Vaccine

More clown world operations
watfly said:
It seems that its not a matter of if, but when. Bad news is you have Covid, good news you're getting it out of the way so its not hanging over any future plans, vacations etc you may have.

I'm almost to the point that I just want to get it, to get it over with. I'm confident that getting it is more effective than getting a booster. How I haven't gotten it inexplicable (or maybe I have and didn't realize it). Two families in our circle that were the most strict and sanctimonious about Covid protocols have gotten it in the last week or two.
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except for the fact the “powers that be” do not recognize natural immunity when it comes to the definition of “Fully Vaccinated” so if you want to go to Hawaii and you’ve had the initial “vaccine” and recently had Covid, you’ll still need to line up for yet another shot.

Clown world!!!!
 
NorCalDad said:
I never understood how anyone could watch these talking heads (Carlson, Cuomo, Lemon - surely more from FOX, but I avoid that cesspool). They're all so painful to watch. NPR is my go to.
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NPR and NHK for me. Much less sensationalism for the sake of ratings, just news. I like how NHK gives foreign news from an outside, but involved prospective. You see stuff on NHK that would never see the light of day here.
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
More clown world operations

except for the fact the “powers that be” do not recognize natural immunity when it comes to the definition of “Fully Vaccinated” so if you want to go to Hawaii and you’ve had the initial “vaccine” and recently had Covid, you’ll still need to line up for yet another shot.

Clown world!!!!
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Could you steer me to who does recognize natural immunity as pertains to Covid-19 or any of its variants?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
NPR and NHK for me. Much less sensationalism for the sake of ratings, just news. I like how NHK gives foreign news from an outside, but involved prospective. You see stuff on NHK that would never see the light of day here.
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www3.nhk.or.jp

Hokkaido town tests ice carousel in frozen lake | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

Officials in a town in Hokkaido, northern Japan, have conducted a demonstration test of an ice carousel, hoping that it will be a new attraction for winter tourism.
www3.nhk.or.jp www3.nhk.or.jp
 
watfly said:
Primetime on cable "news" is unwatchable for the most part. Maddow is good if you need to take a nap, otherwise unless you enjoy someone repeating the same thing over and over again, she's not worth your time. IMO Fox has gone downhill as a news organization with the loss of Kelly, Shepard and Chris Wallace.
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Rogen News is what the pubs were like before mask mandate.
 
watfly said:
It seems that its not a matter of if, but when. Bad news is you have Covid, good news you're getting it out of the way so its not hanging over any future plans, vacations etc you may have.

I'm almost to the point that I just want to get it, to get it over with. I'm confident that getting it is more effective than getting a booster. How I haven't gotten it inexplicable (or maybe I have and didn't realize it). Two families in our circle that were the most strict and sanctimonious about Covid protocols have gotten it in the last week or two.
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Just give it to me baby!!!!
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Could you steer me to who does recognize natural immunity as pertains to Covid-19 or any of its variants?
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The NCAA, the CDC when it pertains to documentation required for passenger testing before flights... As little O rips through society, this will become more popular.

Certainly not suggesting high risk behavior to get infected, but if you do, and you haven't been vaccinated, then you can play and fly. Very progressive..
 
watfly said:
It seems that its not a matter of if, but when. Bad news is you have Covid, good news you're getting it out of the way so its not hanging over any future plans, vacations etc you may have.

I'm almost to the point that I just want to get it, to get it over with. I'm confident that getting it is more effective than getting a booster. How I haven't gotten it inexplicable (or maybe I have and didn't realize it). Two families in our circle that were the most strict and sanctimonious about Covid protocols have gotten it in the last week or two.
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Yup. I took a ear full at Thanksgiving grub with my vaccinated family for just saying no and then my wife was looked at with the, "shoulda got the jab" from the Jabbers when she fell ill. However, the tide has turned. Today, my wife is alive and well and even feeling better & stronger then before and the others who have all the jabs, are now out for the count. Do not disturb, sick with Omicron from their text.
 
Everyone is getting Omicron to clean out the shit that was forced on so many of my dear friends, who just wanted to keep their jobs, play for YNT, be a nurse to help others and live a normal life that was promised to them when they were born. Nothing wrong with taking jabs, because they believed the Docs, the news, the health & spots pros, the actors and the teachers. What a team they assembled. Pay to play to keep one's job is wrong in soccer and is wrong in life. Were not going to let this ever happen again team America. Let's Make America Free Again!!!! MAFA baby!!!
 
www.yahoo.com

CDC report finds prior infection provided strong protection against COVID-19 in 2021, but experts warn it's 'playing with dynamite' to get sick on purpose

Though vaccination was superior to prior infection during the Alpha wave, the Delta variant changed that, according to new CDC data.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

I know this horse is likely dead from all of the beating. At least the CDC is following up on studies and reporting on them. Plenty of natural and vaccine induced immunity floating around. Many companies are starting to shy away from mandates.
 
what-happened said:
www.yahoo.com

CDC report finds prior infection provided strong protection against COVID-19 in 2021, but experts warn it's 'playing with dynamite' to get sick on purpose

Though vaccination was superior to prior infection during the Alpha wave, the Delta variant changed that, according to new CDC data.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

I know this horse is likely dead from all of the beating. At least the CDC is following up on studies and reporting on them. Plenty of natural and vaccine induced immunity floating around. Many companies are starting to shy away from mandates.
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True that and if your a special person, with a special heart & natural immunity, you can make bank brah. Plus, single men with no jab or tainted blood will be in high demand for all the single ladies.

 
espola said:
The Omicron variant is acting like it is a whole new disease and the vaccines developed for the early variants are not as effective against it. If it is truly less virulent, that might be a prudent course of action for some. I, however, ring two or three of the "at-risk" bells, so that's not a path I would like.

Reminds of when my mother sent us down to play with our friend who had chickenpox so we would get it early (and now I am midway through the shingles protocol).
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I'm not suggesting that anyone go out and purposely get it...but it has crossed my mind.

Not so sure that the vaccine isn't any less effective against Omicron than Delta. Seems a lot of vaccinated people prior to Xmas got Delta. Possibly with Delta it could have just been waning immunity, but I'm skeptical . Omicron clearly doesn't seem to care even if your boosted.

At this point, I'm struggling to see the point in getting boosted myself.
 
watfly said:
I'm not suggesting that anyone go out and purposely get it...but it has crossed my mind.

Not so sure that the vaccine isn't any less effective against Omicron than Delta. Seems a lot of vaccinated people prior to Xmas got Delta. Possibly with Delta it could have just been waning immunity, but I'm skeptical . Omicron clearly doesn't seem to care even if your boosted.

At this point, I'm struggling to see the point in getting boosted myself.
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You see, yaya!!!! I knew you would see the light. Dr. Robert said Omicron is 100% from God and he's a scientist bro. I love scientist who were atheist or agnostic and then one day, "boom, bam, the light goes on" and the blind scientist can now see the light. A scientist who has his eye open to the TRUTH, is a scientist that is worth listening to. Love you bro and welcome to the TRUTH. This is the Great Harvest :)
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Could you steer me to who does recognize natural immunity as pertains to Covid-19 or any of its variants?
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I think his complaint is that people who had a positive test last year are often not exempted from employer vaccine mandates.

I half agree. The flip side is that natural + vax is stronger than either one alone. If your goal is to minimize possible work outbreaks, the shot still helps.
 
dad4 said:
I think his complaint is that people who had a positive test last year are often not exempted from employer vaccine mandates.

I half agree. The flip side is that natural + vax is stronger than either one alone. If your goal is to minimize possible work outbreaks, the shot still helps.
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BS dad. Natural is always the best, 100%. Nice try. Give me my props man. I finally was right for once in my life. Being told I was stupid and a moron took it's toll on me for a long time on this planet. I no stupid and I am super smart. I knew to go all natural.

 
watfly said:
I'm not suggesting that anyone go out and purposely get it...but it has crossed my mind.

Not so sure that the vaccine isn't any less effective against Omicron than Delta. Seems a lot of vaccinated people prior to Xmas got Delta. Possibly with Delta it could have just been waning immunity, but I'm skeptical . Omicron clearly doesn't seem to care even if your boosted.

At this point, I'm struggling to see the point in getting boosted myself.
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Many reputable studies suggest boosting has no impact, especially on omicron. The WHO specifically has publicly stated as such. With that said, their motives for their statement are driven by their quest for wider distribution to the have nots. The Prizer Israeli study shows booster #4 isn't effective.

Anectodally, plenty of people getting omicron after natural immunity + vaccination. Disease is certainly mild, but still not pleasant. I don't know what you can really do to avoid infection at this point beyond 100% isolation. It's also a luck thing. My oldest has the J&J fakey, has been a part of mulitple team outbreaks in college, multiple road trips with later positive kids...on and on.. Not boosted (will not get boosted). Gave her an antibody body test over break... zero...which really doesn't mean much given deeper immunity layers. I'm not concerned with her well being in regards to covid. Many more issues for DDs at that age - injuries on the pitch..life...etc.. Younger DD covid positive very early on , not vaccinated. Has survived multiple school, friend circle, team outbreaks. Antibody test over break..zilch, nada.
 
watfly said:
I'm not suggesting that anyone go out and purposely get it...but it has crossed my mind.

Not so sure that the vaccine isn't any less effective against Omicron than Delta. Seems a lot of vaccinated people prior to Xmas got Delta. Possibly with Delta it could have just been waning immunity, but I'm skeptical . Omicron clearly doesn't seem to care even if your boosted.

At this point, I'm struggling to see the point in getting boosted myself.
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Not true. Go back to the symptomatic case rate chart from last week. Boosted have much lower symptomatic case rates.

watfly said:
It seems that its not a matter of if, but when. Bad news is you have Covid, good news you're getting it out of the way so its not hanging over any future plans, vacations etc you may have.

I'm almost to the point that I just want to get it, to get it over with. I'm confident that getting it is more effective than getting a booster. How I haven't gotten it inexplicable (or maybe I have and didn't realize it). Two families in our circle that were the most strict and sanctimonious about Covid protocols have gotten it in the last week or two.
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What is the point in getting covid, to develop antibodies, to avoid getting covid? Step one is exactly what you hope to avoid in step three.

Good news is that CA seems to have peaked. SCC single day numbers yesterday were down by about 25% from a week ago. Hope it continues.
 
dad4 said:
I think his complaint is that people who had a positive test last year are often not exempted from employer vaccine mandates.

I half agree. The flip side is that natural + vax is stronger than either one alone. If your goal is to minimize possible work outbreaks, the shot still helps.
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how does the vaccine stop outbreaks? They clearly are not stopping anything. If you are concerned for your well being and demand the highest possible form of protection (we think), then get vaxxed. But please stop sayingthe vaccines minimze outbreaks at anyone's place of employment. It's just not true. And don't reference a chart with squiggly lines and, bars, graphs, etc ...Get out and talk to businesses.

Think about how silly this sounds: Mandate vaccines,people lose their jobs...vaccinated population gets sick, goes home...You "can't" hire unvaccinated people and your vaccianted people aren't at work because they are infected. Craziness. even the word infected is being overused.
 
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