National Cup Boys 1999 Round of 16 tainted.

Lambchop said:
"So what"?? Therein lies the problem today. Honesty and integrity are no longer valued. Yes, at 18 players do play against older players and even old men, in college, in pros, semi pros, pick up leagues etc etc etc. That is not the point. If you don't understand then you are part of the problem.
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Sorry, I must of failed to see how playing up or vs older players is ever a problem for a competitive 18 yo.
 
Time to kill this post. It's going nowhere. I could care less of Golden state but if a rich guy is giving a bunch of Brazilian kids a chance then kudos to the guy. There's a great Brazilian movie that gives you an idea of their environment. I think it's called "City of God".
 
Look we got beat by a bunch of Illegally registered players who come to the US for 6 months under the guise of learning English as a 2nd language.

You're all fools if you believe this to be the case, I wish it was..

This will be done every year by FCGS until Cal South stands up to its Core Values of Fair Play and Integrity in administration of its published rules.

I said zero about Brazilians, over age players etc. I still believe that Cal South was threatened, paid off, or support for other Cal South entities was risking withdrawal.

Yes the FCGS owner is a pure piece of dog shat, and proves it every single day. He is bad for US Soccer, detrimental to soccer development in the USA. Money does not entitle privilege or status, but it certainly buys it.

I hope teams follow through with filing appeals and FCGS gets DQ'd or this will never end.

I hope Strikers takes them out of the tournament and you are all there to watch. I will personally video tape this jackass on the pitch, because I have no doubt that if he loses he will assault the referee crew along with his staff. I will then post the link for the morons here to defend.

Thanks to my alter ego for posting some quality comments.
 
How some people feel right about now...
 

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David Parsio said:
Look we got beat by a bunch of Illegally registered players who come to the US for 6 months under the guise of learning English as a 2nd language.

You're all fools if you believe this to be the case, I wish it was..

This will be done every year by FCGS until Cal South stands up to its Core Values of Fair Play and Integrity in administration of its published rules.

I said zero about Brazilians, over age players etc. I still believe that Cal South was threatened, paid off, or support for other Cal South entities was risking withdrawal.

Yes the FCGS owner is a pure piece of dog shat, and proves it every single day. He is bad for US Soccer, detrimental to soccer development in the USA. Money does not entitle privilege or status, but it certainly buys it.

I hope teams follow through with filing appeals and FCGS gets DQ'd or this will never end.

I hope Strikers takes them out of the tournament and you are all there to watch. I will personally video tape this jackass on the pitch, because I have no doubt that if he loses he will assault the referee crew along with his staff. I will then post the link for the morons here to defend.

Thanks to my alter ego for posting some quality comments.
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Let me explain something to you. The California Unruh Act prohibits businesses from discriminating against people based on their citizenship status. If they got across the border and established proof of age, they had every right to beat your kid’s team regardless of whether they learned English to your satisfaction, and regardless of how much it allegedly cost Bob to get them here. CalSouth is never going to stop Bob from helping kids play soccer here because it can’t. And the State of California has decided it shouldn’t.

I have three points in response to your claim that they don’t have appropriate transfer paperwork. First, it looks like this requirement only applies when a player was previously registered to a another club. https://www.ussoccer.com/about/federation-services/intl-clearance/itc-request. If they weren’t previously registered, which most Brazilian kids aren’t, no foreign approval is required. Second, I don’t see any proof they didn’t complete paperwork, and I am certainly not going to take the word of a jilted former FCGS parent. Third, you look like a sore loser regardless because you’re relying on an paperwork violation as an excuse for the fact that your kid’s team wasn’t good enough.

Videotaping someone else’s soccer game because you hope your nemesis will assault a referee also seems like perhaps not the best way to spend the weekend. You should consider doing something nice with your family instead. Maybe a picnic. Maybe watch a City of God. Great movie.
 
InTheValley said:
Let me explain something to you. The California Unruh Act prohibits businesses from discriminating against people based on their citizenship status. If they got across the border and established proof of age, they had every right to beat your kid’s team regardless of whether they learned English to your satisfaction, and regardless of how much it allegedly cost Bob to get them here. CalSouth is never going to stop Bob from helping kids play soccer here because it can’t. And the State of California has decided it shouldn’t.

I have three points in response to your claim that they don’t have appropriate transfer paperwork. First, it looks like this requirement only applies when a player was previously registered to a another club. https://www.ussoccer.com/about/federation-services/intl-clearance/itc-request. If they weren’t previously registered, which most Brazilian kids aren’t, no foreign approval is required. Second, I don’t see any proof they didn’t complete paperwork, and I am certainly not going to take the word of a jilted former FCGS parent. Third, you look like a sore loser regardless because you’re relying on an paperwork violation as an excuse for the fact that your kid’s team wasn’t good enough.

Videotaping someone else’s soccer game because you hope your nemesis will assault a referee also seems like perhaps not the best way to spend the weekend. You should consider doing something nice with your family instead. Maybe a picnic. Maybe watch a City of God. Great movie.
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Gran Torino would be another good one to watch.
 
Seems to me if FCGS does all the work to bring in foreign players they would make sure they did the easiest part and file the CalSouth paperwork. Getting Visas, travel documents, getting signed up for school and all the other things it takes to bring someone into the country all take a lot more paperwork than Cal South soccer forms.
 
David Parsio said:
I will personally video tape this jackass on the pitch, because I have no doubt that if he loses he will assault the referee crew along with his staff. I will then post the link for the morons here to defend.
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It's time to move on. Are the boys on the team as angry as you are, or are they glad to get a chance to play against a good team of different style from another country? I'm guessing it's the latter.
 
forsomuch said:
Seems to me if FCGS does all the work to bring in foreign players they would make sure they did the easiest part and file the CalSouth paperwork. Getting Visas, travel documents, getting signed up for school and all the other things it takes to bring someone into the country all take a lot more paperwork than Cal South soccer forms.
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I don’t know who you think you are, but you only get to speculate on this board if you’re proposing a conspiracy theory and accusing people of illegal conduct. What you are saying makes too much sense and is no fun at all.
 
Your interpretation relies on kids never being registered to play in an organized federation in Brazil. Whatever you want to think to prove a point based in a reality you have no expertise with and are only speculating.

I only care about published rules and complying like everyone is required to do and the integrity of the sport I love. Sepp Blater anyone?

Your welcome to do whatever you wish on the weekend. I won't come on a forum and call you out for whatever your passion might be. That would make me as big a d^ck as you.
 
I heard a few of them speaking English last night after training...just sayin'.
And.....wait for it.....DRIVING!!! But then again..maybe that kid was born here and had a legal CDL. :eek:
I will say watching those boys play is pretty awesome..the creativity they show is insane.
 
David Parsio, I actually sent a note to calsouth via their Facebook page to look into the rules and see if fcgs is compliant.

However, every time I want to take your side, you end up posting stupidities that make me want to cringe. Time for you to get out of this blog. Good luck on your next blog. I will avoid it for sure.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
David Parsio, I actually sent a note to calsouth via their Facebook page to look into the rules and see if fcgs is compliant.

However, every time I want to take your side, you end up posting stupidities that make me want to cringe. Time for you to get out of this blog. Good luck on your next blog. I will avoid it for sure.
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While I appreciate your support, do you actually expect an answer?
 
David Parsio said:
Your interpretation relies on kids never being registered to play in an organized federation in Brazil. Whatever you want to think to prove a point based in a reality you have no expertise with and are only speculating.

I only care about published rules and complying like everyone is required to do and the integrity of the sport I love. Sepp Blater anyone?

Your welcome to do whatever you wish on the weekend. I won't come on a forum and call you out for whatever your passion might be. That would make me as big a d^ck as you.
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I’m not sure you understand what the word speculation means.

To help you understand, please identify the Brazilian clubs where each of these players played. Please identify the amount of the bribe, how much it was and who at CalSouth received it. Who was the specific person at CalSouth whom Bob threatened and what exactly did he threaten? Was the threat made in writing, over the phone, or in person? Please produce the paperwork these kids completed so we can verify that they failed to obtain appropriate authorization. Please identify the exact whereabouts of the players at all times they’ve been in the US so that we can verify how long they’ve been here and whether they actually took English lessons or did anything productive besides soccer. Please identify the law that says Brazilians must take English classes if they’re going to come to the US and play in National Cup.

Does this help you understand what speculation is?

Since you called me a d**k, I’ll speculate a little too. I speculate that you’re having a hard time getting your point across because, at base, what makes you angry has nothing to do with whether these kids filled out the right forms. Rather, your anger is grounded in something you don’t want to admit about yourself, which is that you don’t like people here from “lesser” countries, especially if they take something away from your son - even something so inconsequential as a chance to play one or two more games in a lower tier soccer tournament. And you also have serious feelings of inadequacy because you feel like you’ve been bested by someone with whom you had a falling out, and who is apparently far more successful than you. So, instead, you’ve convinced yourself of a bunch of conspiracy theories upon which to rationalize the underlying reasons for your anger. Just speculating. Now you can call me a d**k.
 
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