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Because all the predictions were so spot on? Oh, brother.If the next round is similar to covid, that means a pandemic more like the original Imperial College forecasts, and less like the one we actually saw.
Because all the predictions were so spot on? Oh, brother.If the next round is similar to covid, that means a pandemic more like the original Imperial College forecasts, and less like the one we actually saw.
ICL estimate was 2.2M deaths. Actual deaths were approx 1M.Because all the predictions were so spot on? Oh, brother.
It’s all bs because the only intervention that had substantial and measurable impact was vaccination. If the modeling gods are able to correctly predict when vaccination will be available and how quickly it will be rolled out, then maybe they might have some value instead of just throwing darts at a dartboard. Most of the experts well recall (including Fauci himself) were wrong as to when and how quickly they could be deployed…an idiot like trump was off by a month here or there.Because all the predictions were so spot on? Oh, brother.
There will always be sociopaths that resist any public health measures. Hopefully, they will be dealt with more firmly in the next go-around.
... "and silence any dissent"“put them in the gulags” screamed the saving democracy crowd
So? My point stands. If we had done no NPI in April 2020, 2.2 million dead is a reasonable estimate.Neil Ferguson of Imperial College fame was so worried about Covid that he allowed his girl to break quarantine and go against social distancing rules to come visit him
"If the next round is similar to covid, that means a pandemic more like the original Imperial College forecasts, and less like the one we actually saw."ICL estimate was 2.2M deaths. Actual deaths were approx 1M.
Off by a factor of 2.
Is there some other March 2020 estimate you believe was more accurate?
I think masks and business closures delayed cases until after the vaccine. The vaccine dropped it by half."If the next round is similar to covid, that means a pandemic more like the original Imperial College forecasts, and less like the one we actually saw."
So, masks dropped it by half? Do you believe we won't pursue a vaccine? Also, I'm not sure how comparable one pandemic is to another. Severity, speed of spread, and mutation are rather variable.
Espola is after the believers bro and those who think first with their brain before they inject something in their blood. The two "Paths" have come to a two-way stop. The Sociopaths said no to jabs from the Psychopaths trying to kill off the population so they can have the world as their Oyster. I guess getting fired for saying no to vaccination is not "firm" enough for little psycho and his friends who lie, steal, blackmail, bribe, buy people to cheat and pay folks to spy on others.“put them in the gulags” screamed the saving democracy crowd
You still beating that drum. You mask Nazi’s crack me up.I think masks and business closures delayed cases until after the vaccine. The vaccine dropped it by half.
However, if we have no masks and no lockdowns, that doesn't happen. The vaccine can't help much if the cases happen before the vaccine is ready.
Put another way, the "get sick now" proposal also means "no vaccines until after it's over".
You still beating that drum. You mask Nazi’s crack me up.
Again, you have no idea how the next one will compare to this one. No one does. At least we'll have the perspective of this experience and graph that keeps going around showing infections with and without mask mandates doesn't bode well for mandate religion. Also, we are seeing more and more data on the "side-effects" of the mandates. "Long COVID" includes much more than physical harm. In the highly unlikely event a virus breaks the same way next time, I expect policy will quickly jump to the dichotomy that took months to get to this time. Leaders from the mandate side will make passionate speeches about saving lives after maskless dinner with friends at the French Laundry and go on vacations in mandateless Florida. True believers will continue to see "living" through the lens of "any virus risk is too much" - unless my girl has a game in AZ.Put another way, the "get sick now" proposal also means "no vaccines until after it's over".
Our country is bought bro. Most have no clue their bought and some know but are afraid to lose their wealth and status. Those who stood up to these tyrants got fired, banned, kicked off platforms, no entry to college or events, shamed and some have been killed because they didn't STFU when told to. Others have been bribed and a few have been blackmailed. The blackmail their using is death to a loved one if you don't obey or vote the right way. The "next one" will test us all to the core, especially the fence sitters and those who have worked hard for the American Dream and wanted things to go back to normal and the way things were.Again, you have no idea how the next one will compare to this one. No one does. At least we'll have the perspective of this experience and graph that keeps going around showing infections with and without mask mandates doesn't bode well for mandate religion. Also, we are seeing more and more data on the "side-effects" of the mandates. "Long COVID" includes much more than physical harm. In the highly unlikely event a virus breaks the same way next time, I expect policy will quickly jump to the dichotomy that took months to get to this time. Leaders from the mandate side will make passionate speeches about saving lives after maskless dinner with friends at the French Laundry and go on vacations in mandateless Florida. True believers will continue to see "living" through the lens of "any virus risk is too much" - unless my girl has a game in AZ.
That is the problem. It is a religion for many.Again, you have no idea how the next one will compare to this one. No one does. At least we'll have the perspective of this experience and graph that keeps going around showing infections with and without mask mandates doesn't bode well for mandate religion.
Again, you have no idea how the next one will compare to this one. No one does. At least we'll have the perspective of this experience and graph that keeps going around showing infections with and without mask mandates doesn't bode well for mandate religion. Also, we are seeing more and more data on the "side-effects" of the mandates. "Long COVID" includes much more than physical harm. In the highly unlikely event a virus breaks the same way next time, I expect policy will quickly jump to the dichotomy that took months to get to this time. Leaders from the mandate side will make passionate speeches about saving lives after maskless dinner with friends at the French Laundry and go on vacations in mandateless Florida. True believers will continue to see "living" through the lens of "any virus risk is too much" - unless my girl has a game in AZ.
Type...despite evidence showing masks DONT work...and ....Despite evidence showing masks work...and quite a few studies showing they don't...you still hear...well if only people had masked up it would have made a difference.