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watfly said:
Like clockwork there is that denial of reality.

Enlighten me. What do I think it means and what was it really about?

It was absolutely about parents taking back power because of policies implemented by misguided school officials that were more concerned about woke agendas and power than the welfare of children. Was it just about masks? No. Was it just about the renaming of schools? No. Was it just about the elimination of advanced educational opportunities based on merit? No. Was it just about discrimination against Asians? No. Was it just about school closures? No. It was all those things.

It was not about right or left it was about children and their parents. For fucks sake the recall vote was as high as 79% in favor of recall. That's a referendum like no other.
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Here lazy bones: https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion...-No-San-Francisco-s-school-board-16924385.php

Progressives vote for progressives but when they don’t do a good job progressives do something about it . . . Republicans make Demi-gods out of their incompetents.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
The “SF recall” wasn’t about what you want it to be about and doesn’t mean what you think it does.
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progressive policies are extremely popular . The problem is we just weren’t given enough control to enact them properly

hoping the Dems continue to govern like this
 
dad4 said:
Then someone gathers a mob to attack the capitol building. Logically, they all should be chanting “Lock Him Up!”, but they can’t.
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Actually that is wrong.

R politicians have said trespassers, etc. should be prosecuted.

They however have said it is not or was not an insurrection. Big difference.

The further point many on the right make is there are people in jail in DC who have yet to even go to court. And this despite the fact that so far the people who have been charged have been charged for crimes such as trespassing and disorderly conduct.

So they and people like myself wonder...if those are the charges being pressed, why are these people still in jail and why have they yet to go to court.

So you completely misrepresent what is happening.
 
Good thread. California and Florida had similar rates of infection. Florida's death rate is worse, even when you break it down per million. The chief reason it proposes is boosters (Florida's is the fifth to last in the country for boosting, even though its elderly is highly vaxxed). The one intervention that matters is boosting the elderly. Everything else seems to be noise.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494535371778056216
 
watfly said:
The big difference is the right and lefts response to their riots. The right mostly condemned the siege on Congress, whereas the left remained mostly silent or actually supported the actions of the "summer of love" rioters.

The right has universally condemned the siege on the capitol except for the most diehard Trumpsters like MTG. And those that did it are being prosecuted for doing so. They weren't mainstream Republicans they were idiots that were following a false prophet. (Unfortunately there are some on the right like Graham that has since softened their stance on Trump. I wish the party would kick Trump to the curb. Just because he can win is not a valid reason for supporting him.)

As opposed to the left and its media that supported the rioters or didn't call them out. Recall Chris Coumo that said "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." Kamala paid bail for some of the rioters.

Neither side can take the high road for the events that happened, but the responses to those events are light years different.
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Who on the right actually has the stones to condemn Trump for his seige?

The list is pretty darn slim. And growing slimmer as politicians walk back their position.

Cheney is an exception. And she is paying a very heavy price for her honesty.
 
watfly said:
Ha, ha. An opinion piece from a liberal SF newspaper. I was actually looking for evidence.

Your great on criticism but weak on actually providing facts to support your position.
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So you’re saying it’s not what they say either, imagine that! Lol! . . . and your support for your position?
 
watfly said:
Ha, ha. An opinion piece from a liberal SF newspaper. I was actually looking for evidence.

Your great on criticism but weak on actually providing facts to support your position.
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Telling how quickly Democrats clean house when improprieties or incompetence arise and the stark difference in reaction when similar happens across the aisle.
 
watfly said:
The big difference is the right and lefts response to their riots. The right mostly condemned the siege on Congress, whereas the left remained mostly silent or actually supported the actions of the "summer of love" rioters.

The right has universally condemned the siege on the capitol except for the most diehard Trumpsters like MTG. And those that did it are being prosecuted for doing so. They weren't mainstream Republicans they were idiots that were following a false prophet. (Unfortunately there are some on the right like Graham that has since softened their stance on Trump. I wish the party would kick Trump to the curb. Just because he can win is not a valid reason for supporting him.)

As opposed to the left and its media that supported the rioters or didn't call them out. Recall Chris Coumo that said "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." Kamala paid bail for some of the rioters.

Neither side can take the high road for the events that happened, but the responses to those events are light years different.
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"The right mostly condemned the siege on Congress" eh? What a load of b.s. The GOP's official position is that it "constitutes legitimate political discourse". That is the official platform of the nazi GOP. Not the fringe. It is your party's official party position, as is purging every person in its party who will not bend the knee. That said, it's actually kind of enjoyable seeing the lonely milquetoast yes man, thank you sir may I have another, Mike Pence skulking around trying to walk that fine line between complete emasculation and just ordinary obsequiousness.

Your assertion that Democratic leaders remained silent in response to the Floyd protests is also more b.s. Obama condemned the rioting. So did Biden. So did Pelosi. Meanwhile, Trump is out there begging people to invade the Capitol because he has such a small pee pee he can't taking losing and then he goes and hides in his bunker.

And, of course, there is the fact that one set of protests arose in response to our government murdering people of color - actual oppression in other words. The Canadian bruhaha, on the other hand, is a few white people whining about how wearing a mask over the border is too much for the lungs. Only white privileged people can twist minor inconveniences that are intended to save lives into being the same as murdering people based on their skin color.
 
Grace T. said:
Good thread. California and Florida had similar rates of infection. Florida's death rate is worse, even when you break it down per million. The chief reason it proposes is boosters (Florida's is the fifth to last in the country for boosting, even though its elderly is highly vaxxed). The one intervention that matters is boosting the elderly. Everything else seems to be noise.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494535371778056216
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Now do Arizona. I really want to hear desert hound explain how the highest death rate in the U.S besides Mississippi is so great, how up is down, and no means yes.
 
watfly said:
The big difference is the right and lefts response to their riots. The right mostly condemned the siege on Congress, whereas the left remained mostly silent or actually supported the actions of the "summer of love" rioters.

The right has universally condemned the siege on the capitol except for the most diehard Trumpsters like MTG. And those that did it are being prosecuted for doing so. They weren't mainstream Republicans they were idiots that were following a false prophet. (Unfortunately there are some on the right like Graham that has since softened their stance on Trump. I wish the party would kick Trump to the curb. Just because he can win is not a valid reason for supporting him.)

As opposed to the left and its media that supported the rioters or didn't call them out. Recall Chris Coumo that said "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful." Kamala paid bail for some of the rioters.

Neither side can take the high road for the events that happened, but the responses to those events are light years different.
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Here's the official document of your beloved GOP "mostly condemning the siege on Congress". Not a misleading or snarky meme. No, the official document of the Republican National Committee taking down the only two republican members of Congress who won't get their noses brown.


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GoldenGate said:
Am I getting in the way of you and your friends pretending that a grown man who is acting like a whiny toddler is a martyr? Is wearing a mask too physically demanding for you also? It is truly amazing how pathetic all of you are.
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There ya go, hope you feel better. It's good to see someone using a safe outlet to vent their frustrations...way better than a rx. I commend you for that. You add zero value to any type of discussion but at least you safely self medicate. You may be on to something.
 
watfly said:
It's amazing how left wing policies has turned SF into a complete shit hole, yet GoldenGate and NocalDad continue to be staunch supporters of the D's. Reality seems lost on them. In general reality seems lost on most Dems. Some are seeing the light, but that's generally due to them evaluating their reelection chances and not a good faith change of heart.

The corruption, incompetence and abuse of power keeps on coming for SF.
www.cnn.com

San Francisco rape controversy will have a chilling effect | CNN

If rape survivors believe that the evidence collected in their rape kits could be used against them, that's one more reason on an already-long list to not trust the criminal justice system -- or seek justice at all, argues Jill Filipovic.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

One of the things I find interesting is the misogynistic, or anti-women, tendencies of the left. That doesn't seem very woke.
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I must be in your head somewhere. Not sure how you connected me to this. Is it because I'm anti-school privatization? Or pro-mask, or pro-vax? Do tell, how'd you connect the dots here. Maybe you saw my ballot the last time I voted?

After reading the article you posted, it's hard for me to even understand how you connected that abhorrent behavior to democrats.
 
watfly said:
It's amazing how left wing policies has turned SF into a complete shit hole, yet GoldenGate and NocalDad continue to be staunch supporters of the D's. Reality seems lost on them. In general reality seems lost on most Dems. Some are seeing the light, but that's generally due to them evaluating their reelection chances and not a good faith change of heart.

The corruption, incompetence and abuse of power keeps on coming for SF.
www.cnn.com

San Francisco rape controversy will have a chilling effect | CNN

If rape survivors believe that the evidence collected in their rape kits could be used against them, that's one more reason on an already-long list to not trust the criminal justice system -- or seek justice at all, argues Jill Filipovic.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

One of the things I find interesting is the misogynistic, or anti-women, tendencies of the left. That doesn't seem very woke.
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Did you even read this article? It was your beloved right wing piggies who were engaging in this behavior. You really need to go out of your way to blame the egregious misconduct of your right wing buddies on me.
 
GoldenGate said:
Here's the official document of your beloved GOP "mostly condemning the siege on Congress". Not a misleading or snarky meme. No, the official document of the Republican National Committee taking down the only two republican members of Congress who won't get their noses brown.


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GoldenGate said:
Here's the official document of your beloved GOP "mostly condemning the siege on Congress". Not a misleading or snarky meme. No, the official document of the Republican National Committee taking down the only two republican members of Congress who won't get their noses brown.


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I 100% disagree with this and what they've done to Cheney and Kinzinger. This is the pure partisanship, that I disdain. I also don't condone the Republican's refusal to not respond to the subpoena. Although I don't blame them given the whole Russian investigation debacle.

However, nowhere in what you posted does it promote violence.
 
Grace T. said:
Apparently peacefully protesting in Ottowa is now illegal. No wonder dad4 was pushing his love of Canada the other day!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494613914314809388
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It's great how right wingers whine "this is a nation of laws" whenever someone doesn't follow a law after the government murders black people, but when white people won't obey them it's suddenly "peaceful protest". Like when a black guy causes $1000 worth of damage breaking a window, while costing people $50 million a day is "peaceful protest". The American white right is really feeling the squeeze now that even highly Caucasian Canada won't put up with that shit.
 
watfly said:
I 100% disagree with this and what they've done to Cheney and Kinzinger. This is the pure partisanship, that I disdain. I also don't condone the Republican's refusal to not respond to the subpoena. Although I don't blame them given the whole Russian investigation debacle.

However, nowhere in what you posted does it promote violence.
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That is your party. That is the platform. Don't tell me that telling domestic terrorists that their behavior is "legitimate political discourse" does not promote violence. Don't tell me that purging the party of the only two members who will stand up to fight it does not promote violence. Your assertion that most republicans condemned the siege is complete and utter bullshit. Own it.
 
NorCalDad said:
I must be in your head somewhere. Not sure how you connected me to this. Is it because I'm anti-school privatization? Or pro-mask, or pro-vax? Do tell, how'd you connect the dots here. Maybe you saw my ballot the last time I voted?

After reading the article you posted, it's hard for me to even understand how you connected that abhorrent behavior to democrats.
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My bad, I took your anti-Republican posts as being pro-Democrat.
 
GoldenGate said:
It's great how right wingers whine "this is a nation of laws" whenever someone doesn't follow a law after the government murders black people, but when white people won't obey them it's suddenly "peaceful protest". Like when a black guy causes $1000 worth of damage breaking a window, while costing people $50 million a day is "peaceful protest". The American white right is really feeling the squeeze now that even highly Caucasian Canada won't put up with that shit.
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$1000?
 
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