Vaccine

The graphs are during the delta wave. The bay area was and is far more restrictive vs So Cal.

Mask usage is substantially higher in the bay area during this same period vs So cal as well.

Showing vax status to get into bars/restaurants is far more common in the bay area vs So Cal

And yet during delta and with the start of the omicron what do you see happen?

It all looks about the same doesn't it?
LA and SF is hard core Hound. I went up last month and you cant enter any place without a mask and now vaxx. SF is all in too. Notice the first Omicron flew into SF airport. I have all the answers and see through all this. At this point in the game, I trust no one. I'm afraid to say that is as easy as it gets going forward. The double speak liars talking right now is too much for me. In times of war, you can lie. I forgot about that. War is not for the faint of heart. I dont like this anymore.
 
What has he lied about? And did you and will you vote for trump? Did trump ever lie?
EVERYONE IS A LIAR. Just like the Doc who lied all the time to my dd. Just be honest about the lying and then were all liars dumb dumb. Hey, were all liars and cheaters, how's that Mr. Husler.
 
Well, PCR test is the better test. The guy who invented the test is dead. Now they have new test that Bill made. Oh joy, what will life bring us this Winter Hound?
 
The graphs are during the delta wave. The bay area was and is far more restrictive vs So Cal.

Mask usage is substantially higher in the bay area during this same period vs So cal as well.

Showing vax status to get into bars/restaurants is far more common in the bay area vs So Cal

And yet during delta and with the start of the omicron what do you see happen?

It all looks about the same doesn't it?
Sure. If you delete all things that look different, you are left with things that look the same.

People far, far smarter than you have already studied whether masks and distance work. They are telling you yes. If you’re too stubborn to understand what they mean, that’s your problem.
 
I can live with a mask mandate if people feel better about not showing their face or seeing my smile. I will only do that when I'm in a public place. The jab and booster mandate is one big no!!! No no no no no no no no never and never again.
 
On CBS last month, Dr. Fauci said Republicans who criticize him are “really criticizing science, because I represent science. That’s dangerous.” He isn’t “science.” And it’s also dangerous for scientific officials to mobilize to quash dissent, without which it’s easy to make tragic mistakes. A scientific debate over pandemic policy was and still is in the public interest, especially during a once-in-a-century plague.

Focused protection of nursing homes and other high-risk populations remains the policy road not taken during the pandemic. Perhaps this strategy wouldn’t have prevailed if a debate had been allowed. But it isn’t enough to repeat, as Dr. Collins did on Fox News Sunday, that advocates are “fringe epidemiologists who really did not have the credentials,” and that “hundreds of thousands of people would have died if we had followed that strategy.”

More than 800,000 Americans have died as much of the country followed the strategy of Drs. Collins and Fauci, and that’s not counting the other costs in lost livelihoods, shuttered businesses, untreated illnesses, mental illness from isolation, and the incalculable anguish of seeing loved ones die alone without the chance for a family to say good-bye.

Rather than try to manipulate public opinion, the job of health officials is to offer their best scientific advice. They shouldn’t act like politicians or censors, and when they do, they squander the public’s trust.

As if we needed further confirmation of our advocacy media and the abuse of power in our COVID leadership. Bad behavior in leadership = more division. This will continue the erosion of Fauci's credibility and influence. There will still be plenty of people who will support him because he believes in wearing masks indefinitely. To some, nothing else is as important as it feeds into their fears, and his other actions including lying about supporting gain of function research and stifling dissent aren't considered. Remember the Cuomo's? Again, the higher a monkey climbs, the more his ass shows.
 
As if we needed further confirmation of our advocacy media and the abuse of power in our COVID leadership. Bad behavior in leadership = more division. This will continue the erosion of Fauci's credibility and influence. There will still be plenty of people who will support him because he believes in wearing masks indefinitely. To some, nothing else is as important as it feeds into their fears, and his other actions including lying about supporting gain of function research and stifling dissent aren't considered. Remember the Cuomo's? Again, the higher a monkey climbs, the more his ass shows.
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Looks like Team Reason has Trump on its side:


<getting popcorn while I watch heads explode>

Seriously do applaud Trump for being vocal about this.
Yay Trump. I never voted for t dumb dumb. That's why those of us who didnt vote for over 30 years are now pissed off. We don;t follow a man like you do. You actually follow the wind and find people to tell you what you want. You got t now bro. He will be King Cyrus sooner then you think and you will kneel again sucker!!!
 
What has he lied about? And did you and will you vote for trump? Did trump ever lie?
You really do kneel at the alter.

Let's start with gain of function reasearch. He is a very adept liar.

Did trump lie? of course he lied about stuff, at that level, they all lie. Did I vote for trump? unfortunately I didn't vote for trump. In retrospect, voting for trump should have been the way to. Voting trump out of office to lower the temperature of discourse in this country hasn't worked. If anything it's gotten worse. Fortunately, upcoming elections should help, as people realize how much worse off this country is today.

Back to fauci, you are likley one that think it's ok to tell a noble lie. Don't you remember the mask lies? Do a bit of research into his AZT days and how those trials progressed, how they went to market, etc. Check out his position on ART. Before 2020, he was just another corrupt scientist privately and quitely ensuring big pharma profitability. He's aligned to many powerful companies and sits on the Gates Foundation council. It's not your fault, you don't have an understanding of how that world operates, many/most don't.

So yes, he's a liar, but a very good one. He's very bright and has been in the trenches for some time. He's almost impossible to get rid of.

but carry on.
 
Using hospitalizations as a proxy, from the SA study I posted earlier, it appears among the vaxxed hospitalizations are about 80% lower than with the Delta....unvaxxed about 20%-45% (depending on if you screen out prior natural immunity).
I believe this study and one other that is also positive w.r.t. hospitalization is now posted on CNN. The headline is:

"Researchers find Omicron had 10 times the proportion of reinfection cases compared to Delta. Here's what else two early studies say." I have to laugh that they bury the good news. No doubt protecting us from ourselves.

"Omicron is associated with a two-thirds reduction in the risk of Covid-19 hospitalization compared with Delta, suggests one study, released online Wednesday as a working paper by researchers at the University of Edinburgh in the United Kingdom. That research was based out of Scotland."

"The other paper, posted Tuesday to the online server medrxiv.org, suggests that people with Omicron infections have had 80% lower odds of being admitted to the hospital compared with Delta infections. But once a patient was hospitalized, there was no difference in the risk of severe disease, according to that research, based out of South Africa."

 
Sure. If you delete all things that look different, you are left with things that look the same.

People far, far smarter than you have already studied whether masks and distance work. They are telling you yes. If you’re too stubborn to understand what they mean, that’s your problem.

Let me get my Orwellian translator out that my kid gave me for Christmas. It's a wonder!

"Sure"= "Nope!"

"If you delete all things that look different, you are left with things that look the same"= "I like it when I remove things that are different (like housing density and a Los Angeles type variant when I'm explaining why Los Angeles, despite having outdoor mask mandates, had a poor record re California and the rest of the world), I don't like it when you do it (like comparing just the Delta and Omicron waves and neglecting the prior ones, even though its acknowledge the Delta and Omicron are more transmissible and therefore NPIs are less likely to have any effect)"

"People far, far smarter than you"= "I'm doing the subtle put down thing again. Notice the double far and that I use smarter instead of educated".

"They are telling you yes"= "I'm doing my usual appeal to authority/experts things, but only the experts I like"

"If you're too stubborn to understand what they mean"= "again, I use the word understand instead of accept because I want to use a subtle putdown"

"that's your problem"= "but even though its your problem I'm not going to stop harranging people for not following the experts and in the process make myself feel all superior. Besides you really need to just shut up and accept what they tell you."
 
Wow, t just got my pal to go for the jab. He was holding out because of the things I was saying and he was scared by my tone of warning. He's a great guy who will make $170,000 this year and plans to retire in 5 more years. He's got plans to retire Bali to relax and be treating like a King. He deserves it for all his hard work. He told me just now that it's safe to take because Mr. Booster says so. I do like that t said no mandates and no kids should be wearing a fucking mask. If we can all agre to leave folks like me alone and stop putting mask on the kids, well then we might have a chance. BTW, i just watched t back in the day that he would never take a V so who the fuck knows. Were getting in mind control part of the physop. I see who follows t and their now getting the jab because they follow man. I dont judge my pal at all and if my dd said she wants it, then she can. It's her life and my sons life to choose whatever they want to put in the veins in order to get a job and go to college and play soccer.
 
"If you're too stubborn to understand what they mean"= "again, I use the word understand instead of accept because I want to use a subtle putdown"
Never, ever submit to anyone asking you if you "understand." Once you agree, you are under their authority. Always change it on them and say, "Yes, I interstand you completely.
 
Looks like Team Reason has Trump on its side:


<getting popcorn while I watch heads explode>

Seriously do applaud Trump for being vocal about this.
... and having the vaccines as fast as we did. I laughed at the quote "I came up with three vaccines". I suppose that's nothing compared to the utterances coming out of our current President but still reminded me of Al Gore.
 
Looks like Team Reason has Trump on its side:


<getting popcorn while I watch heads explode>

Seriously do applaud Trump for being vocal about this.

1. Most of us on Team Reality think taking the vaccine is a good idea, and absolutely if you are over 30 and haven't already had it. It's the one thing I think almost all of us can agree on.
2. You rather he not and just play up to his base? I'm glad he did it, and even though I'm not a fan, applaud him for it. It's the most useful thing that can be done to get his reluctant base over it.
3. He makes clear though "it's still there choice". Many of us who think the vaccines are a good thing aren't into mandates, especially in light of the omicron that it does little to stop community spread.
 
... and having the vaccines as fast as we did. I laughed at the quote "I came up with three vaccines". I suppose that's nothing compared to the utterances coming out of our current President but still reminded me of Al Gore.
T is so full of himself that these clowns loved t before he ran. Look at all the tapes. They were kissing his ass all the way to the bank. As soon as he decided to be Cyrus, all the little back stabbers got their knives out and ripped into him. The kiss assers trun their back on the boss. This guy is not the boss to fuck with and he will bring pain to the ass kissers. No more ass kissing allowed on the new earth. Look at how fast Espola and The Husler went for Liz. Now that t has agreed to their terms, their all in one fucking tent together, where they all belong. I do not fault anyone for taking a jab or two based on the opportunist trying to make a buck in this shit. It's sad how fast people stab folks in the back.
 
1. Most of us on Team Reality think taking the vaccine is a good idea, and absolutely if you are over 30 and haven't already had it. It's the one thing I think almost all of us can agree on.
2. You rather he not and just play up to his base? I'm glad he did it, and even though I'm not a fan, applaud him for it. It's the most useful thing that can be done to get his reluctant base over it.
3. He makes clear though "it's still there choice". Many of us who think the vaccines are a good thing aren't into mandates, especially in light of the omicron that it does little to stop community spread.
Grace T, we are not a part of his fucking base. WTF up!!!!
 
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