National Cup Boys 1999 Round of 16 tainted.

Last time I looked Pulisic is a single player, not an entire team. Apples and oranges.


Pulisic, Haji Wright, Weston McKennie, Nick Taitague, and about another 4 or 5 going over this year. Josh Sargent is going thi year and I cannot recall the lesser known players.
 
I say we ban David Parsio from blogging when he is raging :) TBH, even if FCGS would be bringing kids from Brazil, it's not easy to get visas every year for new players. He couldnt do it every year because eventually he will get investigated by the US Govt. Also, how does he make money if he has to take care of them when they arrive? Does he own a hotel and pays for food and boarding? I mean, the kids have to be really really good for somebody to go out of their way to pick up all the expenses. I would love to hear someone from FCGS give their insight into this story.
I have heard from folks at FCGS that he pays for everyone on the elite team. He brings these players from Brazil and houses them at his mansion. All expenses paid. Just what we have heard
 
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I have heard from folks at FCGS that he pays for everyone on the elite team. He brings these players from Brazil and houses them at his mansion. All expenses paid. Just what we have heard

Good for him. The US Government operates approximately 800 military bases abroad, plus who knows how many foreign schools for children of diplomats, expats, business people and other Americans. American kids have been proudly beating the crap out of foreign kids in their own youth basketball and baseball leagues for almost 70 years, which no one seems to mind. But one lower level group of 18 year old Brazilians brings their futbol here and we act like it’s an existential threat to the American way of life and assume they’re illegal aliens and cheaters.
 
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Good for him. The US Government operates approximately 800 military bases abroad, plus who knows how many foreign schools for children of diplomats, expats, business people and other Americans. American kids have been proudly beating the crap out of foreign kids in their own youth basketball and baseball leagues for almost 70 years, which no one seems to mind. But one lower level group of 18 year old Brazilians brings their futbol here and we act like it’s an existential threat to the American way of life and assume they’re illegal aliens and cheaters.
Completely agree with you. Not saying what he is doing is wrong just replying to the question asked. Don't shoot the messenger. I think if he is bring them here to better their life, great job for giving them the opportunity to get a decent education and bettering the lives of them and their families
 
Yes, it is normal practice for wild card teams to get moved around if a match up from bracket play ends up the same. It happened last year in National Cup on the girls side. My daughters team ended up as the first wild card and the second wild card matched up against the same bracket team. The schedule went back and forth a few time with our game be changed and the 3rd WC team being changed. It ended up with the 2nd and 3rd WC teams changing opponents. It was a small club that was changed, so it has nothing to do with money and they do it all the time.

However, if you want to talk corrupt because of the AS situation and other things, I could buy into that, but switching WC teams is not corruption as it has been done before.
 
Is it weird or coincidence that the link for CalSouth's 1999 boys NC schedules and results isn't working? All the other age groups work, but this one has been returning a "502 server" error all day...hmm
 
I happened to see this team play both Sat and Sun and as an observer can give you my 2 cents....
This FCGS team is very good and play great soccer
They are 150% Brazilian
They do look older, but so what? At 18yo any player should able to play with men.

I think it's great to play a team like this. Soltilo game was a great game to watch with plenty of goals and good soccer. Parents complained more than players, but this is to be expected. Galaxy game was not as good, but Galaxy didn't convert chances they had and that made a difference.
Even though this FCGS team is good, I don't think they will win it all. Strikers will give them run for their money and if they happen to beat Strikers, WC or Fullerton will be another challenge, as both of those team filled with College players.
 
CoachSamy As a HS teacher I am far from prejudice or maybe I am against people who act stupid but last time I looked at the Far West Regional logo it said in white highlight in red background “US Youth Soccer” Last time I looked at the National Championship logo it said the same thing “US Youth Soccer”. When looking at the Dallas Cup I see that it says nothing about US it says “Welcome Word”. I think you have completely missed the point but that’s ok some of my students do that every day in my classroom.
But so you know, I did root for Golden State at Dallas Cup. I was glad they won it. No prejudice what so ever! I am actually very disappointed that our CalSouth representative for the “US Youth Soccer” Far West Regionals could actually be a mispresesnted non US Youth team. That’s all I’m saying my friend but I’m sure you will figure something wrong with it. Have fun dwelling over it.

Take that @coachsamy. I might add that the last time I looked at the American Airlines logo, it was also red, white and blue. These foreigners need to stay off our national airline for Americans only and just fly Southwest, which quite clearly uses brown and yellow logo colors for a reason. These foreigners can all also starve to death because the largest food distributor here in ‘merica quite clearly says US Foods. And stay out of our buildings made with US Steel. You also don’t see any foreigners in the National Basketball Association, do you? And do you know why they check your citizenship status every time you use Federal Express? Foreigners should know they can only use UPS, with its brown logo and all.

The law is quite clear that a company should exclude any non-citizen so long as it puts the right patriotic label in its name and its logo is red, white and blue. Duh.

God help our students.
 
You know nothing of me to say people that have my thinking. You may love success stories but you seem to not recognize that even in success, there are differences. As you've noted before in a different context, life isn't fair. Its just certain.

As for your last comment, not sure what you mean by 8 years but if you mean that parents didn't do their job to raise kids, then who's fault is that? As for the metaphor, luckily I don't know any kids like that myself, including mine in college. It just plays off of stereotype from likes of Fast Time at Ridgemont High.... Nothing to do with the reality and is insulting to parallel these young student athletes to that.
I don't know nothing about you other what you post! You clearly said that not all kids are great students, which to me means that if a kid doesn't do good in school is automatically not a great student.

I'm referring of the past administration in the last 8 years in which people's feelings got weaker and the sense of entitlement that people have generated without earning anything.

According to the OP this was such a life changing event to which the metaphor sadly has certain correlation to it. If a parent is resolving all the issues of a High School student is the biggest disservice the parent can do for them in life. Is the OP going to his son college to protest that his son scholarship got cut because x y or z. Is the OP going to throw another tantrum because the NCAA D2 made a change in the brackets of their tournament?? These are not Ulittles and shouldn't be treated as such either.
 
CoachSamy As a HS teacher I am far from prejudice or maybe I am against people who act stupid but last time I looked at the Far West Regional logo it said in white highlight in red background “US Youth Soccer” Last time I looked at the National Championship logo it said the same thing “US Youth Soccer”. When looking at the Dallas Cup I see that it says nothing about US it says “Welcome Word”. I think you have completely missed the point but that’s ok some of my students do that every day in my classroom.
But so you know, I did root for Golden State at Dallas Cup. I was glad they won it. No prejudice what so ever! I am actually very disappointed that our CalSouth representative for the “US Youth Soccer” Far West Regionals could actually be a mispresesnted non US Youth team. That’s all I’m saying my friend but I’m sure you will figure something wrong with it. Have fun dwelling over it.
Your own contradiction proves my point.

That you are a HS teacher doesn't mean anything whether or not you are prejudist. I'd met prejudist people in the military, law enforcement and many other places where they shouldn't be but they are and sadly in the case of law enforcement gives them a bad name.

Stop giving so much emphasis to this recreational tournament and advocate for high school athletics gain their place again.
 
Last time I looked Pulisic is a single player, not an entire team. Apples and oranges.
Point is that 18 years are NOT Ulittles and they can play against older competition without any disadvantage. There are 1999 kids playing in MLS and many other leagues around the world.
 
I happened to see this team play both Sat and Sun and as an observer can give you my 2 cents....
This FCGS team is very good and play great soccer
They are 150% Brazilian
They do look older, but so what? At 18yo any player should able to play with men.

I think it's great to play a team like this. Soltilo game was a great game to watch with plenty of goals and good soccer. Parents complained more than players, but this is to be expected. Galaxy game was not as good, but Galaxy didn't convert chances they had and that made a difference.
Even though this FCGS team is good, I don't think they will win it all. Strikers will give them run for their money and if they happen to beat Strikers, WC or Fullerton will be another challenge, as both of those team filled with College players.

"So what"?? Therein lies the problem today. Honesty and integrity are no longer valued. Yes, at 18 players do play against older players and even old men, in college, in pros, semi pros, pick up leagues etc etc etc. That is not the point. If you don't understand then you are part of the problem.
 
Is this issue about the wild card seedings being switched or about players not being within the roster rules?
Has anyone asked the "kids" (who are 18) how they feel about this?
 
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"So what"?? Therein lies the problem today. Honesty and integrity are no longer valued. Yes, at 18 players do play against older players and even old men, in college, in pros, semi pros, pick up leagues etc etc etc. That is not the point. If you don't understand then you are part of the problem.

Sorry, I must of failed to see how playing up or vs older players is ever a problem for a competitive 18 yo.
 
Time to kill this post. It's going nowhere. I could care less of Golden state but if a rich guy is giving a bunch of Brazilian kids a chance then kudos to the guy. There's a great Brazilian movie that gives you an idea of their environment. I think it's called "City of God".
 
Look we got beat by a bunch of Illegally registered players who come to the US for 6 months under the guise of learning English as a 2nd language.

You're all fools if you believe this to be the case, I wish it was..

This will be done every year by FCGS until Cal South stands up to its Core Values of Fair Play and Integrity in administration of its published rules.

I said zero about Brazilians, over age players etc. I still believe that Cal South was threatened, paid off, or support for other Cal South entities was risking withdrawal.

Yes the FCGS owner is a pure piece of dog shat, and proves it every single day. He is bad for US Soccer, detrimental to soccer development in the USA. Money does not entitle privilege or status, but it certainly buys it.

I hope teams follow through with filing appeals and FCGS gets DQ'd or this will never end.

I hope Strikers takes them out of the tournament and you are all there to watch. I will personally video tape this jackass on the pitch, because I have no doubt that if he loses he will assault the referee crew along with his staff. I will then post the link for the morons here to defend.

Thanks to my alter ego for posting some quality comments.
 
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Look we got beat by a bunch of Illegally registered players who come to the US for 6 months under the guise of learning English as a 2nd language.

You're all fools if you believe this to be the case, I wish it was..

This will be done every year by FCGS until Cal South stands up to its Core Values of Fair Play and Integrity in administration of its published rules.

I said zero about Brazilians, over age players etc. I still believe that Cal South was threatened, paid off, or support for other Cal South entities was risking withdrawal.

Yes the FCGS owner is a pure piece of dog shat, and proves it every single day. He is bad for US Soccer, detrimental to soccer development in the USA. Money does not entitle privilege or status, but it certainly buys it.

I hope teams follow through with filing appeals and FCGS gets DQ'd or this will never end.

I hope Strikers takes them out of the tournament and you are all there to watch. I will personally video tape this jackass on the pitch, because I have no doubt that if he loses he will assault the referee crew along with his staff. I will then post the link for the morons here to defend.

Thanks to my alter ego for posting some quality comments.

Let me explain something to you. The California Unruh Act prohibits businesses from discriminating against people based on their citizenship status. If they got across the border and established proof of age, they had every right to beat your kid’s team regardless of whether they learned English to your satisfaction, and regardless of how much it allegedly cost Bob to get them here. CalSouth is never going to stop Bob from helping kids play soccer here because it can’t. And the State of California has decided it shouldn’t.

I have three points in response to your claim that they don’t have appropriate transfer paperwork. First, it looks like this requirement only applies when a player was previously registered to a another club. https://www.ussoccer.com/about/federation-services/intl-clearance/itc-request. If they weren’t previously registered, which most Brazilian kids aren’t, no foreign approval is required. Second, I don’t see any proof they didn’t complete paperwork, and I am certainly not going to take the word of a jilted former FCGS parent. Third, you look like a sore loser regardless because you’re relying on an paperwork violation as an excuse for the fact that your kid’s team wasn’t good enough.

Videotaping someone else’s soccer game because you hope your nemesis will assault a referee also seems like perhaps not the best way to spend the weekend. You should consider doing something nice with your family instead. Maybe a picnic. Maybe watch a City of God. Great movie.
 
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