Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

watfly said:
Some kids do have access to the school lunch program through our organization, otherwise we're 100% privately funded. I'm not aware of any "illegals" served by our program, but I have a tough time calling any child an illegal. Adults yes, children no.
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I have worked with some friends and orgs to have food delivered from food banks. Kids are kids, they don’t have any say on how they got here. The problem is most of the parents I have spoken to do not have a means to travel to get the meals - and some kids in the care of older children. These kids are also not getting a solid education at the moment. For these individuals (I have only dealt with less than 1% of people in this situation), schools opening are almost life/health saving. Not all kids in this state live in metro areas in walking distance to schools
 
More effective at stopping the virus, limiting the severity of the virus and severely cutting back the number of deaths would be the use of zinc along with a zinc inophore (transportation of zinc to cells). Two of the better working zinc ionophores are Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Quercetin. We know that HCQ usage is being cutoff due to the president having recommended it and using it. Quercetin unlike HCQ is easily available over the counter or off of Amazon or other health websites. Studies trying to claim HCQ does not work have been debunked and found fraudulent. Quercetin is 100% natural and also has other benefits including helping those with sinus and apnea problems.

HCQ + Zinc + Azithromycin (doctor prescription)
or
Quercetin (with Bromelain is preferred) + Zinc + Vitamin C + NAC (Optional)


* - Ask your doctor if you have any questions
 
notintheface said:
I take faith in this:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1287559470453649413

"Covid cases grow exponentially, but resolve in essentially constant time if you can prevent new transmission. You can clear 80,000 cases almost as quickly as 800."

If we can come up with rapid testing that can be done at home, therepeutics, and even a less than perfect vaccine, if we can cut Rt down low enough, we can kill this thing.
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You'd have to get everyone to cooperate with home testing and a vaccine with a really high efficiency (dad and I can argue about the %...haven't had time to do the complicated math yet and it's not my strong suit) and force everyone to take it. COVID is with us for years to come like the flu season. It's not going to be severe as it was but it will be around for years to come. Given that, and given there will likely be "COVID seasons", this plan is a prescription for restrictions FOR YEARS. Notice there is no green zone and the governor himself said we are not returning to normal anytime in the near future.
 
TangoCity said:
More effective at stopping the virus,
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This is FALSE under the metrics. They aren't counting hospitalization (though they will use it as a brake...take the negative, not the positive news). They are only county cases and trasmissions. Theraputics will do nothing to help us in California because even if you have 100,000 asymptomatics and 50,000 common colds but only 100 deaths, it's enough to move you up in restrictions because they only care about case counts and positivity rates.
 
dad4 said:
Every county that makes it to red is going to have a quick trip back to purple as soon as the bar owners realize they can reopen by calling it a restaurant.
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Um no. We have had bars in AZ open now for months. Our rate continues to drop. I get a burger and cocktail all the time at the bars. As do a substantial percentage of us around here. And numbers continue to drop.

If your theory were to be correct...our RT would be going the other direction.
 
Desert Hound said:
Um no. We have had bars in AZ open now for months. Our rate continues to drop. I get a burger and cocktail all the time at the bars. As do a substantial percentage of us around here. And numbers continue to drop.

If your theory were to be correct...our RT would be going the other direction.
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Well, I'll agree with Dad here a bit. It's clear the bars from what's been studied are somewhat a source of transmission....people gather close and no masks because you have to drink. What is ridiculous is if bars would reopen before schools.
 
dad4 said:
I don’t follow your argument on the vaccine.

A 70% effective vaccine used by 70% of the population would cut Rt in half. That, combined with masks, is more than enough to get Rt well below 1. (meaning that the number of cases would be declining exponentially)
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Sorry haven't had a chance to do the math. But I do point out we have had a vaccine for H1N1 now for years and it hasn't gone away...it's just much less bad than it was as it's mutated. The governor's standards don't care about severity of the disease (though he does reserve the right to use bad news re hospitalizations to punish folks). Even if the thing gets down to a common cold and the vaccine reduces the severity of the infection but doesn't stop it, as the virus flares up from time to time we are looking at restrictions assuming it's as ubiquitous as the common cold. It's very telling the governor did not include a green zone.

My guess is with vaccines and therapeutics this things gets to be something between a very bad flu-the common cold. But under the governor's standards we are still restricted FOR YEARS to come even if that's the case.
 
Grace T. said:
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
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and people still think this is about a disease that has a 98% recovery? GTFOH....end of November is the target
 
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