Vaccine

dad4 said:
Lot of spite in her first 8 seconds. Then I turned it off. Do you actually listen to hours of that?

Not good for the soul. It would be like putting AOC on auto-repeat.
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How'd I know that would be your response? The most threatening thing to the left is an opposing opinion. Thanks for proving that again.

C'mon AOC is entertaining to say the least. She also carries a lot of weight among leftists, so its important to know what she is "thinking".
 
watfly said:
How'd I know that would be your response? The most threatening thing to the left is an opposing opinion. Thanks for proving that again.

C'mon AOC is entertaining to say the least. She also carries a lot of weight among leftists, so its important to know what she is "thinking".
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AOC and Kelly have a lot in common. It’s the same theory, and an old one: find an attractive woman to vent your spleen for you. Don’t worry too much about whether you’re making sense.

Count me as not a fan of either.

The value of the opinion itself is minimal. Taking a quote about delta variant era vaccine efficacy, then contrasting it with quotes about omicron era vaccine efficacy? And using the contrast to pretend you were lied to?

That’s just grandstanding. There was no reason to think delta variant vaccine data would apply unchanged to omicron transmission. Why bother complaining that it didn’t?
 
watfly said:
How'd I know that would be your response? The most threatening thing to the left is an opposing opinion. Thanks for proving that again.

C'mon AOC is entertaining to say the least. She also carries a lot of weight among leftists, so its important to know what she is "thinking".
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Again there you are with the pail in your hand. “A lot of weight”? Can you show where that idea comes from? She carries far more “weight” amongst the spiteful and aggrieved. Perhaps you suffer from AOC/DS? Or is it more, again like trump, do you need a strawman, a nemesis to accuse of victimizing you and make you feel better about being against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Americans . . . but then again you also conveniently deny that many of those Americans aren’t really “muricans”, right?
 
dad4 said:
AOC and Kelly have a lot in common. It’s the same theory, and an old one: find an attractive woman to vent your spleen for you. Don’t worry too much about whether you’re making sense.

Count me as not a fan of either.

The value of the opinion itself is minimal. Taking a quote about delta variant era vaccine efficacy, then contrasting it with quotes about omicron era vaccine efficacy? And using the contrast to pretend you were lied to?

That’s just grandstanding. There was no reason to think delta variant vaccine data would apply unchanged to omicron transmission. Why bother complaining that it didn’t?
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There is that curious underlying misogyny again from the left. Tell me about your law degree?

Hüsker Dü said:
Again there you are with the pail in your hand. “A lot of weight”? Can you show where that idea comes from? She carries far more “weight” amongst the spiteful and aggrieved. Perhaps you suffer from AOC/DS? Or is it more, again like trump, do you need a strawman, a nemesis to accuse of victimizing you and make you feel better about being against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Americans . . . but then again you also conveniently deny that many of those Americans aren’t really “muricans”, right?
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I think you need to direct that to Dad4. She is neither to be feared or lauded, but while I disagree with her politically, she is a formidable opponent. I wouldn't discount her at all. Are you saying we should ignore her? I think she is more than just a squeaky wheel.

The Paradoxical Power of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Northeastern University Political Review

www.nupoliticalreview.com www.nupoliticalreview.com
 
watfly said:
There is that curious underlying misogyny again from the left. Tell me about your law degree?


I think you need to direct that to Dad4. She is neither to be feared or lauded, but while I disagree with her politically, she is a formidable opponent. I wouldn't discount her at all. Are you saying we should ignore her? I think she is more than just a squeaky wheel.

The Paradoxical Power of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Northeastern University Political Review

www.nupoliticalreview.com www.nupoliticalreview.com
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Law degree? That teaches you how to argue, twist things sideways, and dodge uncomfortable points. Kind of the opposite for what you want when trying to think through something. Tell me about her biology PhD, and she has my respect.

Not sure why you count me on the left. I‘m not really a high tax/wealth redistribution kind of guy. I do think the behavior of the no-mask/no-vax/no-rules crowd resulted in a very large number of deaths. That doesn’t mean I trust the feds to solve most social problems by injecting cash. It just means I see the Delta wave deaths as completely avoidable.
 
dad4 said:
Law degree? That teaches you how to argue, twist things sideways, and dodge uncomfortable points. Kind of the opposite for what you want when trying to think through something. Tell me about her biology PhD, and she has my respect.
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Missed the point entirely, again. Your claim was that she was just a pretty face. She is actually a very accomplished person. Lawyers also present evidence, doesn't take a biologist to point out a persons lies...she did it with Fauci's own words alone.

Also I'm not going to let a biologist determine whether schools and businesses should be closed. Letting Fauci do it is how we got into this mess.
 
watfly said:
There is that curious underlying misogyny again from the left. Tell me about your law degree?


I think you need to direct that to Dad4. She is neither to be feared or lauded, but while I disagree with her politically, she is a formidable opponent. I wouldn't discount her at all. Are you saying we should ignore her? I think she is more than just a squeaky wheel.

The Paradoxical Power of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Northeastern University Political Review

www.nupoliticalreview.com www.nupoliticalreview.com
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All or nothing, “a lot of weight” or “completely ignore”, typical.
 
watfly said:
Missed the point entirely, again. Your claim was that she was just a pretty face. She is actually a very accomplished person. Lawyers also present evidence, doesn't take a biologist to point out a persons lies...she did it with Fauci's own words alone.

Also I'm not going to let a biologist determine whether schools and businesses should be closed. Letting Fauci do it is how we got into this mess.
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As I remember it lord trumpy put the onus of contagious virus containment protocol on the individual states. You know that states rights kinda thing?
 
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dad4 said:
That’s just grandstanding. There was no reason to think delta variant vaccine data would apply unchanged to omicron transmission. Why bother complaining that it didn’t?
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And yet you were one of the biggest fanboys of mandating people to get the jab and were also a fan of vax passports. This despite at the time the evidence showing the virus was blowing through the later variants.

Today you pretend that everyone knew. Many of us did. You however didn't change your opinion despite the evidence very early on showing rather specific things.
 
Pollo Elastico said:
And yet you were one of the biggest fanboys of mandating people to get the jab and were also a fan of vax passports. This despite at the time the evidence showing the virus was blowing through the later variants.

Today you pretend that everyone knew. Many of us did. You however didn't change your opinion despite the evidence very early on showing rather specific things.
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The "science changed" is one of the biggest lies being propagated by the science community. The science didn't change on masks and for everything else "the speculation turned out not to be correct" is way different than the "science changing".
 
watfly said:
Don't need a pail, it comes in bottles.

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I got my "Trump Ice" back in 2016, when he upset HRC and made me a believer of my wife's predictions. TDS starts in the veins and works it's way to the brain, where t will set up shop and live in people's heads rent FREE!!!! This is the kind of political campaign that will put nail in coffin for the Ds. Dude basically will be President again and he's probably shadow boxing Joe and it will in up being three terms. That is the kind of Ice non of us have bruh!! I like t for this reason, he's the Ice man!!!
 
watfly said:
Missed the point entirely, again. Your claim was that she was just a pretty face. She is actually a very accomplished person. Lawyers also present evidence, doesn't take a biologist to point out a persons lies...she did it with Fauci's own words alone.

Also I'm not going to let a biologist determine whether schools and businesses should be closed. Letting Fauci do it is how we got into this mess.
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She completely missed the biology.

It was the rough equivalent of taking a quote about the 1919 flu, showing a graph of 1921 flu cases, and claiming the first quote was a deliberate lie.

That's the work of someone who doesn't know the basic material, but thinks they know everything. Lawyer.
 
So the CDC has finally come around and backed off most of the recommendations they had. They acknowledge that the vax doesnt stop the spread any more, etc.

And yet in DC...the mayor is mandating kids (who have no risk) get vaxxed or else...


DC Mayor: All Unvaccinated Children -- Including The Many, Many Unvaccinated Minority Children In DC -- Will Be Barred From School. And Also, There Will Be No Virtual Learning Offered. They Will Be Doomed to Be Uneducated by Mayoral Edict.
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In fairness, they weren't going to learn in DC schools, anyway. So.

The Daily Signal:

The District of Columbia does not appear to have a contingency plan for unvaccinated students, who are banned from attending schools in person this fall after the first twenty days, according to comments made by Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser Thursday.
During a press conference, Bowser, a Democrat, admitted there are no alternative options, including virtual learning, for students who cannot attend school due to the District's vaccine mandate, meaning unvaccinated children will effectively be left without an education.
Over 40% of blacks ages 12-17 are not vaccinated, according to city data.
The Daily Signal asked Bowser what the plan was for unvaccinated students. Washington, D.C. public schools start Monday.
Bowser responded "They can go to school on Monday. But they need to get their vaccinations... and their families will be alerted as to the dates."
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They have 20 days to get their vaccination certificate, then they to be "removed" from public education.

Updated data from the government's vaccine numbers website shows 47% of the black children in the district ages 12-15 had not completed their primary vaccination series necessary to go back to school in person.
Among black teens aged 16-17, 42% are unvaccinated.
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The mandate also somehow applies to private schools.

But hey, this government school thing is working out great, isn't it?

And all those homeschoolers are just crazy nutters.
 
NATE SILVER: Liberal Elites May Have Pressured Pfizer to Delay Vaccine — Until After 2020 Election.

FiveThirtyEight editor-in-chief Nate Silver made a claim on Twitter that’s getting a lot of attention, quite understandably.
Silver was commenting on Twitter on a Politico article about the Trump Administration pushing for fast-track approval of the COVID vaccine in 2020. It makes perfect sense that you would want to fast-track it, to help people as soon as it was possible.
Silver said, “‘Trump pushed for vaccine approvals too fast’ is the worst possible critique of the Trump administration’s COVID policy. That probably saved a lot of lives. If anything approval should have been faster.”
His next comment, though, was the barn burner. He said that “liberal public health elites” pressured Pfizer to “change its original protocols” and delay that vaccine approval, which “had the convenient side-effect of delaying any vaccine announcement until after the election” That action “deserves more scrutiny,” Silver declared.
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dad4 said:
She completely missed the biology.

It was the rough equivalent of taking a quote about the 1919 flu, showing a graph of 1921 flu cases, and claiming the first quote was a deliberate lie.

That's the work of someone who doesn't know the basic material, but thinks they know everything. Lawyer.
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Well good for you for actually watching it.
 
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