"We the People..."
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What were the repercussions for not praying? If were going to make freedom of speech decisions based on how it makes people "feel" we're in big trouble and again who should be delegated that responsibility to determine what speech should be restricted because it made someone feel a certain way.
Just FYI the school district rule is the following: Its illegal and unethical for public school employees to coerce, pressure, persuade, or force students, players, staff, or other participants to engage in any religious practice as a condition of playing, employment, belonging, or participation.
Again what conditions did he impose on a player for not praying?
Were you drunk when you wrote this? Are you trying to be an asshole or is this just some genetic disposition? Do you have friends? family? Really curious about the type of human that could write crap like this. I want to believe you're not a piece of garbage...but those words you wrote certainly make you look like a sewer dweller.
I take you haven't read many of LE's posts here.
I have, but only to keep myself abreast of "those mindsets". So far, though, this comment takes the cake -- had to read it a few times to let it soak in.
Takes a sewer dweller to know a sewer dweller... I responded to a post by Magoo regarding taking a knee...
What I posted was tongue in cheek...so please don't worry about me Daddy. I have wonderful friends and a very loving family.
What was/is so offensive about keeping ones knees together?
How many of Maggo's mindsets have you kept abreast with? If you agree with his mindset then perhaps that speaks volumes...
I keep contact with some MAGA-heads on FB just to know what they are saying these days. One dependably right-wing lady said after the RvW overturn that she felt that that meant that the Republicans had lost their chance to win enough seats in November to take over Congress.
Speaking of suckers...what exactly does the high lighted sentence say Magoo?
KENNEDY v. BREMERTON SCHOOL DISTRICT CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
No. 21–418. Argued April 25, 2022—Decided June 27, 2022
Petitioner Joseph Kennedy lost his job as a high school football coach in the Bremerton School District after he knelt at midfield after games to offer a quiet personal prayer. Mr. Kennedy sued in federal court, alleging that the District’s actions violated the First Amendment’s Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses. He also moved for a preliminary injunction requiring the District to reinstate him. The District Court denied that motion, and the Ninth Circuit affirmed. After the parties engaged in discovery, they filed cross-motions for summary judgment. The District Court found that the “‘sole reason’” for the District’s decision to suspend Mr. Kennedy was its perceived “risk of constitutional liability” under the Establishment Clause for his “religious conduct” after three games in October 2015. 443 F. Supp. 3d 1223, 1231. The District Court granted summary judgment to the District and the Ninth Circuit affirmed. The Ninth Circuit denied a petition to rehear the case en banc over the dissents of 11 judges. 4 F. 4th 910, 911. Several dissenters argued that the panel applied a flawed understanding of the Establishment Clause reflected in Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U. S. 602, and that this Court has abandoned Lemon’s “ahistorical, atextual” approach to disce
He was disciplined by the school and told not to pray with his players...
He then walked away from players and others on the field, took a knee and did his thing for three games and was fired....
My basketball coach bribed us all with a Steak dinner if we went to church with him. I was Mormon still but looking for my own answers to life and took him up on the offer. The Pastor let us all know we were sinners and going to hell. If we ask Jesus to come into our hearts, not only do we get a free steak dinner, we get free salvation and play time and in good standing with coach. I played my cards perfectly and got the starting job. The guys that went to church with coach played and the other guys had a tough time and that was wrong. I had idea how life was played and I sure didn't want to go to hell for eternity. He got in trouble and later quit. Praying is ok, but bribes for play time is not.
It pays to pray these days
Did you just pull a "takes one to know one" comeback? What are you 5 years old?
That's just not something you say "tongue in cheek". Do you have a daughter?
I do feel bad for you. Our system has failed you. I'm guessing you're this way because of your upbringing.
And, if you don't see why a public school coach/teacher should refrain from prayer at school functions then I'm not sure why this discussion is worth anyone's time. You all know how humans work -- you think the coach won't, either consciously or subconsciously, "remember" which players took part in the prayer or more importantly which ones didn't? Keep religion out of schools and government. These are basics and what our founding fathers wanted.
Yeah, not cool. I really struggle with churches that actively try to recruit members. I have a hard time believing that its sincere.
It wasn't a church recruiting members Watty. The coach was very evangelistic and shared Christ with everyone back then. I raised my hand to get saved and then get a free steak. I never went back to the coaches church bro. I went back to the Mormon church and then quit church altogether ((my choice)) until I was 21 ((my choice again)) and here I am. I love God so much and feel like the coach was only trying to save his players from going to hell.
Crush is full of strange stories. I put him on ignore long ago so I didn't have to waste any more time reading through any more of his crap.
Crush is honest with his stories and for some reason over the years, you think my stories to be "strange" "Coo Coo" "Nonsense" and you have also accused me of being on medication. You also called me a liar and I think in one way, I was a liar to you and you felt that lie and it hurt you because you had hope I was gone for good. Sorry Doc Grandpa, not leaving until you tell everyone that crush has been right about his predictions and that you sir have been 100% wrong for at least 6 years. I know I live in your head and I know the Truth.
Quoting Gorsuch's lies over and over does not make them any truer.