Ventura Coach Accused of Inappropriate Acts

That's why this is upsetting and why there has to be rules and structure in place to prevent opportunities from being available. VT pled guilty so he admitted to having sex with his 14 year old player - it happened, not alleged or suspected anymore. It is a fact, not he said/she said or a false claim by someone that some suspected of trying to ruin his reputation.
 
Soccer43 said:
That's why this is upsetting and why there has to be rules and structure in place to prevent opportunities from being available. VT pled guilty so he admitted to having sex with his 14 year old player - it happened, not alleged or suspected anymore. It is a fact, not he said/she said or a false claim by someone that some suspected of trying to ruin his reputation.
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No one disputes what VT has plead to, I certainly haven't. His reputation is forever tarnished.
What I dispute is that the club or anyone for that matter was aware of something neferious and ignored it...
 
I would agree with you - it is possible they knew nothing and if you don't know what the warning signs are you would never suspect this.
 
Coaches have separate lives from soccer and this from what I understand all happened during personal time, not at any team or club events. I also heard that her mother was the team manager during that time. Obviously this was hidden from everyone. Parents must be hyper vigilant at all times!
 
Coke bottle eyes said:
Coaches have separate lives from soccer and this from what I understand all happened during personal time, not at any team or club events. I also heard that her mother was the team manager during that time. Obviously this was hidden from everyone. Parents must be hyper vigilant at all times!
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You joined two years ago, you have only made 6 comments in two years, and all 6 have been in defense of the Eagles on this topic. No other comments, no other posts? What is your affiliation?

Back to the topic, Vince Thomas, the Eagles Girls DOC broke the #1 rule and did not look out for the welfare of the players he was entrusted to protect. The fact that the mother was the "Team Manager" even further infuriates me, and makes me think that the Eagles management had to know something.
 
Sons of Pitches said:
You joined two years ago, you have only made 6 comments in two years, and all 6 have been in defense of the Eagles on this topic. No other comments, no other posts? What is your affiliation?

Back to the topic, Vince Thomas, the Eagles Girls DOC broke the #1 rule and did not look out for the welfare of the players he was entrusted to protect. The fact that the mother was the "Team Manager" even further infuriates me, and makes me think that the Eagles management had to know something.
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You're wrong....
 
Sons of Pitches said:
You joined two years ago, you have only made 6 comments in two years, and all 6 have been in defense of the Eagles on this topic. No other comments, no other posts? What is your affiliation?

Back to the topic, Vince Thomas, the Eagles Girls DOC broke the #1 rule and did not look out for the welfare of the players he was entrusted to protect. The fact that the mother was the "Team Manager" even further infuriates me, and makes me think that the Eagles management had to know something.
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What does the mom being the team manager have to do with anything? Because she is the team manager, the Eagles must have known? Basically you are implying the mom knew, let it continue and told the Eagles????? I don't follow.
 
Fact said:
What does the mom being the team manager have to do with anything? Because she is the team manager, the Eagles must have known? Basically you are implying the mom knew, let it continue and told the Eagles????? I don't follow.
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You are implying that she knew. I was just stating a known fact and was not implying anything....If I were to assume anything is would be that she didn't know or she would have notified the authorities immediately and it wouldn't have gone unreported for TEN years. My reason for posting that information was to show how well hidden it must have been. Geez.
 
As a parent of a very young DD I have a hard time following this. How does something like this happen? Where does it happen? Where are the parents? How is is possible not to know what your daughter is doing at any given time? I'm assuming they are not driving themselves to these "escapades" with the coaches. I'm assuming they are not paying for their own cell phones, so a parent would have access to any texts, or social media accounts at any given time. Are we now leaving our parenting to a soccer club?
 
Chalklines said:
My issue with the eagle's is the pattern snellycleatss is talking about. Too many major issues being delt with internally to keep a winning cultre / club / coaches intact. The bussiness first approach is a very dangerous game for youth sports because the bigger issues get overlooked.
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Do you think we as parents share in some of the blame. We’re the ones demanding wins/performance from the club. They know what the landscape is here in SoCal.
 
ATRTDT said:
VT bought so much money into the eagles program for his college contacts. He could make your daughters dreams of playing college soccer come true with a few calls and emails.
This translates into big bucks for the club. Bussiness do horrible things to retain their cash cows.
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Some of that is true..
But that's not what happened here.

If your dd is a talented player, no need for the coach to make any phone calls or emails.
 
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ATRTDT said:
You knew Vince and though he was innocent. The Eagles must be too, right???? Until they are 100% in the clear of this thing I wouldnt be making those types of assumptions.

One thing that crossed my mind was I feel bad for the parents who stood outside the courtroom from the club in Vince's defense. We talk about "the car ride home" with our kids all the time but imagine that car ride after he admitted guilt for those supporters...........
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I know how parents and former players feel.
You're speculating.
 
I would think that for those families that were adamant supporters, thought he was fabulous, and thoroughly trusted him that they would not be sad and shocked but angry for his lying to their face about who he was.
 
Soccer43 said:
I would think that for those families that were adamant supporters, thought he was fabulous, and thoroughly trusted him that they would not be sad and shocked but angry for his lying to their face about who he was.
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I'm not saying that the Eagles knew about it and ignored it. I believe that they found out, kept it quiet, and handled it internally. Based on experiences in my past as a kid, I know how painful, sickening, and gut-wrenching it is to put your faith in someone only to find out they are not who they say they are. It's horrific to find out that a person you thought had your best interests at heart is actually a master manipulator. As soccer43 stated those broken feelings quickly turn to anger. I know that there are parents at Eagles who are or were heavily invested in the club that must be feeling this anger. At this point it can be directed at only one person, Vince Thomas, who alone is responsible for his actions. Time will tell if the Eagles knew and kept it quiet to protect their assets and their reputation. It is a small soccer world. Its my belief that when abuse occurs (especially in a small tight organization) there is always someone who knew.
Maybe it's because of my past experiences, that I recognizedthese patterns at Eagles. I wouldn't necessarily expect a person who has had normal experiences to pick up on it.
 
ATRTDT said:
Since your speaking for the club. How do parents feel about Vinces assistant coach from then? Mike Alexander?
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Speculating and assuming seem to be walking hand in hand...
I don't speak for the club. I speak to my experience with the club.
 
smellycleats said:
I'm not saying that the Eagles knew about it and ignored it. I believe that they found out, kept it quiet, and handled it internally. Based on experiences in my past as a kid, I know how painful, sickening, and gut-wrenching it is to put your faith in someone only to find out they are not who they say they are. It's horrific to find out that a person you thought had your best interests at heart is actually a master manipulator. As soccer43 stated those broken feelings quickly turn to anger. I know that there are parents at Eagles who are or were heavily invested in the club that must be feeling this anger. At this point it can be directed at only one person, Vince Thomas, who alone is responsible for his actions. Time will tell if the Eagles knew and kept it quiet to protect their assets and their reputation. It is a small soccer world. Its my belief that when abuse occurs (especially in a small tight organization) there is always someone who knew.
Maybe it's because of my past experiences, that I recognizedthese patterns at Eagles. I wouldn't necessarily expect a person who has had normal experiences to pick up on it.
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"Always" rarely is...
 
ATRTDT said:
What do you think?

The article in the acorn said things went on while the victim was 15 and escalated when she 16 years old. Wouldn't an assistant coach have the most insight into what was going on with the team over a 2 year period? Way too many eyes and mouths for this thing never to have surfaced internally for the Eagles.
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Speculation once again.
The Ventura County Sheriff and District Attorneys Office investigated this matter, talking with current & former players, parents, and club officials.
They disagree with you.
 
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This is my first post and wanted to put it out that there has been a new coaching hire within the Eagles soccer club. Highly regarded girls coach Kristy Walker has left RSC and is now coaching at Eagles starting tonight. I believe this is a great hire for the Eagles and will obviously help them with the VT turmoil of the past year. I'm sure the flood gates will open up as girls love playing for her.
 
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