Vaccine

[Grace T.]

dad wants to mandate vaccines. Do they work vs the O? I don't know but mandate everyone over 18 that cant run a 6 minute mile to get vaxxed.

And yet what are we finding?


A new study out of Columbia University says the Omicron variant is “markedly resistant” to vaccines and boosters might not do much to help, spelling bad news for the country as Omicron spreads and COVID-19 cases rise nationally.

‘Striking’ vaccine resistance in Omicron variant: Columbia University

A new study out of Columbia University says the Omicron variant is “markedly resistant” to vaccines and boosters might not do much to help, spelling bad news for the country.

nypost.com

My colleagues are down with the big 0...spouses now too....bad flu so far (which is what they mean by "mild").....all triple vaxxed.

 

[dad4]

You tell me

I think Cheney is a principled person with whom I disagree on several issues.

I wish we had more like her in politics, on both sides.

 

[GoldenGate]

I will take that as a "yes" that they're dead in the water.

That is one way to deflect that you're a liar and misrepresenting that the big bad federal government is making you get vaccinated.

 

[Grace T.]

It has everything to do with you and grace buying into a politicized argument that covid is a nothing burger. But you can’t say that, because it’s hard to argue that 800,000 deaths is nothing.

It's not that it's a nothing burger. It's that the cost/benefit does not justify some of the policies you are advocating: whether masks, school closures, vaccine mandates or lockdowns.

 

[watfly]

Covid deaths among those under 12 are quite rare. As you said, not very relevant.

But you’ve got the numbers wrong for community spread, at least for delta. This article puts the reduction at around 50%:

What is the vaccine effect on reducing transmission in the context of the SARS-CoV-2 delta variant?

COVID-19 vaccines that have obtained WHO emergency use listing appear to have high efficacy against severe disease and death, but lower efficacy against non-severe infections, and emerging evidence suggests that protection against non-severe disease declines faster following vaccination than...

www.thelancet.com

Cutting transmission in half among the currently unvaccinated is enough to essentially eliminate delta in the US. That one is relevant. Delta is still killing about one person per minute in the US.

Omicron? Still waiting on data.

50% is poor and is clearly not enough to prevent widespread infection.

 

[dad4]

Ouch.. that will lead to school shutdowns. None too surprised here.

I will not be surprised if schools open 2-4 weeks late after break.

Depends on whether Omicron causes mass hospitalizations. Even if it happens, the high transmission rate means the case spike should be short.

 

[crush]

My colleagues are down with the big 0...spouses now too....bad flu so far (which is what they mean by "mild").....all triple vaxxed.

I heard a rumor my neighbor down the street just went down for the count with the Big O. Were all a part of a dog walkers club and he has not been seen in a few days. Other neighbor told me the bad news. His name is Niko, please pray for him. I saw sim a week ago and he told me he felt like shit. Triple Vaxed as well because he trusts his health pros. I got Rona back in Jan 20, 2020 up in Kirkland, WA. Then I think I got the Delta and I believe I got Omicron a few weeks ago. I have never felt stronger in my life and I mean that. Old pal saw me and he did the double take and said, "you keep getting thinner." I was so encouraged by his encouragement and the props of losing weight. I tell you all it's because I eat fruits, veggies, salads, nuts and Thai. No booze either. I meditate early in the morning as the Son helps me rise above politics and division. Imagine if you all will a place where honesty, openness and transparency ((HOT)) rule the land. Truth & Justice is the Law of the Land and and and no more cheating and no more disease and hate Imagine all the people in love with each other.

 

[watfly]

That is one way to deflect that you're a liar and misrepresenting that the big bad federal government is making you get vaccinated.

I will take that as a complement coming from king of deflection and pretend enemies.

 

[crush]

I will not be surprised if schools open 2-4 weeks late after break.

Depends on whether Omicron causes mass hospitalizations. Even if it happens, the high transmission rate means the case spike should be short.

South Africa is doing just find and that's where Omicron was born. Did Omicron take it's self to America and the UK? Notice the states Omicron was first detected? Man, fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on the cheaters. Fool me three times the lady then it's all bets off. What a cheater & liar you have become.

 

[what-happened]

50% is poor and is clearly not enough to prevent widespread infection.

That number will quickly grow, Omicron will outcompete delta in the next few weeks. With poor vaccine performance against Omicron, cases will continue to climb. Cross fingers and hope we follow same hospitalization trend as SA. While Delta will still impact some, soon Omicron will become the dominant strain. Not neccessarily a bad thing.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

Desantis is just mini-t.

The before and after t is a complete makeover

The problem with Ron DeSantis' mini-Trump pose | CNN

The Florida governor has absorbed the former president's style of politics, and can deliver an approximation of his showmanship in a much younger package. That makes him a threat, writes Ruth Ben-Ghiat. Whatever DeSantis's future plans for his mini-Trump brand, he might take heed of the fates of...

www.cnn.com

 

[dad4]

50% is poor and is clearly not enough to prevent widespread infection.

Ask anyone who actually understands the science. For Delta, your gut is just wrong. A 50% reduction to delta transmission would nearly eliminate the disease in the US.

For Omicron, a 50% reduction would merely flatten the curve a bit.

 

[GoldenGate]

I heard a rumor my neighbor down the street just went down for the count with the Big O. Were all a part of a dog walkers club and he has not been seen in a few days. Other neighbor told me the bad news. His name is Niko, please pray for him. I saw sim a week ago and he told me he felt like shit. Triple Vaxed as well because he trusts his health pros. I got Rona back in Jan 20, 2020 up in Kirkland, WA. Then I think I got the Delta and I believe I got Omicron a few weeks ago. I have never felt stronger in my life and I mean that. Old pal saw me and he did the double take and said, "you keep getting thinner." I was so encouraged by his encouragement and the props of losing weight. I tell you all it's because I eat fruits, veggies, salads, nuts and Thai. No booze either. I meditate early in the morning as the Son helps me rise above politics and division. Imagine if you all will a place where honesty, openness and transparency ((HOT)) rule the land. Truth & Justice is the Law of the Land and and and no more cheating and no more disease and hate Imagine all the people in love with each other.

How do you feed your children? Mooching off the state?

 

[crush]

That number will quickly grow, Omicron will outcompete delta in the next few weeks. With poor vaccine performance against Omicron, cases will continue to climb. Cross fingers and hope we follow same hospitalization trend as SA. While Delta will still impact some, soon Omicron will become the dominant strain. Not neccessarily a bad thing.

Hey dude, this Joe guy is not to be trusted. Basically, when he speaks, think the opposite of what he is telling you bro. For example, yesterday he said death was coming this Christmas to us who were not jabbed. He said our Holiday will be a surge of darkness. I walk and live in the light. I'm not perfect but I live HOT everyday. This one boomerang has me concerned for all my friends who got third shots and have told me their get more and more as long as their doctor tells them to take boosters. Every three months seems like a little too much but I guess once this stuff hits your veins, you want more and more.

 

[what-happened]

Hey dude, this Joe guy is not to be trusted. Basically, when he speaks, think the opposite of what he is telling you bro. For example, yesterday he said death was coming this Christmas to us who were not jabbed. He said our Holiday will be a surge of darkness. I walk and live in the light. I'm not perfect but I live HOT everyday. This one boomerang has me concerned for all my friends who got third shots and have told me their get more and more as long as their doctor tells them to take boosters. Every three months seems like a little too much but I guess once this stuff hits your veins, you want more and more.

Grandpa Joe just needs some hot cocoa and a blanket. And don't speak to him close when it's cloe to bedtime, he gets cranky.

 

[crush]

The Great "GG" as arrived. He can only be in one place at a time. Go away monster man who chose wrong instead of right. It's that simple of a game.

 

[watfly]

The before and after t is a complete makeover

The problem with Ron DeSantis' mini-Trump pose | CNN

The Florida governor has absorbed the former president's style of politics, and can deliver an approximation of his showmanship in a much younger package. That makes him a threat, writes Ruth Ben-Ghiat. Whatever DeSantis's future plans for his mini-Trump brand, he might take heed of the fates of...

www.cnn.com

Notice that there is only passing mention of Covid policy, other than that no mention of policies, only personality. Right now the Dem's can't compete on policy (current movement away from anti-police policies is a step in the right direction), so they have to go with the ad-hominem angle.

Character matters, although this is more of a personality attack, but policies matter more.

 

[watfly]

Ask anyone who actually understands the science. For Delta, your gut is just wrong. A 50% reduction to delta transmission would nearly eliminate the disease in the US.

For Omicron, a 50% reduction would merely flatten the curve a bit.

You stick with numbers, I will stick to reality.

 

[dad4]

Grandpa Joe just needs some hot cocoa and a blanket. And don't speak to him close when it's cloe to bedtime, he gets cranky.

I knew I was voting for a senile grandpa back in November. He is declining in office, just as I knew he would.

Give us a decent alternative. The last time, my only other choice was an overweight man-child incapable of basic civil behavior. His giant temper tantrum on Jan 06, 2021 only reinforces my opinion of the man.

 

[what-happened]

I knew I was voting for a senile grandpa back in November. He is declining in office, just as I knew he would.

Give us a decent alternative. The last time, my only other choice was an overweight man-child incapable of basic civil behavior. His giant temper tantrum on Jan 06, 2021 only reinforces my opinion of the man.

Why would we deliberatly vote for someone we know is going to fail miserably/dangerously. JAN 6 is certainly a divisive topic, one hyped up by both sides of the aisle. The characterization on both sides has been to the detriment of our country.

With that said, our democracy is based on choices, you made yours. No we are suffereing the consequences of even greater incompetence than the previous administration. I'm no trump advocate but things have gotten much worse. The odds on getting trump 2.0 during the next cycle are increasing.