What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

But if you don't sneak out and hold trainings before local health authorities have approved them then you may not win your bracket at the Thanksgiving Desert Shoot-Out, and then no one will get a college scholarship.

This is, unfortunately, a perfect time for... let's call them "ambitious" coaches and parents to do some dumb stuff.

No one wants to be #SaferAtHome. Everyone wants to be back to "normal." For the long term health of the kids (and the game), it would be great if the message was, "We don't need to be the first team back."
 
pokergod said:
I too have seen huge groups of kids wearing the same jerseys, big clubs, at parks with a coach. I'm shocked that the coach isn't telling the kids to refrain from wearing team gear. I know quite a few of the club DOC's have advised coaches they will be fired if they run practices.
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Not just that the liability risk since insurance coverage would be nulled, and if CalSouth finds out they need to take action or Newsom will threaten to not approve the soccer season for anyone.
 
Grace T. said:
Not just that the liability risk since insurance coverage would be nulled, and if CalSouth finds out they need to take action or Newsom will threaten to not approve the soccer season for anyone.
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I think many people have stopped listening to Governor Newsom. As proven with Tesla and the Indian Casinos, if you have enough money you can change the rules. It would seem to be political suicide to continue the lockdown with people actively ignoring you. Without going too deep into politics I would venture that going from a $5B surplus to a $55B deficit and the Federal government looking like they have no intention of helping, I would think you HAVE to allow the state to start opening up simply from a financial perspective.
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
I think many people have stopped listening to Governor Newsom. As proven with Tesla and the Indian Casinos, if you have enough money you can change the rules. It would seem to be political suicide to continue the lockdown with people actively ignoring you. Without going too deep into politics I would venture that going from a $5B surplus to a $55B deficit and the Federal government looking like they have no intention of helping, I would think you HAVE to allow the state to start opening up simply from a financial perspective.
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Agree but it's still an incredibly stupid thing for teams to be organizing practices, without permits, without insurance, in violation of state orders, without the sanction of CalSouth. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but as a practical matter an organized team practice, regardless of whether you think it has an epidemic danger, is just stupid for other reasons (ban from future permits and fines, no coverage if injury, legal citiations, and a ban on play by CalSouth) and if they have their kids wearing the team shirt and some Karen identifies them, there will be consequences. PT is one thing...each trainer and parent needs to make their own risk assessment given the circumstances, but it's not as reckless as a team practicing. And if, God forbid, some kid does come down with it in practice or gets injured without insurance or the team gets identified by a Karen, the media's going to jump all over it and there goes soccer for a little longer for everyone else.
 
Grace T. said:
Agree but it's still an incredibly stupid thing for teams to be organizing practices, without permits, without insurance, in violation of state orders, without the sanction of CalSouth. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but as a practical matter an organized team practice, regardless of whether you think it has an epidemic danger, is just stupid for other reasons (ban from future permits and fines, no coverage if injury, legal citiations, and a ban on play by CalSouth) and if they have their kids wearing the team shirt and some Karen identifies them, there will be consequences. PT is one thing...each trainer and parent needs to make their own risk assessment given the circumstances, but it's not as reckless as a team practicing. And if, God forbid, some kid does come down with it in practice or gets injured without insurance or the team gets identified by a Karen, the media's going to jump all over it and there goes soccer for a little longer for everyone else.
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Dr. Gupta wrote an interesting essay that was just released. I wish every teacher would either read it to their students or have the students read it for homework. Very well written and explains in fairly simple terms about viruses. Actually, I think some adults would benefit from reading it. It is not political for those of you ready to jump on it thinking that is what it is.
 
Grace T. said:
Agree but it's still an incredibly stupid thing for teams to be organizing practices, without permits, without insurance, in violation of state orders, without the sanction of CalSouth. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but as a practical matter an organized team practice, regardless of whether you think it has an epidemic danger, is just stupid for other reasons (ban from future permits and fines, no coverage if injury, legal citiations, and a ban on play by CalSouth) and if they have their kids wearing the team shirt and some Karen identifies them, there will be consequences. PT is one thing...each trainer and parent needs to make their own risk assessment given the circumstances, but it's not as reckless as a team practicing. And if, God forbid, some kid does come down with it in practice or gets injured without insurance or the team gets identified by a Karen, the media's going to jump all over it and there goes soccer for a little longer for everyone else.
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As someone who in the risk mitigation business, I wholeheartedly agree with your point. My point is that the governor will have to move to open up more quickly than he may like.
 
Copa9 said:
Dr. Gupta wrote an interesting essay that was just released. I wish every teacher would either read it to their students or have the students read it for homework. Very well written and explains in fairly simple terms about viruses. Actually, I think some adults would benefit from reading it. It is not political for those of you ready to jump on it thinking that is what it is.
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The parents that want their children to participate can sign waivers, the ones that want to stay home they can.
You can't lock people up until they find a cure. They are fighting an uphill battle against human nature. You have to reopen, people must wear masks and obey the social distancing, but you can't lock people in their homes and prevent kids from playing sports. Life happens, viruses are part of life. Eventually people need get immunity from this virus. Nature will take care of itself. No more lockdowns !!
 
Grace T. said:
Agree but it's still an incredibly stupid thing for teams to be organizing practices, without permits, without insurance, in violation of state orders, without the sanction of CalSouth. I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but as a practical matter an organized team practice, regardless of whether you think it has an epidemic danger, is just stupid for other reasons (ban from future permits and fines, no coverage if injury, legal citiations, and a ban on play by CalSouth) and if they have their kids wearing the team shirt and some Karen identifies them, there will be consequences. PT is one thing...each trainer and parent needs to make their own risk assessment given the circumstances, but it's not as reckless as a team practicing. And if, God forbid, some kid does come down with it in practice or gets injured without insurance or the team gets identified by a Karen, the media's going to jump all over it and there goes soccer for a little longer for everyone else.
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I have my kids wear the jerseys from the old clubs we have left for their private trainings just in case anyone drives by then their old clubs will get in trouble and not the new ones.
 
JPS said:
The parents that want their children to participate can sign waivers, the ones that want to stay home they can.
You can't lock people up until they find a cure. They are fighting an uphill battle against human nature. You have to reopen, people must wear masks and obey the social distancing, but you can't lock people in their homes and prevent kids from playing sports. Life happens, viruses are part of life. Eventually people need get immunity from this virus. Nature will take care of itself. No more lockdowns !!
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No one is locking you up.

Though, with 1000 new cases per day in LA, you might want to limit the “I can do whatever I want“ impulses. I agree that you can probably raise that to 10,000 per day if you all keep at it. I just don’t see why you want to.
 
dad4 said:
No one is locking you up.

Though, with 1000 new cases per day in LA, you might want to limit the “I can do whatever I want“ impulses. I agree that you can probably raise that to 10,000 per day if you all keep at it. I just don’t see why you want to.
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All we can do is to do the protocols and wear a mask. We can't worry so much about dying that we commit suicide to prevent death.
 
JPS said:
All we can do is to do the protocols and wear a mask. We can't worry so much about dying that we commit suicide to prevent death.
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Practicing social-distancing and waiting another 4-5 weeks to participate in teams sports, go to movies, and eat at restaurants does not amount to "committing suicide". On the other hand, being an ER doctor or nurse in a place where people place their own self-important needs over the health of the community is much more akin to suicide.
 
LMULions said:
Practicing social-distancing and waiting another 4-5 weeks to participate in teams sports, go to movies, and eat at restaurants does not amount to "committing suicide". On the other hand, being an ER doctor or nurse in a place where people place their own self-important needs over the health of the community is much more akin to suicide.
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Like feeding and housing their families or keeping their small business afloat? Stay in your house and hide.
 
JumboJack said:
Like feeding and housing their families or keeping their small business afloat? Stay in your house and hide.
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Most of the shelter in place violations seem to be social, not economic.

If you make less than 50K per year and are cutting lawns on the side to get enough money for food, I’m in no spot to criticize. Best of luck and I hope your family is safe.

If you are one of the ones hiring in-person private trainers and hosting small parties every weekend, then your actions have absolutely nothing to do with “putting food on the table.“ Call it what it is.

The people hosting parties do it because they want parties. And they value the party more than they value reducing disease transmission.

The people hiring in-person trainers do it because they want their kid to win. If the goal is to help the coach, schedule a zoom training and pay him the in person rate.
 
dad4 said:
Most of the shelter in place violations seem to be social, not economic.

If you make less than 50K per year and are cutting lawns on the side to get enough money for food, I’m in no spot to criticize. Best of luck and I hope your family is safe.

If you are one of the ones hiring in-person private trainers and hosting small parties every weekend, then your actions have absolutely nothing to do with “putting food on the table.“ Call it what it is.

The people hosting parties do it because they want parties. And they value the party more than they value reducing disease transmission.

The people hiring in-person trainers do it because they want their kid to win. If the goal is to help the coach, schedule a zoom training and pay him the in person rate.
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Agreed. I'm not really understanding the people who don't want to follow social distancing (wear a mask, stay six feet apart). I'm not saying shut the economy down, just practice safe interactions. Why wouldn't you want to slow the spread? The faster we slow this thing down the faster we can get on with our lives, and get the kids back on the fields. Not practicing social distancing will just delay everything
 
I saw a team of 6 girls
gkmom said:
Agreed. I'm not really understanding the people who don't want to follow social distancing (wear a mask, stay six feet apart). I'm not saying shut the economy down, just practice safe interactions. Why wouldn't you want to slow the spread? The faster we slow this thing down the faster we can get on with our lives, and get the kids back on the fields. Not practicing social distancing will just delay everything
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Mask are a big waste of time and no one in OC under 18 has died!!! No one is making us wear them now. I still get some dirty looks from people driving with their mask on and gloves on in the car. I laugh at them and they get all mad.....lol!!!!
 
Ellejustus said:
I saw a team of 6 girls

Mask are a big waste of time and no one in OC under 18 has died!!! No one is making us wear them now. I still get some dirty looks from people driving with their mask on and gloves on in the car. I laugh at them and they get all mad.....lol!!!!
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Yes, nobody under the age of 18 has died, but they are spreading the virus to others who can die. The more virus and the more deaths there are the longer it will take to reopen. Masks help stop the spread!!! Why would you want to spread this virus to others who are at risk, just because you're not? That's what I'm having a hard time understanding, and quite frankly feel is very selfish
 
gkmom said:
Yes, nobody under the age of 18 has died, but they are spreading the virus to others who can die. The more virus and the more deaths there are the longer it will take to reopen. Masks help stop the spread!!! Why would you want to spread this virus to others who are at risk, just because you're not? That's what I'm having a hard time understanding, and quite frankly feel is very selfish
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Please share the death that happen in OC from a little stinker bug giving the virus to old person and they died?
 
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