If you have ever spent any amount of time in a classroom, especially elementary classrooms, teachers do not stay in one spot, they are constantly moving around helping students and keeping them focused. I guess they can carry their lap top or phone in one hand while trying to help students to get their zoom lesson in. Then there is the privacy issue, students who don't understand or make a mistake will have that information shared with everyone on zoom. So interesting what people think that have never taught a class. We are not talking about college level lectures, we are talking about real live hands on instruction. Maybe, maybe the high school teachers could do what you are asking but not the elementary and middle school teachers.
What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?
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You should stay home to be safe. Don't worry, your kid can come back next year as flight 2 player, if he already isn't.
SoccerFan4Life
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kickingandscreaming
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Don't admire me too much. My daughter has homeschooled the past 2 years (8th and 9th grade) and she loves it. I have done little direct teaching, but I do support her questions regularly. Online classes and the local community college have been the source of all her HS credits except for PE which I track as minutes from her team trainings and game cards. For self-motivated students that don't mind working independently, it's a great way to get ahead and have flexibility. If your child fits that description, it's surprisingly easy to do (File a Private School Affidavit and keep track of the transcript and attendance). I will say that I wouldn't want to do it if I had to push her to do her work. Adding that stress to "normal" parenting would be more than I consider healthy for our relationship. It only works for us because she is fully invested. Now, if someone can do it well when the child isn't particularly motivated, they definitely deserve admiration.
kickingandscreaming
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Interesting. I heard that Stanford was considering holding classes in big tents they put up on campus. We'll see a lot of creativity this year.
The grade school teachers I spoke with said the difficulty wasn't in the teaching by zoom, it was the child at home having difficulties sitting still, learning, paying attention, disappearing during the zoom class, jumping on their bed, etc. My feeling is have 80-90% of the kids in class. The parents that don't want to have their kids there, for whatever reason, can use zoom as an alternate. This isn't the best way to teach them, I agree. What is the alternate if the kids aren't in class? Looking to give parents some choice in this decision as some do not want their kid in a class no matter what. Maybe we choose different methods based on the level of the students. No matter what choice is made it seems some sacrifices will be made.
Keepermom2
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There is a positive in zoom meetings...the problem children can be muted so the rest of the kids that want to learn can learn.
Keepermom2
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My older daughter did 2 elective courses online this year. It had one test at the end of the course that required a 60% or better to get credit. There were quizzes and writing assignments along the way too. That final test was taken and recorded. They have video software that identifies potential cheating and then a person reviews the video if the software identifies cheating triggers. Would we need as many teachers if we did online recorded classes for people that can do it and small group classes for children that needed more one on one instruction? The one size fits all model hasn't been working and maybe this situation is just the push needed to think out of the box.
You know neither statement is true. Yeah, they don't measure the value of each parent (or even player) as a human being (or even a soccer player). But they also aren't just there to make it easier to arrange games. That's the original intent. It's not now. It's also not the reason why so many people would want Surf and other tournaments to happen. The flights are gatekeepers tied into college admissions...the flights do say something about the worth of particular clubs (and coaches). That's why so many clubs are desperate for promotion (and will take development shortcuts to get those promotions). A lot of the problems with US soccer can be traced to the flights, but you also can't have teams playing each other burning them 20-0. It's the big dilemma of soccer in the US....I've spent a lot of time thinking it and have come up with nothing to fix it.
A few days ago I just saw a video from a training session with "top flight" older goalkeepers. Kids were very athletic with quick reactions, but also saw them repeatedly falling and failing to execute a proper dive on a saveable shot. Tired and late into the session? Maybe. But it's not the first time I've seen this problem.
They can’t even stop the spread of STD’s in Nursing Homes...how are they gonna stop a flu virus?
rainbow_unicorn
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Cheaters will easily find a way around that.
Cheaters somewhere will get credit, sure. And then suffer the first time they take a real exam when they get back.
But if you need a way for your kid to learn material and pick up credits for it, the online CC classes are pretty nice. If your own kid has an urge to cheat then you are stuck being proctor. It’s a drag but not a big deal.
Agree with most of what you said. Most of the teachers have been successful just using zoom for lessons, however if they have to do both at the same time there can be a lot of problems. As in the past, parents do have a choice to home school their kids through district programs. The programs are well established and are successful. The biggest problem with in class instruction will be space. Our classrooms are very small and very crowded. Many districts in other states have smaller class sizes and larger rooms, they might be able to have adequate spacing, just don't see it working in southern California unless you have split days or week.
What's beginning to annoy me is that weeks ago the press was saying the anti-lockdown protestors were going to kill thousands of people for failing to properly social distance or wear masks. But now with the new protests and riots, they don't seem to be mentioning the fear of transmission, or the danger of not wearing masks? If it's so urgent to stop the spread of the pandemic, you would think the authorities would treat it as a severe emergency (let alone the fires, violence and theft). But somehow that's not a problem or it's justified because people are rightly angered and have a right to protest, but kid's sports (kids being the most resistent group to the virus) is a problem and the kids are expected to be locked up all summer with nothing to do? So what did we sacrifice all that time, and businesses, and people's livelihood's for if they're going to continue to let that happen? Why were they saying we couldn't go to beaches or get a hair cut if they're going to continue to let people gather in groups like that, let alone riot and loot?
SoccerFan6
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Amazing the rabbit trails on this board. Back the the title of the thread, “my best guess as to when trainings will resume”:
SD, June 8.
OC and Ventura, June 15
LA, Late July.
Obviously it will look quite different when teams get back.
SD, June 8.
OC and Ventura, June 15
LA, Late July.
Obviously it will look quite different when teams get back.
SoccerFan4Life
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I just saw a local baseball training in Yorba Linda. Also lots of private trainers (errr coaches) in parks this week. June 15th is looking very real for OC.
The state is irrelevant. You respect the state. I don't. They have no clue what they are doing. They pack people in Walmart & Costco and Target, etc.... and are worried about kids playing outdoor. You're drinking the koolaid buddy. Try to think a little more independently. Don't follow the likes of Garcetti and people with political agenda under the cover of science and wanting the best for the society. You need to get out there and live the life god has given you and stop complaining about the nature. Take all precautions but don't go into hiding and don't get manipulated by the "state"
The biggest impediment right now to the OC going at the same time as Ventura is the mask order. While the OC is not as extreme as the LA County order, it does require masks any time you can't ensure the 6 ft distance, even if outside such as on the beach. The OC sheriff has said they aren't going to enforce, but will educate, but that's still going to stop parks and rec, insurance providers, and Cal south from giving the greenlight without clarification on what's required. The good news is the OC Supervisors are drilling down on it, trying to get to a policy that makes sense. The bad news is its politics and so will take time....that piece has to be clarified before the greenlight is given and hopefully it comes together soon. At least initially, it might require 6ft distancing between players in training such as individual squares, which I can't see lasting very long (some teams will cheat, pressuring other teams to cheat too).