Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

As an educator I do think UTLA's demands are over the top. At one time I worked for LAUSD. Its a big machine. However, most teacher unions are not like UTLA. Not even close. Nor do they make demands like UTLA. My union works directly with the community, the district and the teachers. It's as transparent as it can be and essentially tries to avoid politics as much as possible. When statements are made about districts not able to open because of unions take into account its just not the unions. It is a collective. State government, local government, a district, etc...
 
As an educator I do think UTLA's demands are over the top. At one time I worked for LAUSD. Its a big machine. However, most teacher unions are not like UTLA. Not even close. Nor do they make demands like UTLA. My union works directly with the community, the district and the teachers. It's as transparent as it can be and essentially tries to avoid politics as much as possible. When statements are made about districts not able to open because of unions take into account its just not the unions. It is a collective. State government, local government, a district, etc...
Very well said! In my district the large majority of teachers want to be back in the classroom too and the district and the union easily agreed on a plan to do so. We only did not because Newsom issued the state order prohibiting a return by counties on the watchlist.
 
As an educator I do think UTLA's demands are over the top. At one time I worked for LAUSD. Its a big machine. However, most teacher unions are not like UTLA. Not even close. Nor do they make demands like UTLA. My union works directly with the community, the district and the teachers. It's as transparent as it can be and essentially tries to avoid politics as much as possible. When statements are made about districts not able to open because of unions take into account its just not the unions. It is a collective. State government, local government, a district, etc...
For me its just about the choice. LA County is not allowing parents and children a choice which is particularly tragic given the evidence that overwhelming supports reopening schools. Online schooling for kids doesn't work, period, and dramatically increases the education gap between the haves and the have nots.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/schools-coronavirus-remote-learning-lockdown-tech-11591375078
Now I have to admit the online education this fall is slightly improved but doesn't change its fundamental problems. Additionally, education is just one part of the in-person school benefits. Safety and socialization are a few of the other benefits. Yes, I agree all teacher unions are not the same. LAUSD and SDUSD unions are more concerned about their political power than they are students' needs, and likely teachers' needs for that matter. Like the alleged saying goes maybe they will be more concerned about students when students start paying union dues. My son's district was ready to open (with support of its union) with parents choice of 100% in person, 100% online or 50/50 but that choice was taken away by State politicians. Fortunately, they will be reopening shortly as the County has given permission to reopen September 1 (assuming Covid cases remain at the same rate). SDUSD is still refusing to reopen. Thankfully we're out of that corrupt and incompetent school district.
 
Very well said! In my district the large majority of teachers want to be back in the classroom too and the district and the union easily agreed on a plan to do so. We only did not because Newsom issued the state order prohibiting a return by counties on the watchlist.
Exactly. I opted to return.
 
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
 
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
And didn’t the color coding move to state wide instead of county wide?
 
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.

Yet barbershops and hairsalons will be open even in purple counties. In Ventura county, it means short of a waiver schools will be closed at least for another 5 weeks. And LA County has announced no waivers.
 
Here's the Deadline article summarizing. From what I gather individual guidance for each tier will be published soon so say if you are a soccer coach or a hair salon owner you can look at what's allowed in your area. But given schools have 2+ weeks added to whatever conditions, and given virtually the entire state is now purple, I personally think this is the nail in the soccer season. If it takes 3-5 weeks to a review a condition we are already into October people. No soccer for SoCal (except maybe San Diego if the numbers turn downward radically before the September 8 review date)

 
Here's the Deadline article summarizing. From what I gather individual guidance for each tier will be published soon so say if you are a soccer coach or a hair salon owner you can look at what's allowed in your area. But given schools have 2+ weeks added to whatever conditions, and given virtually the entire state is now purple, I personally think this is the nail in the soccer season. If it takes 3-5 weeks to a review a condition we are already into October people. No soccer for SoCal (except maybe San Diego if the numbers turn downward radically before the September 8 review date)

The markers keep getting moved in the game of life. Real tough times ahead everyone. Stay safe and soccer is the least of our worries.
 
Here's how rough the standards are. There is no "green" tier for return to normal life. It's purple/red/orange/yellow. To get yellow you need to get less than 1 case per 100,000. So LA County would need to report less than 90 cases per day. LA County reported 1,604 cases yesterday.

It also means unless the vaccine is about 90-93% effective or above and compliance is somewhere in the neighborhood of 85-95% in taking the vaccine, or unless the thing somehow herd immunities and magically disappears (very unlikely) we are looking at restrictions FOR YEARS into the future.
 
The way this works out to movie theatres, hair salons, and indoor dining (but not bars, but yes winieries outdoors) will be open before schools resume.

The governor specifically said there is no green level because he does not foresee any return to normal any time in the near future.

For professional sports, restrictions such as testing and live audiences continue even into the yellow zone which means youth sports are now in question even for fall 2021.
 
The way this works out to movie theatres, hair salons, and indoor dining (but not bars, but yes winieries outdoors) will be open before schools resume.

The governor specifically said there is no green level because he does not foresee any return to normal any time in the near future.

For professional sports, restrictions such as testing and live audiences continue even into the yellow zone which means youth sports are now in question even for fall 2021.
Hopefully other states opening with more businesses going back to normal it will put immense pressure on California to Buck this new system in a few months time. If not 2022 may be the states fresh start.
 
The elementary school(s) where I live are closed but yet the after school day care at the same school(s) are open. Strange.
 
Here's how rough the standards are. There is no "green" tier for return to normal life. It's purple/red/orange/yellow. To get yellow you need to get less than 1 case per 100,000. So LA County would need to report less than 90 cases per day. LA County reported 1,604 cases yesterday.

It also means unless the vaccine is about 90-93% effective or above and compliance is somewhere in the neighborhood of 85-95% in taking the vaccine, or unless the thing somehow herd immunities and magically disappears (very unlikely) we are looking at restrictions FOR YEARS into the future.

I don’t follow your argument on the vaccine.

A 70% effective vaccine used by 70% of the population would cut Rt in half. That, combined with masks, is more than enough to get Rt well below 1. (meaning that the number of cases would be declining exponentially)
 
IIUC yet another kick in the teeth from the governor's new county ratings. Instead of a 14 day wait to move it's now 21 days. The goalpost moving is astounding. You are widespread if a positivity rating of over 8% or over 100 per 100,000. Wow. 38 counties are widespread as a result.
So does this put OC and San Diego back to the watch list for another week? I honestly can’t wrap my head around the reasoning at all......
 
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