ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

Fact said:
Sitting at the airport waiting for a flight so I have time to kill on your nonsense.

You seriously have no idea who you are talking to in this post, do you? If anyone got screwed by DA it was this family, but you see they have nothing but class, unlike you.

If you want to rant, go ahead but don’t try to bait others into joining you. I already told you that if you had a problem with private schools allowing DA players to play HS, do something about it.
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You keep jumping in Fact Checker. Get on your plane, grab a drink and get some sleep and just relax.
 
Justus said:
Carlos the Columbian. However, I bet if you ask Trump he would demand that ALL peoples from everywhere that are citizens of the USA, Black and White, Latino and Asian, poor and rich, smart and dumb, HS Soccer and no HS Soccer, Private school kids and Public school kids, kids from Alabama and New York, kids from OH and OR, kids from East LA and Beverly Hills. Kids from San Ysidro and Rancho Santa Fe. Kids from Hollywood and Inglewood, kids from La Jolla and South Central, Kids from Vegas Albion and Vegas Heat, Kids from Strikers ECNL and San Jose Earthquakes, kids from Legends and Rebels...…….. ALL the kids from this great country need to be afforded equal access opportunities to anything called, "United States Youth National Team".....IMHO.
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Keeping Up With The @Jones, I see clearly how fall a part we are in this debate. How we view America might be a little different, and that's ok too. I love America's wonderful opportunities for ALL of us to get a chance. Your screen logo for one is a trigger for me, SC is the other trigger, and you seem like the one on the opposite side of the debate because everyone of my takes on this issue are dumb in your opinion. Can you please at least comment and share to all of us why dumb? I'm going to say TGIF and most likely call it a weekend and let everyone get ready for their games this weekend. My goat has a break in soccer but will be playing on the B Team with her schoolmates in Volleyball tourney. She wants to win that one too. All the top VB HS in the state. Again, she could go to the A Team and watch from the sidelines and root her friends on and maybe get in for a few plays when were up 20-3 or down 4-20 or hope her friend gets hurt so she get in the game that way. I will confess, when I was a sophomore and had to fight to start on varsity team, I hoped that other guy sprained his ankle all the time (no ACL, only to the other teams star) so I could save us from the ass whooping we were receiving in playing in the South Coast League. Truth be told, it didn't matter who started, we were going to lose in that league. Boy, times have changed now in OC with all the Divisions. We only had four and my little hs with 500 kids played against HS with over 4,000. We didn't wine (drank some) back then because we didn't know any better. We went out and tried to pull off the upset. Regardless how one enters a game or never does, is not my point. The point is you need to know where you stand on the picking order and want you want. I know what you want Jones. Some it's the A team and some it's for the B team. Or, if you might be a little faster or taller (very helpful in big time HS volleyball, packed house too, with all their friends and family from the community watching) you go for the higher calling that comes inside one's little heart. So, you choose Mr Jones :)
 
VegasParent said:
Actually several 07 and 08 players moved over to Albion from Heat if those are considered "baby goats". One 06 player came over and is probably the only 06 Heat player that would make the 06 Albion team. It's debatable which 04 and 03 team is the best between Heat and LVSA.
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Did those players get anything to make the jump from the #1 team, the Heat? Playing time issues at Heat and the 25% sounded appealing? CM? Were they the true top GOAT players at Heat and just wanted to graze over their for the heck of it and just because...…..? 12 and 13 is the ripe old age to truly know who the top GOATs are. If it's private info and no one is sharing that stuff except on their public website you don't need to share your full ride will all of us if you don't want too.
 
Walid Khoury, the director of Southern California's Slammers FC, for whom Press played seven years, said, “I’m shocked that the federation never let us know about this.”

Really Walid, you're truly shocked? How could the Federation slip up a small thing like that. I'm still trying to figure out who else besides the obvious got waivers to play HS Soccer last year and why? I would also like to know why no 04's outside the Girls DA made The List and to me, seem to only make it when they were at the right club during "Full Ride Month." Just think how much $$$ that little Santa Monica club gave up. Or, what about the club that raised and nourished the baby goat until she was 12 and then the wolf comes to snatch it up in the dark when no one is looking. Although the small club truly developed the baby goat, the big club seems to be getting all the credit and most importantly in this dads opinion, all the bonus $$$$ that seems others are getting. Last and final question for me personally. Why are there no Latinos not named Landon on the 59 Member US Youth National Task Force? Once I get my questions answered Walid, I will try and find out why you didn't get paid for making CP the stud she is today. Right now, we need everyone speaking up so I'm glad your here for the ride. We can all form a line on Monday at the US Training Center in San Diego with all of our different questions and concerns we all seem to have.
 
RJonesUSC said:
Finally found the ignore button. Let's hope this works for email notifications as well.
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Thank you for joining the conversation. With all do respect, let's be nice to one another. I think we all want equal access for all, right? I'm heading to the beach because the waves are good, sun is out and no one is wearing a wetsuit. So I will dream again about being a pro surfer and soon realize that shipped sailed a long time ago but I will still dream it :) I'm not ignoring you if I don't respond.
 
Justus said:
You know what @shales1002, I'm starting to smell something bad out in Vegas and how it all went down. The President asked the US Soccer Federation to find the nations best 04 goats in the WHOLE country. The best way to do that IMO is to get the scouts to each state and check out the baby goats and let them play and battle it out openly, in front of the scouts. It seems like the DA had a different game plan behind closed doors with all the adults? DA gets all the applications from Vegas clubs and sets up the interviews. The Top club jumps to the front of line and where I come from, they usually get first choice of whatever they want. However, A smart club (girls first) look at what the choices are first b4 jumping into something because some clubs and coaches care about the girls first, not their pocket book. The interview goes like this to get them to follow their religion/pholosphy. "Kneel and Kiss the Ring or Else! We all have choices to make, some choose to drive 800 miles for one game, some choose to fly to FL and look for Hugs from Bush people, so choose wisely and do as I say and all will go with YOU and Your club." If wise DOC says, "get lost" they will go behind your back and try to send in their WOLF/Recruiter to try and knock off one baby goat at a time with the hope of finding a naïve parent from, lets say a team like the Heat FC. Some naïve parents are struggling to put food on the table and maybe all expense paid everything and all the access could be a little tempting for some. I know I play around sometimes, but seriously @shales1002, is their anyone on that team that can at least give those the U16 DA YNT girls a challenge or are all the top goats at Vegas Albion?
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@Justus it's pretty common knowledge that Heat's 04 keeper is the YNT pool. She has been to at minimum 4 camps and is #14 on TDS. It's easy to sort the info by club. They don't have camps/call ups quite as often since the Concaaf roster issue. Again, not sure why you think the top players are at Vegas Albion. As previously mentioned, for Vegas demographics, the top players are at Heat for ECNL or LVSA for National League. Albion has a solid 06 and 08 team.
 
Justus said:
Did those players get anything to make the jump from the #1 team, the Heat? Playing time issues at Heat and the 25% sounded appealing? CM? Were they the true top GOAT players at Heat and just wanted to graze over their for the heck of it and just because...…..? 12 and 13 is the ripe old age to truly know who the top GOATs are. If it's private info and no one is sharing that stuff except on their public website you don't need to share your full ride will all of us if you don't want too.
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You really seem to enjoy just making things up to fit your opinion. I think everyone gets it that you are extremely (borderline psychotically) bitter towards the DA because of what YOU feel are wrongs suffered by you and your kid. To answer your questions (again) the 07's that came BACK to Albion did so because they were unhappy with the coach they followed over to Heat. I didn't press them for specifics. Again, there is no 25% at 07. Several were starters. Maybe winning at all cost and being the #1 team didn't matter to them. I've seen posters on this board advise that the most important thing is to find the best coach possible for you kid and not chase wins. Whatever the reason, they chose to come to Albion. Others chose to stay with Heat. Freedom of choice. It's a great thing.
 
Nothing like a front row seat at a therapy session...unfortunately, all too often therapy sessions play out on sidelines as well.
 
shales1002 said:
@Justus it's pretty common knowledge that Heat's 04 keeper is the YNT pool. She has been to at minimum 4 camps and is #14 on TDS. It's easy to sort the info by club. They don't have camps/call ups quite as often since the Concaaf roster issue. Again, not sure why you think the top players are at Vegas Albion. As previously mentioned, for Vegas demographics, the top players are at Heat for ECNL or LVSA for National League. Albion has a solid 06 and 08 team.
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@shales1002 The DA has Ensured us all that they will provide the most competitive games in Americana and that includes Vegas. You can't claim "most competitive games" if you don't have all the top GOATs can you? Very bad for marketing. I have no reason to not believe them just as I know they got that list right the first time two years ago. Plus, some say I have no clue what's going outside of Cali. I know they must have swiped a few of the YTN goats over to Albion and just holding them off. Trust me, when the first U14 List came out their were some serious baby goats, still in diapers. 25% still in 6th grade. These scouts I tell you know how to pick them when their really, really young. I wonder if all those goats were raised by the club their at right now? Did they just join because they want to...….. and the other clubs like Walids don't get no reward money. So until I see a match up head to head I have to give #1 to Albion Vegas today. Yesterday is was Heat, but after the breaking news that came out everyday, Vegas Albion is #1. When $$$$$ is missing, it usually went somewhere and we just don't know yet. I have a few ideas where most of it is but I'll let others solve the puzzle.
 
VegasParent said:
You really seem to enjoy just making things up to fit your opinion. I think everyone gets it that you are extremely (borderline psychotically) bitter towards the DA because of what YOU feel are wrongs suffered by you and your kid. To answer your questions (again) the 07's that came BACK to Albion did so because they were unhappy with the coach they followed over to Heat. I didn't press them for specifics. Again, there is no 25% at 07. Several were starters. Maybe winning at all cost and being the #1 team didn't matter to them. I've seen posters on this board advise that the most important thing is to find the best coach possible for you kid and not chase wins. Whatever the reason, they chose to come to Albion. Others chose to stay with Heat. Freedom of choice. It's a great thing.
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I understand your point of view Parent from Vegas. Things are much different for parents in SoCal. It's YNT and stay on the team and get called back all the time or else. And being on the #1 team in the country if you can that too. Very hard to do now days. Sorry, that's why I joined up 9 years ago. I have 3 years left and looking to add to this debate. That's all, nothing else I promise.
 
Youth National Team - A supposed path to the National Team. In fact, college career/professional career matter more for making the NT.
 
outside! said:
Youth National Team - A supposed path to the National Team. In fact, college career/professional career matter more for making the NT.
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Small group of goats might have another path too after all the news that is coming out one day at time. Jump path to Europe and play professionally and have design school paid for and kick it at beaches in France on true off days.
 
Justus said:
I understand your point of view Parent from Vegas. Things are much different for parents in SoCal. It's YNT and stay on the team and get called back all the time or else. And being on the #1 team in the country if you can that too. Very hard to do now days. Sorry, that's why I joined up 9 years ago. I have 3 years left and looking to add to this debate. That's all, nothing else I promise.
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In this post you're basically saying that the YNT only chooses DA players, and if a player is non-DA they have no shot at the YNT. Earlier you were claiming that the Quakes 04 team has all of the best players in Northern California and is the top 04 team in Northern California because they have the most YNT players, while the Northern California 04 team that beat them head to head in every single tournament game they ever played, and finished in 1st place above them in every league competition before the Quakes became DA, has to prove they're better on the field.

Man, your schizophrenic arguments are making my head spin. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
 
wc_baller said:
In this post you're basically saying that the YNT only chooses DA players, and if a player is non-DA they have no shot at the YNT. Earlier you were claiming that the Quakes 04 team has all of the best players in Northern California and is the top 04 team in Northern California because they have the most YNT players, while the Northern California 04 team that beat them head to head in every single tournament game they ever played, and finished in 1st place above them in every league competition before the Quakes became DA, has to prove they're better on the field.

Man, your schizophrenic arguments are making my head spin. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Let me explain something to you Mr Baller (just playing I promise), yes I'm basically telling you if your not in the DA your dd is on the B team in NoCal. If one of your kids can make the next list that comes out, I will personally donate $250 to any youth sports team of your choosing not named Quakes. The only YNT List I'm referring is for 04s only to be clear. I don't know about the 05s or 03s or the National Team List and I frankly don't care. Only OH FOUR, that's it. They were 11,12 and 13 back when it all started as baby goats, now some are 14 and 15. Head to head does not count anymore and all contest and scores don't count before 2018. ODP was head to head. Quakes for example: Top 4 GOATs + All 4 YNT Members +All 4 UCLA= The best team ever assembled hands down except the Surf 04' team before DA because we always beat them too just like your saying. I never heard of your team. The only team I ever heard of was De Anza. I think we beat you guys anyways down here in a tournament. Did you ever lose to a SoCal team Baller with your dd squad? I honestly can't be 100% sure but I do remember we beat every NoCal team we played in the old days. The top players were always there too so no excuses please. Surf goats were not allowed to play up so our squad was 100% there ready to ball. Ever hear of our coach back then? Look him up some day. It was "Dear In Headlight Moment" for those Quakes. Before De Anza and your other goat teams that formed after the big shake up, it was the Surf GOATs 04' team and we spanked everyone. Does it really matter now days how a GOAT team is actually formed anyways and by whom and for what? Freedom. What I'm saying is, "we were before you were." Is that cocky? I hate all NoCal Sports Teams but I don't hate you or anyone up there personally. I'm a sports junkie, that's it. And based on your name you seem to like balling too. No one could touch us before the great philosophy, trust me :). The team she was on before that was even better if you could believe that. State Cup Champs baby!!!! Fact already told everyone what happen and is still pissed off about it. Reap what you sow some say and we sowed a National Championship and that's one accomplishment no one can take from her or all her teammates. Last SoCal championship for our age group too. Quakes got DA u15 this year. Did you guys get anything? I honestly don't know.
 
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