One of the arguments being made here by a few people is the initial downplaying of masks broke down trust between the government entities and the general population. It seems having a stockpile of PPEs that would cover our medical/nursing staff would allow for more transparency and trust in future messaging. Instead it was a shit show out of the gate.
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One of the arguments being made here by a few people is the initial downplaying of masks broke down trust between the government entities and the general population. It seems having a stockpile of PPEs that would cover our medical/nursing staff would allow for more transparency and trust in future messaging. Instead it was a shit show out of the gate.
There were a variety of causes of the failure of the mask stockpile:
1. It was depleted during the H1N1 epidemic. Congress tried to save a penny and didn't replenish it. The Obama admin didn't prioritize replenishing it in their requests.
2. Even at full capacity, the strategic reserve was too small for the whole population anyway. PreCOVID planning always had those masks reserved for medical situations, the military, and the government, and not the population as a whole.
3. China engaged in an orchestrated and secretive buy of the available PPE prior to the world knowing exactly how contagious it was
We have a PPE stockpile.
The questions are things like did we keep it stocked, did we use it when we needed to, and do we have domestic PPE production.
I don't know why I bother since you just spin my words. I didn't say it impacted infertility, I asked a question. That is what a question mark means. We know it impacts the fertility process which begs the question how does it impact actually getting pregnant? We don't know yet because not enough time has passed. Since it impacts the fertility process in some women its reasonable to think it might impact actual fertility.
Right, this is what I'm saying
Obama and Trump admins absolutely should've replenished SNS; hard to justify 10+ years of neglect here. Though I think even having enough just for medical/nursing staff would've helped with transparency a bit. Obviously making sure we weren't dependent on other countries for supply chains would've helped significantly as well. Hope we're not sweeping all of this under the rug.
I knew what angle you were coming from, because you say things in plain English...others not so much.
I suspect we are ignoring it, and that we can addRight, this is what I'm saying
Though I think even having enough just for medical/nursing staff would've helped with transparency a bit. Obviously making sure we weren't dependent on other countries for supply chains would've helped significantly as well. Hope we're not sweeping all of this under the rug.
Biden to your list of Obama and Trump.
Wrong. Just wait dude. Trump push therapeutic and he got mocked by folks like you saying he's stupid for want to inject bleach. Horse dewormer ring a bell? TDS is going strong I see. t can't do anything right, right? Oh boy, just wait.
I bet you $25,000 right now that you will 100% eat that statement with some crow. I am 100% a big fat no!!! Always have been and I will always say no to that. Disaapointed Watty but I pray for you to see the Light someday. Their trying to kill you, wtf up!
Your stuck sitting on fence. I'm like a pit bull trying to get you and Dad is like a fake puppy lying his ass off everyday. I guess you feel safe up on your fence....lol
You guys need to get your head out of the sand. Their normalizing men being a women as normal for a real reason. This never ever happen before until now. Lia is up for "NCAA Women of the Year." This guy in the AF thinks he knows about your health and how to eat right and he took a job a way from real women. You think he's the only man acting as women at high level? Just wait you guys. I will be gone for a few days after tonight so you can continue your ground hog day. I am shocked so many of you are blind. God bless you guys and I hope you start to wake asap. I will never be Pro Choice for the V only Pro life. Karma is coming very big for some. No ability to have kids because you don't want kids to be born. So no kids for you with that attitude. How could I sit on the fence when I know this jab has killed my friends and neighbors. I'm shocked!!!
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So, you do understand where all the lack of trust comes from.
For what it's worth, I don't think I've ever denied that the initial response by our administration to covid-19 set the stage for how the general population responded. I think for me it's never been just Fauci's fault, and I've been able to discern why the Trump administration (including Fauci) took the approach they did (who knows if Trump was more worried about the election versus PPE hoarding). They all knew SNS wasn't going to meet our needs as a country, so they had to downplay everything to prevent hoarding as much as possible. A shit show out of the gates.
I've been through the Birx book now. It basically confirms everything that the Scott Atlas book said happened:
-Trump (and Fauci for that matter) were in denial about what was heading their way. Birx saw it early on, and tried to get people to focus on it, but Trump and his advisors didn't want to believe it was going to happen and thought that like SARS1, it would be contained in Asia
-Birx lied to the admin about 15 days to slow the spread. She sold it that way knowing that 15 days wouldn't be enough, but told the admin it would be a way to get it under control. Trump ate it up because he was desperate to have the issue gone and not ruin his reelection chances. He got played. Birx, not Fauci, was the architect of the lockdowns.
-Birx had a cozy relationship with Pence going way back. Pence was her defensive lineman, giving her cover to enact a pro-restriction agenda. Pence was put in charge of the COVID task force. Pence basically deferred to her running it.
-The reason the lockdowns were structured the way they were was because it had to be sold to Trump that we weren't doing China or even Italy. For example, Birx settled on 10 people per gathering because that would stop superspreader events like weddings and funerals but her real number was zero, but she didn't think it would be palatable to the Trump admin.
-By summer, the jig was up and Trump realized he had been played. Trump sloshed around looking an advisor to help him understand it so brought in Scott Atlas. Scott Atlas' entrance on the seen is why we didn't have further lockdowns (at first informally and then joining the admin). He and Birx were instantly at war and Birx went around, with full cover from Pence, individually to the governors to try and get them to extend the restrictions. Atlas's main deficiency was he didn't know how the bureaucratic game was played, while Birx with years working in government was very adept at it.
-Birx worked to actively undermine the admin's position, entering into an alliance with Fauci and Redfield against Atlas (each pledging to resign if any one of them was fired or moved over). When instructed to change messaging from the admin, she'd often just rework it to hide whatever messaging she wanted included. She practically fesses up and is proud that she worked to undermine the Trump admin's decision from within because she disagreed with them.
Scott is my buddy. You have the Trump thing wrong but someone has to fill in for you guys. The military had two choices, coup or get t in office in 2016. It was Generals who asked Mr. Trump ((Cyrus from Isaiah 45)). Your all watching moving and it's almost over. Soon all of you will have your eyes opened, ears cleared of all the BS wax that was shoved down your head all these years. Dr. Scott is amazing and I love him so much.
The Birx and Atlas books both agree that from the get go Fauci was as clueless as Trump. He had convinced himself it wouldn't be a problem and the Chinese would contain itself. It's why he opposed initially the Navarro travel ban. The early stuff was all Birx.
The books also confirm that early on Trump was in denial and basically got played by the health care wonks into doing stuff he wouldn't want to do. He didn't realize until summer that he had gotten played. He downplayed it because he didn't want to realize that his election chances were probably going to go up in a puff of smoke and that the stock market would crash and the US sent into a recession (one which was avoided only by the massive spending package Congress enacted).
Brix is going to jail
No, because she did everything with the full backing and at least the implicit knowledge of Pence, at least that's what she alleges. Pence, among other issues, has been remarkably silent about all this and his role in it.
Not sure i told you guys all this but back like three years ago I had a dream that America was crying and saying sorry to Trump the Chump. You all have TDS. It's classic to see how you guys are now blaming t again. Don;t fall for it you guys. Were never going back and ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT SOMETHING MUCG BIGGER THAN TRUMP. Please, trust me on this and get your house in order because someone is coming to take over and He has help with him. When darkness comes you will be in despair and be told by the liars you all to listen to that the world is going to be destroyed. It's call the, "The Scare Event."