Vaccine

Lion Eyes said:
For some, freedom of choice is "my way or the highway".
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That statement itself can be read either way.

Are we talking about people being forced into masks and vaccines, or are we talking about people being forced to accept higher risk public spaces?

We even have matching fake alternatives. Team virus says "stay at home if you're scared of the virus." Team panic says "stay at home if you're scared of the jab.".
 
dad4 said:
That statement itself can be read either way.

Are we talking about people being forced into masks and vaccines, or are we talking about people being forced to accept higher risk public spaces?

We even have matching fake alternatives. Team virus says "stay at home if you're scared of the virus." Team panic says "stay at home if you're scared of the jab.".
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I know people on both sides of the vaccine.
I know of one who died after having received the vaccine.
I know of one who died after deciding not to get the vaccine.
We all had the vaccine discussion and made a decision.
Decisions were made with what was thought best.
I miss them both...
 
dad4 said:
This started with claims that people avoid vaccines because they aren’t very good. I argued that the vaccine seems to do fine, and that the problem is misinformation.

Now you want to change the topic to mask mandates. Not even masks. You insist on changing the topic to mandates.

Let’s stay on topic. Start with vaccines. Are you truly unaware of anyone posting anti-vaccine misinformation?
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For the better part of the first year, the pandemic was loudly and relentlessly used as a political cudgel. (NOTE: Exception BLM riots)

Where might this fit into your "misinformation" narrative?
 
MicPaPa said:
Translation: Anyone who doesn't see it my way is uncaring.

Yawn!
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Price of diesel hits all-time high, straining the trucking industry
A gallon of diesel hit $5.296 on Sunday, according to AAA

I paid $6.89
 
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MicPaPa said:
For the better part of the first year, the pandemic was loudly and relentlessly used as a political cudgel. (NOTE: Exception BLM riots)

Where might this fit into your "misinformation" narrative?
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Blm riots? Public health officials mostly muted themselves. As soon as one side starts calling the other racist, don't expect smart people to do any more than keep their heads down.

Which is why you saw talking heads trying to come up with some reason that a giant outdoor motorcycle rally is a super spreader event but a giant outdoor public march is not.
 
We love you so much. You can sleep in the parking lot and do your drugs right here. Free fentanyl, free pipes and free food, just as long as you get the jab, wear a mask and vote for us. Folks like Dad will feel safe because his neighbors wear mask. This is how rich people treat poor people btw.

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Mike Rowe on gas prices crushing truckers: 'It's happening in real time'
The trucking industry grapples with inflation as diesel prices hit an all-time high

MIKE ROWE: The ones I know aren't. The guys I know in this business... [A] guy said to me the other day, it's like... falling down the stairs in slow motion... We know it's coming. We're watching it happen. It's happening in real time, and it's not just diesel. It's not just gasoline... If you bring it back to food, and tonight's episode is all about beef production in this country, and it's an eye-opener. But you have to talk about fertilizer too... There's no food without fertilizer in this country. The cost of fertilizer is hundreds, hundreds of percent higher than it was. When you combine that with the cost of energy, the average person has now really gotten the memo, but not from the gas pump, from a restaurant, a steak. The cost of a steak is almost two times what it was six, seven months ago.
 
Desert Hound said:
If masks works, and the neighbors are worried, they just have to wear a mask.

The effectiveness of their masks is not dependent upon the use of masks by others.
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Most epidemiologists believe you are wrong in your assessment. Masks work better as source control than as PPE.

I know this will not at all reduce the frequency with which you repeat yourself on this point. Don’t forget to tell us that some non-zero number is actually zero.
 
This is why Fauci has zero credibility. Won't go to Correspondents Dinner because its unsafe, but has no problem hobnobbing at the pre-parties.

I can't stand Trevor Noah but his standup at the dinner was pretty funny and he didn't pull any punches with either party.

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