Vaccine

This is crazy. The whole cruise ship is fully jabbed and over 200 people get Covid and have to sit in hotel in Seattle and make no calls. Fully jabbed is two jabs plus at least 2 boosters and they still get Covid. I am at a lost for words. I think we should do a cruise for folks with no jabs and see how many get Covid.

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Carnival Cruise Ship passengers say COVID overwhelmed ship

Passengers on a Carnival Cruise Ship that docked Tuesday in Seattle say more than 100 people aboard the ship tested positive for COVID-19 and the ship was overwhelmed.
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Desert Hound said:
Imagine if you will those of us who argued that you cannot mandate a drug when there have been no long term studies...and individuals like @Dad here scoffed at that notion.
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Imagine all the science and medical professionals who tried raising these concerns and having discussions, only to be censored, banned, and threatened.
 
MicPaPa said:
Imagine all the science and medical professionals who tried raising these concerns and having discussions, only to be censored, banned, and threatened.
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Imagine taking the jab so you dont get fired and lose your house and now forced to take blood thinner the rest of your life. That's my pals life now. My nephew is also on blood thinner from window attack and my old pastor sister died. Imagine how all these Docs will have to give an answer to pushing the J & J. My other best pay took the J & J and I asked how he was doing and he said he's been having issues with short breath. Dude used to be all into mountain biking and now's he's on, "dont take any chances with all the jabs he took and yes, he took the J & J. Thanks a lot Dad and all the others pushing the jab so you can save your income. This is criminal and wrong. This proves I was right to say no. Radio commercials in OC say take the boosters and jabs. Now they want to go to abortion. These people are sick, just like t said. He knew all before us what they were doing. Military is the only option out of this. Killers live among us!!!
 
Why do commercials say jabs are safe and, "step right up and be next" to win a chance of catching Bells Palsy, Blood clots, myocarditis, or any of the new side effects their just now learning about as each day is over and new information is out. Many have died from this new clotting in the blood. Time to put a stop to all of these jabs until we can learn what's next for those who took these bad jabs. My buddy has been sick for over a week and is not texting me back or taking my calls. Also, people are getting AIDS now more than the 80s and now I hear a new form of Hepatitis they have never heard of is putting people in the ER. I am praying for all of us.

Safe & Effective???
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FDA puts new limits on Johnson & Johnson vaccine due to rare blood clotting condition
Health officials have detected 60 cases of the rare blood clotting condition TTS, nine of which have been fatal
 
crush said:
Why do commercials say jabs are safe and, "step right up and be next" to win a chance of catching Bells Palsy, Blood clots, myocarditis, or any of the new side effects their just now learning about as each day is over and new information is out. Many have died from this new clotting in the blood. Time to put a stop to all of these jabs until we can learn what's next for those who took these bad jabs. My buddy has been sick for over a week and is not texting me back or taking my calls. Also, people are getting AIDS now more than the 80s and now I hear a new form of Hepatitis they have never heard of is putting people in the ER. I am praying for all of us.

Safe & Effective???
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FDA puts new limits on Johnson & Johnson vaccine due to rare blood clotting condition
Health officials have detected 60 cases of the rare blood clotting condition TTS, nine of which have been fatal
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Interesting information:

To date, nearly 17 million Americans have received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Scientists said that if you have already received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, there is no need to be concerned, as the risk of blood clots happens in the days and weeks after you have received your shot.
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Although traditional vaccines have taken years to develop, scientists have harnessed a much faster method for the COVID vaccine.
The technique, used to create both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, uses mRNA — or messenger RNA — to make harmless versions of the spike proteins found on the COVID-19 virus. In earlier vaccines, scientists had to make those proteins in a lab and then transfer them into the vaccine.

With mRNA, our body produces the proteins — a vastly quicker and more efficient process. It does this so well because our body already knows how to make mRNA (and does all the time). mRNA is like a blank piece of paper that our cell nucleus encodes instructions into in order to make proteins that control bodily processes, like hormones. Our cell nucleus then “mails” the mRNA it’s encoded out into the rest of the body. This process happens inside us every moment of the day.

Since the mRNA in the vaccine is not produced by the cell nucleus, where DNA is kept, it never affects our genome in any way. It just joins the stream of other mRNA being sent through our body to produce proteins and regulate our bodies.

That's vastly preferable to letting COVID-19, or any other virus, work its way through our cells
 
This administration is out of control…first she doesn’t condone protesting in front of a superior courts justices house…then she says it’s a fundamental right to make choices about their own bodies and their own healthcare

wait…what? But they can make people get vaccinated? They don’t have a choice what happens to their bodies…wow…if people still don’t think this is about control, they've lost it

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1522330106395602944
 
soccersc said:
This administration is out of control…first she doesn’t condone protesting in front of a superior courts justices house…then she says it’s a fundamental right to make choices about their own bodies and their own healthcare

wait…what? But they can make people get vaccinated? They don’t have a choice what happens to their bodies…wow…if people still don’t think this is about control, they've lost it

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1522330106395602944
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The people have lost their minds. People are going nuts and screaming for their right to abort their baby up until birth. Roe v Wade was not supposed to allow the selling of the baby fetus. They ((the far left)) took abortion way to far and now want mom to have the right to abort right up until birth. Can most of us agree that is crazy and flat out wrong? The same people also scream to groom our kids because they don't have any kids to groom because they decided to abort their kid. Then the same crew is screaming to force our kids to wear a mask and get fully jabbed or no college for them. The demons have been released and all true colors are being revealed. I'm still shocked at the anger and rage in some people that don;t get what they want.
 
soccersc said:
This administration is out of control…first she doesn’t condone protesting in front of a superior courts justices house…then she says it’s a fundamental right to make choices about their own bodies and their own healthcare

wait…what? But they can make people get vaccinated? They don’t have a choice what happens to their bodies…wow…if people still don’t think this is about control, they've lost it

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1522330106395602944
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One is personal, the other directly affects others. You can now return to your disingenuous nutter routine.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
One is personal, the other directly affects others. You can now return to your disingenuous nutter routine.
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Yes, we finally agree on something. Injecting poison in your blood is 100% a personal choice, even if others will fire you. Aborting a baby after it has a heart beat effects the babies future life and then baby dies and then it's organs are sold. TGIFF Husker Du and we finally have something we both like :)
 
As time marches on...we see more and more disastrous results from our quijote like quest to stop the virus.

Masking? Didn't help
Shuttering biz and wiping off the saving of millions didn't help.
Printing money? Highest inflation in DECADES
Kids not going to school. A real fn disaster. Some posters on here...were all for keeping kids out of schools. dad for one was the biggest cheerleader.

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dad4 said:
You tube is a horrible way to distribute information for discussion.

Text source is below. Scroll down for the charts labelled “vaccine effectiveness”.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics

www.ons.gov.uk

The chart there is for symptomatic infection. You need to use hospitalization numbers if you want to make your “it’s only for Pharma” argument. I don’t feel like a Pharma dupe if the jab let me test positive but kept me out of the hospital.
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1. Reliable people like Campbell are great for helping make sense of the data for those of us you regard as STEM morons that you always looked down upon. Oh yeah, I remember, trust the experts, but only those that have the dad4 seal of approval.
2. It's funny how far back your line has fallen back to that you are now at "kept me out of the hospital". If that's the point we are at, then there was no point in vaccinating people who had already had it since their prior infection would "keep them out of the hospital" for the second.
3. It also means there's no point in boosting with the original shot, except in very limited instances of the very elderly and immunocompromised (and I don't mean I have asthma that means I'm immunocompromised....in like I'm in active chemo treatment or have AIDS immocompromised). It also means there was never any point in vaccinating the under 20, and serious consideration should have been given to the 20-30 who were immunonaive.
4. I truly wonder, seeing what's happening in China, and having one domino fall after another (whether the kids in schools, the vaccines, the masks, the inflation, where Sweden/Florida ended up, the wipe down theater) and seeing what's the thought process in your head. It really does fascinate me, because you usually don't see it outside of the context of religion, and having had a ton of conversations with believers, and having encountered some I was never able to get to question, I never really understood it. Now that's something I would pay dollars to understand how the brain can actually do it. I understand the trolls like espola and busker and what motivates them. But even though I don't have a comprehension of it, a little bit of me admires the faithful too.
 
Grace T. said:
1. Reliable people like Campbell are great for helping make sense of the data for those of us you regard as STEM morons that you always looked down upon. Oh yeah, I remember, trust the experts, but only those that have the dad4 seal of approval.
2. It's funny how far back your line has fallen back to that you are now at "kept me out of the hospital". If that's the point we are at, then there was no point in vaccinating people who had already had it since their prior infection would "keep them out of the hospital" for the second.
3. It also means there's no point in boosting with the original shot, except in very limited instances of the very elderly and immunocompromised (and I don't mean I have asthma that means I'm immunocompromised....in like I'm in active chemo treatment or have AIDS immocompromised). It also means there was never any point in vaccinating the under 20, and serious consideration should have been given to the 20-30 who were immunonaive.
4. I truly wonder, seeing what's happening in China, and having one domino fall after another (whether the kids in schools, the vaccines, the masks, the inflation, where Sweden/Florida ended up, the wipe down theater) and seeing what's the thought process in your head. It really does fascinate me, because you usually don't see it outside of the context of religion, and having had a ton of conversations with believers, and having encountered some I was never able to get to question, I never really understood it. Now that's something I would pay dollars to understand how the brain can actually do it. I understand the trolls like espola and busker and what motivates them. But even though I don't have a comprehension of it, a little bit of me admires the faithful too.
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My daughters university next year is not requiring boosters, only the original 2 shots of Moderna and Pfizer, or 1 shot of J&J.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
One is personal, the other directly affects others. You can now return to your disingenuous nutter routine.
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Pretty sure even if you get vaccinated you can still affect others...but its vaccinated people like you that think because they are vaccinated they can't spread it
 
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