CSL Reshuffling Exercise

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  1. TangoCity

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    With the new birth year matrix and teams splitting up there was a lot of worry in gaming circuits, especially Coast Soccer League who brackets teams based on merit/promotion. Now that the dust has settled, I've used my G04 rankings to see what level teams deserve to be at. I placed the top 8 ranked CSL teams as Gold teams, the next 14 teams as Silver-Elite teams and then the next 23 teams as Silver teams (same as current CSL distribution). Keep in mind this is nothing more than an exercise just to see how off the bracketing might be. Don't read too much into this. I'm not sure how well this will format here - but here it goes.

    Rank - Team - Should Be - Currently
    7 - LA Galaxy SD Elite - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    9 - IE Surf Premier RB - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    13 - Eagles - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    19 - Fullerton Rangers White - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    31 - NHB FC Black - CSL Gold - CSL Silver South
    32 - Albion SC Academy - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    33 - CCU SoCal Academy - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    35 - Oceanside Breakers Black - CSL Gold - CSL Gold

    36 - IE Surf MB/SB West - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Elite South
    37 - UIFC Venom - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Elite South
    40 - Coachella Valley Desert Storm - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Elite South
    46 - Oxnard United - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Alpha
    47 - Legacy FC Diamond Bar Valdez - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver South
    53 - Santa Monica United - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Elite North
    55 - SC Antelope - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver North
    60 - Simi Valley Eclipse - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Elite North
    62 - Futbol Foundation - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver North
    63 - Albion SC - OC White - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Bronze South
    67 - Kickers - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Alpha
    69 - OC Premier Orange - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Elite South
    70 - IE Surf Lara - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver South
    72 - Claremont Stars Black - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Silver Elite South

    75 - IE Surf West Fraschetti - CSL Silver - CSL Silver Elite South
    77 - BYSC Corona United - CSL Silver - CSL Gold
    82 - South Valley Thunder Villa - CSL Silver - CSL Silver North
    84 - La Mirada FC - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze Central
    86 - Claremont Stars 5 V Two - CSL Silver - CSL Silver Elite South
    90 - Eagles White - CSL Silver - CSL Silver Alpha
    93 - Celtic St. Patrick - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze East
    97 - LA Galaxy CVU - CSL Silver - CSL Silver North
    111 - South Bay United - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze West
    116 - MVSC Legacy - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze South
    117 - Fram Ferren - CSL Silver - CSL Silver Elite North
    120 - Rialto Fire SC - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze Delta
    124 - Apple Valley Storm - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze Delta
    126 - Palm Desert SC - CSL Silver - CSL Silver South
    128 - California Elite - CSL Silver - CSL Silver North
    130 - San Luis Obispo Storm - CSL Silver - CSL Silver Alpha
    131 - Fullerton Rangers Blue - CSL Silver - CSL Silver South
    132 - FC England - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze West
    134 - Pacific SC Los Alamitos - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze South
    135 - FC Long Beach Blue Saldana - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze South
    136 - Hollywood FC - CSL Silver - CSL Silver Elite North
    137 - VFC Strikers - CSL Silver - CSL Silver Alpha
    139 - HDYSL Rage FC - CSL Silver - CSL Bronze Delta

    Notables:
    Greater Long Beach - Mamnoon
    Dropping from Silver Elite North to Bronze

    LA Premier FC
    Dropping from Silver Elite North to a Bronze level.

    Valley United Garcia
    Dropping from Silver North to a weak Bronze level.

    BYSC Corona
    Dropping from Gold to Silver
     
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  2. Frank the Tank

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    I guess BYSC is not worthy
     
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    63 - Albion SC - OC White - CSL Silver Elite - CSL Bronze South

    So they are in Bronze but their ranking puts them at CSL Silver Elite? Correct?
     
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    Yes, but there is a little more uncertainty with teams like them in this ranking system since a large portion of their ranking is beating up on bad teams. But I would bet that they would be a better Silver-Elite team than LA Premier and Greater Long Beach Mamnoon. In reality they probably just belong in Silver now instead of Bronze.
     
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    Fair assessment.
     
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    It almost seems like you should have 4-5 tourneys first, then based on those results you could put teams in to the proper grouping.
     
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    You could probably figure it out with 3 "pre-season" games. Certainly for Bronze teams. My understanding is that all teams need to start in Brozne. You may have a rockstar team that gets put there. And then they mow through everybody. It's almost a waste of a year for them if they don't have any competition. Then they get to Silver / Silver Elite the next year and it takes them a while to adjust to the speed and physicality of the game.
     
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    Might want to give BYSC a few more games, they tied SCA 0-0 this weekend, game was evenly played or may be SCA does not belong in Gold as well.
     
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    I think
    I think BYSC belongs in Gold. They are competing in the games.
     
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  10. TangoCity

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    Maybe. But there are more deserving teams.
     
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    Rumor on the street for next year to really get the shuffle going is that Rangers are moving to SCDSL, I guess parents have had enough of the driving 2 plus hours each way for a 1 hour game.
     
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    Eagles and LAGSD will be in DA. Who knows what CSL will look like. Odds are it won't be very strong.

     
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    Re-seeding teams after a series of qualifying tournaments is a great idea when you have a wholesale remixing of teams like happened this year. The problem would be lack of enough time between the tournaments and league season for the schedulers to do their work.
     
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    Odds are that LAGSD is going to be a weak team. Weak club that had to sell out to get GDA. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
     
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    For these 3 clubs the CSL teams will be the 3rd best team in the club:

    7 - LA Galaxy SD Elite - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    13 - Eagles - CSL Gold - CSL Gold
    32 - Albion SC Academy - CSL Gold - CSL Gold

    Each would have a DA team, DPL team meaning that the 3rd team will be comprised of the CSL team. This is what it looks like:

    http://www.coastsoccer.com/2017/BG13XX.HTM

    it appears that LAGSD, EAGLES and ALBION have pulled their teams from CSL at the G2004 age group.
     
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    Eagles doesn't have a "third" team at G04.
     
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    I am glad you are the expert on this. Maybe you should tell them to give back all of their medals.
     
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    I hope that they remember the medals. If they have parents like you then that probably matters the most. Medals for everyone!
     
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    Oceanside breakers should be #135 not #35.......they just got blown out at sharks.....lost their top 7 players, may get a tie or 2 outta that Gold Group
     
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    Those were last years preseason #'s
     
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