JumboJack
SILVER ELITE
Ok. What about the small businesses that are defying state regulations and are opening?
What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?
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I don't live in Orange County, and I'm not a professional Covid tracer so I cannot give you a specific case. HOWEVER, my son gave it to my husband who could have easily given it to a number of people (we knew many sick and one death). So as an example for your scenario: stinker #1 goes to soccer practice for team of 12 girls without symptoms but has the virus. Stinker #1 transmits to six other stinkers who in turn transmit to their parents. Their parents on turn transmit to grandparents and coworkers. Grandparents and coworkers may have underlying conditions or are of old age. They end up in the hospital and die. We don't have 90k deaths in the US for no reason! That's just how a virus works! It's BASIC COMMON SENSE!!!
Do you know that common sense shows that 7500 deaths occur daily in America? The peak death week with the China Virus is approximately 14k-15k/or just above 2k daily.
GK Mom, we can;t live like this. I already told everyone here my partner got sick for 10 days up in Kirkland WA in early Jan. I visited him Jan 21st and 22nd and went to Pikes with no mask or gloves and touched Amazon and Starbucks all days. I licked my fingers too after eating chocolate cookies from Pikes. The plane I went back on was 90% sick. It was crazy. I got home and guess what? I got___________________virus for at least 4 days. Gnarly aches and pains and I felt like crap. I was a zombie and it felt like pins and needles in my blood. Tough to breath and I was depressed. I hate being sick. My wife got it for 6 hours and then was ok. Vegans!!!!
You guys are over analyzing this. The only way to deal with this virus, short of a vaccine, is to get the antibodies for it by getting it. I don't think you can sugar code this. In the mean time, we obviously need to wear the mask and do social distancing but this virus needs to spread, hopefully slowly, in order to provide the immunity. Just like an earthquake, you deal with it as best as you can but you can't stop it.
Two months of lockdown didn't help much. Another 6 months won't help either.
Two months of lockdown didn't help much. Another 6 months won't help either.
To protect the wearer, it is hard. Don't bother unless you are particularly at risk.
To protect others, any cloth mask will do, so long as it slows your outgoing breath. A bandana is fine. Web search for made in usa cloth masks brings up some nice ones.
Eagle33
PREMIER
it is false sense of security to wear a cloth face mask or a bandana. It does absolutely nothing to protect you and anyone next to you. Surgical mask for that matter is the same.
Lightning Red
GOLD
Game on San Diego: San Diego Board of Supervisors to Submit Plans for Safe Return to Fields - SoccerNation
Board of Supervisors meeting: Tuesday May 19 at 9am San Diego County is, at the time of this article’s publishing, in “Phase 2” of California Governor Gavin Newsom‘s reopening guidelines. Very soon, the San Diego County Board of Supervisors will be presenting a detailed plan to add YOUTH SPORTS...
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Back to the question, when will trainings resume...since the question is resume vs. allowed, my foggy crystal balls indicates that some teams will begin training in June, but more realistically in July. I know clubs that are contacting the entities responsible for their fields and are trying to get them to allow trainings to resume. I suspect that it will require clubs to submit a detailed plan of the manner in which they will protect players and coaches. However, if you play in the City of LA I don't see your trainings resuming until at least September. For the whole state I don't see formal games until 2021 (I hope I'm wrong).
My caveat to all this is that the will of the people and the leaders of some counties may take things into their own hands and overwhelm the Governor and force him to be more lenient, or turn a blind eye, but I'm not holding my breath. Based on what I saw this past weekend in public, it appears that many people are done with the lockdown and are moving on. The sentiment is that we did what we were told and flattened the curve to not overwhelm hospitals, so screw the moving of the goal posts, were putting on our big boy pants (with our mask, of course) and getting back to work.
My caveat to all this is that the will of the people and the leaders of some counties may take things into their own hands and overwhelm the Governor and force him to be more lenient, or turn a blind eye, but I'm not holding my breath. Based on what I saw this past weekend in public, it appears that many people are done with the lockdown and are moving on. The sentiment is that we did what we were told and flattened the curve to not overwhelm hospitals, so screw the moving of the goal posts, were putting on our big boy pants (with our mask, of course) and getting back to work.
Josh vinck
BRONZE
Newsom just started pro sports can come back (without fans) in first week or so of June. Hope this means kids can start back up as well.
CDC says otherwise. It catches some large droplets, and slows the others so they dont go as far.
We aren't talking 95% here. 50% still helps reduce Rt, which is enough.
Can we call it pro sports if we pay the athletes in ice cream?
Great news! Also a round of applause for San Diego's leadership that have objected to Newsom's draconian reopening requirements (on a somewhat bi-partisan basis) .Game on San Diego: San Diego Board of Supervisors to Submit Plans for Safe Return to Fields - SoccerNation
Board of Supervisors meeting: Tuesday May 19 at 9am San Diego County is, at the time of this article’s publishing, in “Phase 2” of California Governor Gavin Newsom‘s reopening guidelines. Very soon, the San Diego County Board of Supervisors will be presenting a detailed plan to add YOUTH SPORTS...
Eagle33
PREMIER
Your sense of common sense may be a little skewed. Here's some data from New York City. This is total deaths, Covid and all: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/27/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city.html
You get your medical information from DJ Jay Bling, and I’ll get mine from CDC and WHO.
If you’re a chem person, you’d notice that the video uses non-polar oil spray at high velocity to simulate polar water spray at low velocity. We already know cotton doesn’t trap oil. This is why your dad always told you not to touch the side of the tent. Oil makes the cloth more porous.
Wash out your wife’s old perfume mister and try it with water. You’ll get a different result.
Better yet, if you want to know about cloth masks and water droplets, here is a video of someone who used a laser to look for water droplets with and without a cloth mask. The no mask version has far more green specks that the mask version. That means more water got through with no mask.
Use a good monitor. You can’t really see it on a phone.
So I have to ask.. What is your plan? Are you self isolating until there is a vaccine? Seems to be what you are leading to.