Blues 06 - For those that want to talk about it

ESPNANALYST said:
It's called

It's called the Feb Suprise that certain clubs are famous for. We can't develop our own so what we will be doing is bringing over an entire team from another club and they will play flight one too so by NEXT year the B bros will have their true A team. Suprise!
Expect many many more Feb Suprises across all lovely age groups
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I suppose you can throw shade at the club, but kids and parents buy in too so you've gotta wonder what the clubs that are losing players to Blues are not doing right. If Blues can pull kids from SD and LA, what are the clubs in those areas missing?
 
Sped said:
I suppose you can throw shade at the club, but kids and parents buy in too so you've gotta wonder what the clubs that are losing players to Blues are not doing right. If Blues can pull kids from SD and LA, what are the clubs in those areas missing?
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It's not throwing shade- it's facts.
It's also delusions of grandeur in parents of ten year olds.
TEN YEAR OLDS.
Please tell me you aren't one of those people that think recruiting packages at 10-11 are normal?
 
Sped said:
I suppose you can throw shade at the club, but kids and parents buy in too so you've gotta wonder what the clubs that are losing players to Blues are not doing right. If Blues can pull kids from SD and LA, what are the clubs in those areas missing?
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Only two clubs in SoCal have as robust a record with regards to placing players in college and the YNT. It's as simple as that. If you get enough talent on one team it can make even a bad coach look decent.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
It's not throwing shade- it's facts.
It's also delusions of grandeur in parents of ten year olds.
TEN YEAR OLDS.
Please tell me you aren't one of those people that think recruiting packages at 10-11 are normal?
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What do you mean by recruiting packages?
 
ESPNANALYST said:
It's called

It's called the Feb Suprise that certain clubs are famous for. We can't develop our own so what we will be doing is bringing over an entire team from another club and they will play flight one too so by NEXT year the B bros will have their true A team. Suprise!
Expect many many more Feb Suprises across all lovely age groups
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What age group will they have?
 
ESPNANALYST said:
It's not throwing shade- it's facts.
It's also delusions of grandeur in parents of ten year olds.
TEN YEAR OLDS.
Please tell me you aren't one of those people that think recruiting packages at 10-11 are normal?
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Normal? They're absolutely normal. Are they good? I wouldn't drive my kid an hour each way to play on any team, no matter how good, at age 10, but I don't pretend to know what's good for other families.

That said, you're not answering my simple question - why do clubs consistently lose players even at the early ages to Blues? Why can't clubs in SD and LA keep those kids? You can blame Blues for recruiting, but there's a reason parents pull their kids from other clubs and it doesn't always have to do with winning. What makes Galaxy SD so unattractive to families who live in Encinitas that they're willing to drive 2-3 hours a day to Blues? What makes people in LA drive past North OC clubs to play in South OC with Blues?
 
Sped said:
Normal? They're absolutely normal. Are they good? I wouldn't drive my kid an hour each way to play on any team, no matter how good, at age 10, but I don't pretend to know what's good for other families.

That said, you're not answering my simple question - why do clubs consistently lose players even at the early ages to Blues? Why can't clubs in SD and LA keep those kids? You can blame Blues for recruiting, but there's a reason parents pull their kids from other clubs and it doesn't always have to do with winning. What makes Galaxy SD so unattractive to families who live in Encinitas that they're willing to drive 2-3 hours a day to Blues? What makes people in LA drive past North OC clubs to play in South OC with Blues?
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See post #43 above. I think that it is a opretty cut and dry answer.
 
Sped said:
Normal? They're absolutely normal. Are they good? I wouldn't drive my kid an hour each way to play on any team, no matter how good, at age 10, but I don't pretend to know what's good for other families.

That said, you're not answering my simple question - why do clubs consistently lose players even at the early ages to Blues? Why can't clubs in SD and LA keep those kids? You can blame Blues for recruiting, but there's a reason parents pull their kids from other clubs and it doesn't always have to do with winning. What makes Galaxy SD so unattractive to families who live in Encinitas that they're willing to drive 2-3 hours a day to Blues? What makes people in LA drive past North OC clubs to play in South OC with Blues?
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Used to be Surf was the only game in town for ECNL. No one is driving by Galaxy anymore as a matter of fact no is driving by WCFC anymore. Landscape very different.
05 and 06 aren't ECNL Next year so you have a year for dust to settle to determine movement. I envy that position of being able to sit back and watch.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Used to be Surf was the only game in town for ECNL. No one is driving by Galaxy anymore as a matter of fact no is driving by WCFC anymore. Landscape very different.
05 and 06 aren't ECNL Next year so you have a year for dust to settle to determine movement. I envy that position of being able to sit back and watch.
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I firmly believe that Blues only had this aura due to past performance. As a consumer you looked at past history and determined relevant success.
What befuddles me and always has is why parents cannot seem to understand that they had that success due to a corner of the market stronghold, which is now gone.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Used to be Surf was the only game in town for ECNL. No one is driving by Galaxy anymore as a matter of fact no is driving by WCFC anymore. Landscape very different.
05 and 06 aren't ECNL Next year so you have a year for dust to settle to determine movement. I envy that position of being able to sit back and watch.
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Tell that to the 06 Galaxy player who's bolting for Blues now. Tell that to the many kids who will leave Galaxy for Surf the moment State Cup's over.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
I firmly believe that Blues only had this aura due to past performance. As a consumer you looked at past history and determined relevant success.
What befuddles me and always has is why parents cannot seem to understand that they had that success due to a corner of the market stronghold, which is now gone.
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I hear you but unfortunately we are speculating at this point. We need empirical evidence that something is going to be different. We don't have that yet. GDA hasn't even worked out the details and they are 5 months out from kickoff. I am not convinced that they are going to do anything different other than allow the teams to do what they have always done. Now it seems that the scramble is to hire enough coaches with A and B licenses regardless of their track record with youngers. To me it seems like they are trying to recruit the top players now and figure it out later. Personally if I was the parent of a U13 or under player I would be focusing on the coach and then the club and not some arbitrary award from US soccer. All that seems to be happening anyway is that they are trying to recruit the top talent with offers of free soccer. It may work as an incentive but not sure if it is going to necessarily help improve those players.

Development that stagnates at U13/14 equals a player committing to a program that isn't necessarily right for their ability at 18 or 19 years old. We will see.
 
It is about finding the right fit for your kid. And the grass is always greener somewhere else. I think most parents of a ulittle who has been playing for awhile has a story. Somewhere along the line something (or multiple things) happen(s) that make us sit up and take notice.

I hope, we all want our kids to be happy, to develop, and hopefully thrive with their clubs and teams. Southern California has a lot of choices. Not the worst thing for the consumer (us parents).
 
Sped said:
Tell that to the 06 Galaxy player who's bolting for Blues now. Tell that to the many kids who will leave Galaxy for Surf the moment State Cup's over.
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Good for her hopefully she chose the right team to "run to". There will be a huge difference so buyer beware
 
Sped said:
Normal? They're absolutely normal. Are they good? I wouldn't drive my kid an hour each way to play on any team, no matter how good, at age 10, but I don't pretend to know what's good for other families.

That said, you're not answering my simple question - why do clubs consistently lose players even at the early ages to Blues? Why can't clubs in SD and LA keep those kids? You can blame Blues for recruiting, but there's a reason parents pull their kids from other clubs and it doesn't always have to do with winning. What makes Galaxy SD so unattractive to families who live in Encinitas that they're willing to drive 2-3 hours a day to Blues? What makes people in LA drive past North OC clubs to play in South OC with Blues?
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This is why families commute to SC Blues at Ulittles. Their branding and only Surf and Slammers have a brand that can compete with them. SC Blues coaches for the most part, except the Bakers Bros foster creativity in their players at a young age. If parents haven't seen a SC Blues ulittle training session. It is not regimented unlike other clubs. You will see little girls just playing soccer, they are allowed to dribble out of bounds without instruction on what to do or how to play. They allow the game to teach the players vs being told what to do. I know, because my wife and I was one of those parents who commuted from the IE to the Ranch. I credit Blues (coaches Rob Rennie and Ali Malaekeh) for allowing my DD to be creative, skillful, and technical in games. You see, she was one of the smaller players (still small at 5'2") that use to get pushed off the ball from 8-11 years old. Other club/coaches would tell her to pass it or say she was to small and not strong enough, but Blues allowed her to learn from her mistakes and it has paid dividends for her, since she will play for a Pac12 school this Fall.

I recall 9 years ago a packaged group of 4 young girls who moved to Blues at U10. 3 of the 4 ended up signing National Letter of Intent to play D1 college soccer. I know of another package of 4 at U13 same team. 1 out of 4, ended up signing a National Letter of Intent to play D1 college soccer.....you may have heard of her-Ashley Sanchez. Moving to Blues at such a younger age also, doesn't mean the player will be around come U18...you see Blues retain and cut players at the end of each season.....as the girls get older, there are always better players who want to move to Blues....because, of college exposure. College coaches know So Cal Blues, their club name carriers weight.
 
Again love you but it's a different era.
As far as philosophy perhaps you haven't heard the latest battle cry from the Ranch -BIGGER IS BETTER.
Ashely, KW, TR are the last of a dying breed with all due respect.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Again love you but it's a different era.
As far as philosophy perhaps you haven't heard the latest battle cry from the Ranch -BIGGER IS BETTER.
Ashely, KW, TR are the last of a dying breed with all due respect.
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That has always been their battle cry. However, they have always loved and showcased superior players that are little. Think Anika Rodriguez along with Sanchez and a few others. If a player is a game changer they will find room.
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Again love you but it's a different era.
As far as philosophy perhaps you haven't heard the latest battle cry from the Ranch -BIGGER IS BETTER.
Ashely, KW, TR are the last of a dying breed with all due respect.
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Blues has always been about size, that hasn't changed any...but, they wont' turn away a smaller stud player either.

As a parent, we have to find the right coach that fits our DDs style of play and most important a coach who believes in them. You see my DD played for the Blues B team and didn't play with the A team until U15. Switched clubs from U16-U17 and finishing off her club career at Blues with her old coach. Club soccer is a marathon and not a sprint. The players in my DDs 1998/1999 age group has turned over, many of the girls on the Blues u13 A team are no longer playing soccer or they are with another club. Most of the players currently on the Blues A team came to the club at U15, because of college exposure.
 
Sped said:
Tell that to the 06 Galaxy player who's bolting for Blues now. Tell that to the many kids who will leave Galaxy for Surf the moment State Cup's over.
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Any younger playing on a top team that leaves Carlsbad for another club obviously doesn't have older kids that play and have no idea how DA will change things down the road. ECNL is over and the playing field has changed dramatically overnight. No need to drive 2 hours just to be on a so called super team. Your player will be seen right in your backyard in the years to come. Good luck.
 
Lone Wolf said:
Any younger playing on a top team that leaves Carlsbad for another club obviously doesn't have older kids that play and have no idea how DA will change things down the road. ECNL is over and the playing field has changed dramatically overnight. No need to drive 2 hours just to be on a so called super team. Your player will be seen right in your backyard in the years to come. Good luck.
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Carlsbad will never be Blues or Surf. To think otherwise is pretty optimistic and shows one of two things. Either homerism or that you are a ULittle parent that is feeling their oats because their club got DA, or both.

We will see soon enough what happens. I know my daughter's good friend used to play for Carlsbad but they moved her and her sisters to Surf and they live in Carlsbad.
 
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