in front of college coaches is to attend the Legends College ID camp. It is designed for individuals to showcase their talents and skills to bunch of college coaches in interactive, small group sessions. I have attached a link that lists the college programs that will be in attendance, and your DD could send an email to the programs that she has interest. It is a great way for the coaches to evaluate your player, and for her to evaluate those coaches. (Since they are running the drills.)
http://www.legendsfc.net/programs/college-id-camps/
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Yeah all of the top players attend the Legends Showcase in order to get recruited. Oops sorry, I must have stroked out for a second. Only posers or Legends players attend this showcase.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Only posers or Legends players attend this showcase.
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Seriously, did someone pee in your Wheaties? This event is helpful to players who are unsure about their future collegiate plans, and would like the opportunity to run thru drills designed and implemented by a wide variety of college coaches. Mystery Train seems to be looking for advice to help his DD advance her early college aspirations. This event is sold out EVERY year by players from Legends, and many other terrific clubs such as Arsenal, Pats, Blues, West Coast, Beach, Real So Cal, CZ Elite, Fram, Slammers and others. It has proven very helpful to many players over the 4 years that it has been around, and I know that it was exceedingly helpful in getting my DD committed to a great school and a tremendous soccer program. Just thought I would share the advice...didn't mean to make you feel so threatened.
 
have to agree with cali...my daughter went with 2 teammates last year and i saw backpacks from a bunch of other clubs. btw, my kid isn't a poser, and it's kinda disrespectful for you to say that. she was nervous last year, but is going back with more confidence this time.
 
I think MAP is just having fun yanking Cali's chain. I don't have a dog in the Legends vs everyone else brawl. We've actually did the camp last year as a U14 just to give her some experience in that kind of setting. She had a great time and it didn't cost much at all. I understand that these coaches aren't attending with the hopes of getting new kids on their radar, but she would do it again because it was a positive experience, and she learned a lot from the coaches who were there.
 
Mystery Train said:
I think MAP is just having fun yanking Cali's chain. I don't have a dog in the Legends vs everyone else brawl. We've actually did the camp last year as a U14 just to give her some experience in that kind of setting. She had a great time and it didn't cost much at all. I understand that these coaches aren't attending with the hopes of getting new kids on their radar, but she would do it again because it was a positive experience, and she learned a lot from the coaches who were there.
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Bingo. I like Cali's spunk. This is all fun for me. My player is through the process and in college. I just like to poke a little fun and stir the pot. There are only a few posters who's kids I have seen play and all of them are pretty awesome.
 
RiverRat said:
have to agree with cali...my daughter went with 2 teammates last year and i saw backpacks from a bunch of other clubs. btw, my kid isn't a poser, and it's kinda disrespectful for you to say that. she was nervous last year, but is going back with more confidence this time.
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I apologize. I was just having a little fun stirring the pot. I wouldn't know if your kid was a poser or not. I haven't seen her play. I just like to mess with rah rah types like Cali.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I apologize. I was just having a little fun stirring the pot. I wouldn't know if your kid was a poser or not. I haven't seen her play. I just like to mess with rah rah types like Cali.
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Definelty been a min or two since cali last waived his Pom-Poms.

Sorta miss it:)
 
CaliKlines said:
MT, another way to keep your player in front of college coaches is to attend the Legends College ID camp. It is designed for individuals to showcase their talents and skills to bunch of college coaches in interactive, small group sessions. I have attached a link that lists the college programs that will be in attendance, and your DD could send an email to the programs that she has interest. It is a great way for the coaches to evaluate your player, and for her to evaluate those coaches. (Since they are running the drills.)
http://www.legendsfc.net/programs/college-id-camps/
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What's the deal with CIF rules and attending these kind of camps during HS season?
 
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