I wouldn’t expect you to have a problem with your own choices. Most people function that way.
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I wouldn’t expect you to have a problem with your own choices. Most people function that way.
I know of two superspreader events personally that were caused by fully vaxxed people. The first was with the Delta and I've written about it before. Family of ten people at a BBQ...the 3 with natural immunity didn't fall ill. The remainder were all fully vaxxed, some boosted, and almost all got it...all mild except an older fully vaxxed individual (and that one never went critical). Spread outside despite that all except the 3 with natural immunity were wearing masks. 2/3 naturally immune were also fully double vaxxed.
Second was a wedding with about 100 people in attendance with a coworker. Everyone at least attested they were fully vaxxed (hosts didn't check vaccine cards but required everyone on the RSVP to attest they were fully vaxxed (J&J not accepted unless boosted)). All the staff were also required to be vaxxed and supposedly checked by the vendor. Possible an unvaxxed person slipped in despite the firewall, but patient zero was believed to be a double vaxxed individual who started feeling unwell towards the end of the reception and tested positive the next day. A little north than fifty percent of the wedding (including the entire wedding party) came down with COVID. Wedding was outside, reception was indoors.
And then there's the Neatherlands Christmas Party superspreader event. It was confirmed to be an Omicron event where 70 percent of the party attendees and sixty guests and the same restaurant came down with omicron. Because omicron is not in widespread circulation in Europe at that time, it is believed that the patient zero was an individual returning from South Africa.
Might need to tell that to the CDC:
IF YOU
Were exposed to COVID-19 and are up-to-date on COVID-19 vaccinations
No quarantine
You do not need to stay home unless you develop symptoms.
The real world example many are familiar with would be the fully vaccinated household with spread amongst household members.
I have five friends who tested positive for covid. Four were unvaccinated. The fifth lives with one of the four.
So, no. I don’t see everyone getting covid. Not even close.
Interestingly, I see a ton of N95 masks around town and at schools. So that may be a factor, too.
It’s different when Democrats do it
Luke told a story about Jesus and the Ten Lepers. I'll break down the Socal way of Jesus and more for 2022 and the Ten Unvaxed Deplorables. Imagine Jesus cruising down PCH between Palos Verdes and San Pedro. As he was going into the village for a latte, Ten men who were unvaccinated came up to him, but they had to stay at a distance of six feet and wear a mask. They all called out in a loud voice; "Guru, have pity on us." What did the master tell them to do?
I dont believe you. I call you on your lie dad. No way you have any friends who are not jabbed. I call BS. List of 5 contacts please so I can verify if your telling the truth.
what-happened
GOLD
those filth,dirty, unkept natural immunity people..dirtying everything up. Why are you scared of people with natural immunity?
I gotta agree with Crush here. I can't imagine you hanging out with unvaccinated people and if you haven't seen them in 2 years it's hard to believe they still fit the technical definition of "friend"...unless you are talking "old friend" like a college roommate or a facebook "friend" that friends you.
In any case, while I certainly think behavior like N95s might contribute (and those most likely to be careful are probably those that are careful with their vaxxed) from the restaurant data we also know that folks in your neck of the woods are also being a little more distant. As I've written previously, I also think there's something unique we don't fully understand about the area from Monterrey to Vancouver on the Pacific Coast which didn't undergo similar waves to Vermont or Martha's Vineyard....again, my unsubstantiated theory is that it's probably the unique weather which doesn't get overwhelmingly cold like the NE and MW did, or hot like Los Angeles (despite its tough regulations)
Yep, fear of Covid that's what it has to do with.
Yeah but, someone who was unvaccinated had to give it to someone vaccinated before they attended the gatherings so the source of the outbreak was still an unvaccinated person. That's just how it works.
Yeah, seeing the same thing in my neck of the woods. While we know more people than ever who have contracted the virus, the total number of cases in our county is nowhere near the total population. Not even close. So to say "it's everywhere" is a wee bit of an exaggeration and why data and math are important. While you may think it's rampant "with your own eyes", you're probably wrong -- unless you live somewhere with a low vax rate.
My bad, I thought the photo showed her at a table with food, I didn't realize that was the entrance.
Holy crap, what kind of filthy people do you hang out with? I know only one family in our circle of friends or common community that aren't vaccinated, and yes some in their family have gotten Covid, I think the mom twice.
Yes, on the surface and in the shallow water of life, their scared and fearful of Covid. What is the deep reason of the fear? Go deep with me.
Well looking at the data and math, San Diego County is clipping along at 15,000-16,000 "reported" cases a day (although provisional data indicates that might be coming down). I would suspect actual cases are significantly higher. Our previous peak prior to Omicron was 5,000 cases a day. I would certainly consider that rampant. It is everywhere, just not everyone is getting it, although it seems like it.
What's the vax rate down there out of curiosity?
15K per day is about twice what we hit. (once you adjust for pop). No wonder you think everyone has it.
You also have over twice our unvaccinated numbers. We’re at 16%, you’re at 37%. Real stats guys cab figure out whether that pattern holds up.
According to the source below SD is 93% with at least one dose and 80% fully vaccinated. I believe you're Santa Clara? SC is 90% and 84%, so comparable numbers. LA is 78%/70%. San Bernardino and Riverside are in the low to mid 60s for at least one dose and mid to high 50's for fully vaccinated.
San Diego is the 2nd highest % in the state for one dose. Somehow Imperial County is 114%...people from Mexico I suspect, which could also be influencing SD's percentage.
data.news-leader.com
San Diego is the 2nd highest % in the state for one dose. Somehow Imperial County is 114%...people from Mexico I suspect, which could also be influencing SD's percentage.
California COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker
This is your state and county equivalent level look at how many have gotten a dose or doses of the COVID-19 vaccine. Click on a state to see how many vaccines have been administered and you can drill down to the county level and see a bar chart that tracks the running total. Data for this...
data.news-leader.com
The hypocrisy is not so much Palin's -- she has a history of being clueless about important things. The restaurant, however, supposedly required proof of vaccination to enter -- or not, if you are _important_ enough, I guess.