Vaccine

[NorCalDad]

Looks like Team Reason has Trump on its side:

Trump pushes back on Candace Owens: ‘People aren’t dying when they take the vaccine’

Former President Trump in an interview with conservative media personality Candace Owens pushed back over her claims undermining the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.In a Tuesday episode of …

thehill.com

<getting popcorn while I watch heads explode>

Seriously do applaud Trump for being vocal about this.

 

[crush]

As if we needed further confirmation of our advocacy media and the abuse of power in our COVID leadership. Bad behavior in leadership = more division. This will continue the erosion of Fauci's credibility and influence. There will still be plenty of people who will support him because he believes in wearing masks indefinitely. To some, nothing else is as important as it feeds into their fears, and his other actions including lying about supporting gain of function research and stifling dissent aren't considered. Remember the Cuomo's? Again, the higher a monkey climbs, the more his ass shows.

 

[crush]

Looks like Team Reason has Trump on its side:

Trump pushes back on Candace Owens: ‘People aren’t dying when they take the vaccine’

Former President Trump in an interview with conservative media personality Candace Owens pushed back over her claims undermining the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.In a Tuesday episode of …

thehill.com

<getting popcorn while I watch heads explode>

Seriously do applaud Trump for being vocal about this.

Yay Trump. I never voted for t dumb dumb. That's why those of us who didnt vote for over 30 years are now pissed off. We don;t follow a man like you do. You actually follow the wind and find people to tell you what you want. You got t now bro. He will be King Cyrus sooner then you think and you will kneel again sucker!!!

 

[what-happened]

What has he lied about? And did you and will you vote for trump? Did trump ever lie?

You really do kneel at the alter.

Let's start with gain of function reasearch. He is a very adept liar.

Did trump lie? of course he lied about stuff, at that level, they all lie. Did I vote for trump? unfortunately I didn't vote for trump. In retrospect, voting for trump should have been the way to. Voting trump out of office to lower the temperature of discourse in this country hasn't worked. If anything it's gotten worse. Fortunately, upcoming elections should help, as people realize how much worse off this country is today.

Back to fauci, you are likley one that think it's ok to tell a noble lie. Don't you remember the mask lies? Do a bit of research into his AZT days and how those trials progressed, how they went to market, etc. Check out his position on ART. Before 2020, he was just another corrupt scientist privately and quitely ensuring big pharma profitability. He's aligned to many powerful companies and sits on the Gates Foundation council. It's not your fault, you don't have an understanding of how that world operates, many/most don't.

So yes, he's a liar, but a very good one. He's very bright and has been in the trenches for some time. He's almost impossible to get rid of.

but carry on.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Using hospitalizations as a proxy, from the SA study I posted earlier, it appears among the vaxxed hospitalizations are about 80% lower than with the Delta....unvaxxed about 20%-45% (depending on if you screen out prior natural immunity).

I believe this study and one other that is also positive w.r.t. hospitalization is now posted on CNN. The headline is:

"Researchers find Omicron had 10 times the proportion of reinfection cases compared to Delta. Here's what else two early studies say." I have to laugh that they bury the good news. No doubt protecting us from ourselves.

"Omicron is associated with a two-thirds reduction in the risk of Covid-19 hospitalization compared with Delta, suggests one study, released online Wednesday as a working paper by researchers at the University of Edinburgh in the United Kingdom. That research was based out of Scotland."

"The other paper, posted Tuesday to the online server medrxiv.org, suggests that people with Omicron infections have had 80% lower odds of being admitted to the hospital compared with Delta infections. But once a patient was hospitalized, there was no difference in the risk of severe disease, according to that research, based out of South Africa."

Here's what early studies say about how Omicron compares to Delta

Countries around the world are canceling or restricting indoor events and activities as cases of Covid-19, fueled by both the Delta and Omicron variant, spike. Follow here for the latest news updates.

www.cnn.com

 

[Grace T.]

Sure. If you delete all things that look different, you are left with things that look the same.

People far, far smarter than you have already studied whether masks and distance work. They are telling you yes. If you’re too stubborn to understand what they mean, that’s your problem.

Let me get my Orwellian translator out that my kid gave me for Christmas. It's a wonder!

"Sure"= "Nope!"

"If you delete all things that look different, you are left with things that look the same"= "I like it when I remove things that are different (like housing density and a Los Angeles type variant when I'm explaining why Los Angeles, despite having outdoor mask mandates, had a poor record re California and the rest of the world), I don't like it when you do it (like comparing just the Delta and Omicron waves and neglecting the prior ones, even though its acknowledge the Delta and Omicron are more transmissible and therefore NPIs are less likely to have any effect)"

"People far, far smarter than you"= "I'm doing the subtle put down thing again. Notice the double far and that I use smarter instead of educated".

"They are telling you yes"= "I'm doing my usual appeal to authority/experts things, but only the experts I like"

"If you're too stubborn to understand what they mean"= "again, I use the word understand instead of accept because I want to use a subtle putdown"

"that's your problem"= "but even though its your problem I'm not going to stop harranging people for not following the experts and in the process make myself feel all superior. Besides you really need to just shut up and accept what they tell you."

 

[crush]

Wow, t just got my pal to go for the jab. He was holding out because of the things I was saying and he was scared by my tone of warning. He's a great guy who will make $170,000 this year and plans to retire in 5 more years. He's got plans to retire Bali to relax and be treating like a King. He deserves it for all his hard work. He told me just now that it's safe to take because Mr. Booster says so. I do like that t said no mandates and no kids should be wearing a fucking mask. If we can all agre to leave folks like me alone and stop putting mask on the kids, well then we might have a chance. BTW, i just watched t back in the day that he would never take a V so who the fuck knows. Were getting in mind control part of the physop. I see who follows t and their now getting the jab because they follow man. I dont judge my pal at all and if my dd said she wants it, then she can. It's her life and my sons life to choose whatever they want to put in the veins in order to get a job and go to college and play soccer.

 

[crush]

"If you're too stubborn to understand what they mean"= "again, I use the word understand instead of accept because I want to use a subtle putdown"

Never, ever submit to anyone asking you if you "understand." Once you agree, you are under their authority. Always change it on them and say, "Yes, I interstand you completely.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Looks like Team Reason has Trump on its side:

Trump pushes back on Candace Owens: ‘People aren’t dying when they take the vaccine’

Former President Trump in an interview with conservative media personality Candace Owens pushed back over her claims undermining the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.In a Tuesday episode of …

thehill.com

<getting popcorn while I watch heads explode>

Seriously do applaud Trump for being vocal about this.

... and having the vaccines as fast as we did. I laughed at the quote "I came up with three vaccines". I suppose that's nothing compared to the utterances coming out of our current President but still reminded me of Al Gore.

 

[Grace T.]

Looks like Team Reason has Trump on its side:

Trump pushes back on Candace Owens: ‘People aren’t dying when they take the vaccine’

Former President Trump in an interview with conservative media personality Candace Owens pushed back over her claims undermining the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines.In a Tuesday episode of …

thehill.com

<getting popcorn while I watch heads explode>

Seriously do applaud Trump for being vocal about this.

1. Most of us on Team Reality think taking the vaccine is a good idea, and absolutely if you are over 30 and haven't already had it. It's the one thing I think almost all of us can agree on.
2. You rather he not and just play up to his base? I'm glad he did it, and even though I'm not a fan, applaud him for it. It's the most useful thing that can be done to get his reluctant base over it.
3. He makes clear though "it's still there choice". Many of us who think the vaccines are a good thing aren't into mandates, especially in light of the omicron that it does little to stop community spread.

 

[crush]

... and having the vaccines as fast as we did. I laughed at the quote "I came up with three vaccines". I suppose that's nothing compared to the utterances coming out of our current President but still reminded me of Al Gore.

T is so full of himself that these clowns loved t before he ran. Look at all the tapes. They were kissing his ass all the way to the bank. As soon as he decided to be Cyrus, all the little back stabbers got their knives out and ripped into him. The kiss assers trun their back on the boss. This guy is not the boss to fuck with and he will bring pain to the ass kissers. No more ass kissing allowed on the new earth. Look at how fast Espola and The Husler went for Liz. Now that t has agreed to their terms, their all in one fucking tent together, where they all belong. I do not fault anyone for taking a jab or two based on the opportunist trying to make a buck in this shit. It's sad how fast people stab folks in the back.

 

[crush]

1. Most of us on Team Reality think taking the vaccine is a good idea, and absolutely if you are over 30 and haven't already had it. It's the one thing I think almost all of us can agree on.
2. You rather he not and just play up to his base? I'm glad he did it, and even though I'm not a fan, applaud him for it. It's the most useful thing that can be done to get his reluctant base over it.
3. He makes clear though "it's still there choice". Many of us who think the vaccines are a good thing aren't into mandates, especially in light of the omicron that it does little to stop community spread.

Grace T, we are not a part of his fucking base. WTF up!!!!

 

[crush]

I know what's next you guys and its only going to get harder for us free thinkers to think outside the box. These fools think we were a part of Mr. T's base???? Seriously, this is so fucked because no mater what, they will label me a t supporter. It's more like t is trying to join the right group and at this point, that's going to be up to the Real Boss. Oh boy you guys, you all have much to learn. I'm sorry for coming on hard on some you. I'm so fucking competitive in fairness that watching how fast people kneel and kiss ass a ring is insane. Wow, the earth is changing. I told my wife we need to find a safe place to get a way as everyone fights for power & control. I already know my pals who think I should have freedom of choice will also tell me to get jabbed now because t finally caved into the demands. Now Grace T is happy and likes t. You all can have a wonderful Christmas together. Dont forget your boosters. This time next year is so easy to predict.

 

[Grace T.]

This Scientist Created a Rapid Test Just Weeks Into the Pandemic. Here’s Why You Still Can’t Get It.

Irene Bosch developed a quick, inexpensive COVID-19 test in early 2020. The Harvard-trained scientist already had a factory set up. But she was stymied by an FDA process experts say made no sense.

www.propublica.org

Further on the testing shortage....

I think people are overthinking this. The explanation is pretty straight forward: they want to be in charge of quality control and the count and therefore went all in on public instead of at home testing....if you test at home no guarantee it is accurate and it doesn't go into the official tally.

How omicron broke Covid-19 testing

Rapid tests are sold out everywhere, and help might not come until next year.

www.vox.com

 

[NorCalDad]

1. Most of us on Team Reality think taking the vaccine is a good idea, and absolutely if you are over 30 and haven't already had it. It's the one thing I think almost all of us can agree on.
2. You rather he not and just play up to his base? I'm glad he did it, and even though I'm not a fan, applaud him for it. It's the most useful thing that can be done to get his reluctant base over it.
3. He makes clear though "it's still there choice". Many of us who think the vaccines are a good thing aren't into mandates, especially in light of the omicron that it does little to stop community spread.

Reading comprehension @grace -- re-read my whole post.

Most of you on Team Confused don't know which way is up. You don't even know what you're arguing anymore. Here Trump, who Team Confused probably thought was on their side, basically shuts down one of Team Confused biggest grifters.

Team Reason doesn't want mandates -- they just want people to do the right thing. Team Confused is a bunch of trolls, crazy right wingers, and others influenced heavily by tweets from god knows who.

 

[Grace T.]

Reading comprehension @grace -- re-read my whole post.

Most of you on Team Confused don't know which way is up. You don't even know what you're arguing anymore. Here Trump, who Team Confused probably thought was on their side, basically shuts down one of Team Confused biggest grifters.

Team Reason doesn't want mandates -- they just want people to do the right thing. Team Confused is a bunch of trolls, crazy right wingers, and others influenced heavily by tweets from god knows who.

I disagree people don't know what they are arguing anymore. That's just you dumping on folks (whether anti-vaxxer, or pro vax but anti-mandate) that you disagree with. It's good to know Trump is pro vax but anti-mandate.

"Team Reason doesn't want mandates"== you've just defined yourself outside of the left-wing pro-mandate camp and there are a lot of them. If you say you are not one of them, all the better and you are welcome to a Team Reality button.

 

[NorCalDad]

Oh and Team Confusion, can I suggest the following theme song? (It's actually really good):

 

[Brav520]

Just “ do the right thing “

Just get the vaccines and all the boosters and we promise to leave you alone

I’m sure “just do the right thing “ will stop at vaccines

 

[crush]

Reading comprehension @grace -- re-read my whole post.

Most of you on Team Confused don't know which way is up. You don't even know what you're arguing anymore. Here Trump, who Team Confused probably thought was on their side, basically shuts down one of Team Confused biggest grifters.

Team Reason doesn't want mandates -- they just want people to do the right thing. Team Confused is a bunch of trolls, crazy right wingers, and others influenced heavily by tweets from god knows who.

Moist of you are all on Team Lie. That's why team confused is confused, because our team is shocked with how much you guys lie to stay ahead. This is 100% my last Christmas here. I will let out what I have left and i will never bother any of you ever agian. You have college soccer too losers!!! Oh Norcal and Golden Gate, thanks for ruining our country. It's all yours you liars and cheaters. Everyone of you are now on record. You made your beds. I came to warn you guys. See ya booster boys!!!

 

[crush]

Oh and Team Confusion, can I suggest the following theme song? (It's actually really good):

Fuck off!!!