What happened to THE Luis Andres thread?

The Outlaw said:
It doesn't matter how they play at U9... because 2 years from now you'll be somewhere else and so will half that team. Well, maybe not. They may stay to avoid running into you at tryouts elsewhere. Others here have probably forgotten they made some of the same mistakes you're making, Luis, myself included, but heed their advice anyway. They know it's a marathon.

Your kid may suck in 2 years. It happens. And lots of badass 12-year olds no longer play at 14 because their dad was named "Luis".
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Chalklines said:
But at this age you need to find the right fit. Coaches change, ass hole parental units like Luis show up and you need to due what's best for yours sometimes moving around can't be avoided.
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I agree with this. It would be easier if coaches were honest and up front about what they were planning and expectations during tryouts, but they a) may not even know yet as early as tryouts since they are still feeling the team out, b) might just be concerned with fielding a team particularly if they are an indie club like the one in OP or the second/third tier of a larger club, or c) might be trying to recruit the player so will say anything. My son's second year I got the big push about development and building from the back and I specifically told the coach one of the reasons we were moving was I wanted a place that built from the back and let my son take his goalkicks (I only have two redlines...that and allowing private training outside the club)...in virtually every tournament or big game the big legged defender was instructed to "send it"...and in virtually every tryout we went to we were told by coaches "yeah we build from the back" yet everywhere I go on a tournament field coaches are "sending it". I'm not so sure it would have gone really great had Luis' coach sat down the parents and told them: look we are going to lose a bunch of tournaments and we probably won't win our bracket and don't be surprised if you see some of those more advanced kids not starting or sitting on the bench...if the player works hard, I intend to give every player playing time and I want to encourage my players to make mistakes out there and learn something from those mistakes even if it costs us games. Sometimes you don't know until the August tournament season starts, and by then the roster freeze has kicked in and many of the clubs are full.
 
I can't piece together all the timeline since Luis deleted his postings, but to sum it up:
-Dominic "innocently" created a "Who is top 10" thread in the G2011 forum.
-As expected, the G2011 parents started debating which 7-year-old team is the best and throwing insults at each other.
-Poor Luis couldn't resist joining the conversations even though he is not even a G2011 parent.
-The Luis Andres character came fully alive on socalsoccer.com.
-Site traffic at socalsoccer.com went up by 400% as members hung up to Luis' every posting in anticipation of the inevitable and tragic end.

Nicely done, admin.
 
Messi>CR7 said:
I can't piece together all the timeline since Luis deleted his postings, but to sum it up:
-Dominic "innocently" created a "Who is top 10" thread in the G2011 forum.
-As expected, the G2011 parents started debating which 7-year-old team is the best and throwing insults at each other.
-Poor Luis couldn't resist joining the conversations even though he is not even a G2011 parent.
-The Luis Andres character came fully alive on socalsoccer.com.
-Site traffic at socalsoccer.com went up by 400% as members hung up to Luis' every posting in anticipation of the inevitable and tragic end.
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you forgot...

-postmortem done by person with too much idle time
 
Anon9 said:
I agree. I stopped checking it every 5 minutes. We need the old Luis Andres back!
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I learned my lesson, never to talk about anyone else’s DD but my own. I learned that winning tournaments at young ages is not what’s important. What’s important is the development of my own DD. As far as what I do to train her. I’m still sticking to my guns on that. I’ve done a great job so far in making her a solid all around player. She’s fine for now where she is at, development wise. As long as she keeps growing every season and stays at a level that I feel she needs to be at, I’m happy.
 
Luis Andres said:
As long as she ......... stays at a level that I feel she needs to be at, I’m happy.
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Wow this says it all. This is not about your dd it is about you. I really don’t care how you mess up your own kid but make sure you leave all the other families alone, there is a reason they kicked you off the team chat and don’t like you.
 
Luis Andres said:
I learned my lesson, never to talk about anyone else’s DD but my own. I learned that winning tournaments at young ages is not what’s important. What’s important is the development of my own DD. As far as what I do to train her. I’m still sticking to my guns on that. I’ve done a great job so far in making her a solid all around player. She’s fine for now where she is at, development wise. As long as she keeps growing every season and stays at a level that I feel she needs to be at, I’m happy.
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You forgot the single most important thing, which is “As long as SHE is happy, loves the game, and wants to continue playing.”

But hey....
 
Luis Andres said:
I was referring to my expectations.
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You are still doing it: "my expectations", not hers. Let me ask you this: why is it so important for you to have her become an elite player? And yes...I know she has potential...in the video you shared she's a great soccer player for her age (again, though, tempered with she's 8). You also said she was really great in math...why don't you have her in Kumon or Chinese Learning Center 5 days a week...or in cycling for that matter....why football?

Also how's the AYSO team going...you start practice?
 
Luis Andres said:
I learned my lesson, never to talk about anyone else’s DD but my own. I learned that winning tournaments at young ages is not what’s important. What’s important is the development of my own DD. As far as what I do to train her. I’m still sticking to my guns on that. I’ve done a great job so far in making her a solid all around player. She’s fine for now where she is at, development wise. As long as she keeps growing every season and stays at a level that I feel she needs to be at, I’m happy.
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Be yourself and don't change for these people! I know you're trying to be humble...stop it
 
Grace T. said:
You are still doing it: "my expectations", not hers. Let me ask you this: why is it so important for you to have her become an elite player? And yes...I know she has potential...in the video you shared she's a great soccer player for her age (again, though, tempered with she's 8). You also said she was really great in math...why don't you have her in Kumon or Chinese Learning Center 5 days a week...or in cycling for that matter....why football?

Also how's the AYSO team going...you start practice?
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Great question. I guess it has to do with the fact that soccer has been my favorite team sport since I was a kid. And its part of my culture. Also she is my only child so I have all the time in the world to devote to her in a sport and my wife and I decided it would be soccer even though she is a runner. We also play basketball recreationally but not serious in trying to make her an elite basketball player because she will never have the height to compete at an elite level where soccer that is not a requirement.

The reason why it’s important for me to have her become an elite player is because I see the potential for greatness within her natural talents. And I’m setting her up technically to be at a level that when it comes time for her to do things on her own, she will have the proper skills set to do so and shine. At the end of the day it will be up to her to get to the next level not me. All I can do now is set her up in the right direction with the proper skills set.

As far as AYSO. Things are going good. She’s sort of like my assistant coach. My goal for AYSO is to teach her some leadership skills.
 
Luis Andres said:
At the end of the day it will be up to her to get to the next level not me. .
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But that's the kicker, isn't it? You'd want for her not only have the skills to get to the next level, but also the motivation. If you overtrain her, and she is suffering injuries (which become much more frequent as girl's near puberty), she might not want to (because she doesn't feel good). If you give her soccer all the time, even if she loves it, she might grow sick of it if she has to do it every day (hey I love pizza but I once went a week during the bar exam just eating pizza and I can tell you I hated pizza afterwards for a good year and still can't look at a Hawaiian pizza). If you push her, she may rebel against it just to spite you when she hits the rebellious years, because YOU want it and that's how she can hurt you.

We all want our children to hit their potential. But ultimately things are their choice. You not only want to foster her skills, but also her love of the game, and that means being careful not to give her too much of it. You should also let her explore other options because just since you want her to do soccer doesn't mean she'll want to.

And if you really want to coach her and don't trust her coaches (with the disclaimer that for most people I don't think coaching their own kid is the best idea, YMMV), you might want to consider getting yourself a United coach slot and coaching herself (even though she'll be at a lower level team possibly, at least you won't be undermining what the coach is trying to teach). BTW, what is your playing and coaching background?
 
Grace T. said:
But that's the kicker, isn't it? You'd want for her not only have the skills to get to the next level, but also the motivation. If you overtrain her, and she is suffering injuries (which become much more frequent as girl's near puberty), she might not want to (because she doesn't feel good). If you give her soccer all the time, even if she loves it, she might grow sick of it if she has to do it every day (hey I love pizza but I once went a week during the bar exam just eating pizza and I can tell you I hated pizza afterwards for a good year and still can't look at a Hawaiian pizza). If you push her, she may rebel against it just to spite you when she hits the rebellious years, because YOU want it and that's how she can hurt you.

We all want our children to hit their potential. But ultimately things are their choice. You not only want to foster her skills, but also her love of the game, and that means being careful not to give her too much of it. You should also let her explore other options because just since you want her to do soccer doesn't mean she'll want to.

And if you really want to coach her and don't trust her coaches (with the disclaimer that for most people I don't think coaching their own kid is the best idea, YMMV), you might want to consider getting yourself a United coach slot and coaching herself (even though she'll be at a lower level team possibly, at least you won't be undermining what the coach is trying to teach). BTW, what is your playing and coaching background?
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No I totally understand you when it comes to the possibility of burning her out. I always ask her how she feels before and she’s the one that picks up the ball at home to challenge me to 1v1 games. So as long as she’s the one initiating to play soccer, I’m all for it. It’s not like we just do soccer all the time either. She has a life, she has play dates with her friends. She gets to play her favorite game Roblox with her friends and use her iPad too. In the beginning she was doing gymnastics and swimming but she decided to drop them to focus more on soccer. Her choice not mine.

Also I’m not trying to coach her and create a club team around her either. She has a private coach who is an ex pro player who trains her weekly. The AYSO thing for me is just fun and like I mention perfect for her to learn some leadership skills and show other little girls starting out how to play. To be honest I’ve played recreational soccer all my youth. Pickup games, park games, neighborhood games, never club. I’ve watched a lot of soccer and I’m knowledgeable as far as the sport. I have siblings and my Father worked a lot so he never had the time to train me like I’m doing with my daughter. I guess you can say I wish he had done the things with me that I’m now doing with my daughter.
 
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