it’s because both teams View each other as causing actual harm. Remember kill grandma and dad4s accusations here about passing on bad medical advice? On team panic you guys have been actively, for one thing, screwing with the kids and robbing them of their childhoods for what may very well turn out to be little reason (especially given how wrong team panic has been about things from day 1)
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it’s because both teams View each other as causing actual harm. Remember kill grandma and dad4s accusations here about passing on bad medical advice? On team panic you guys have been actively, for one thing, screwing with the kids and robbing them of their childhoods for what may very well turn out to be little reason (especially given how wrong team panic has been about things from day 1)
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Kill grandma? Guess that was before I jumped on the thread.
kickingandscreaming
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Oh, the good times you have missed.
kickingandscreaming
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Hahaha!
The Covid Children’s Crusade
In a sane era, no ethics review board would allow doctors to bribe young children to undergo a treatment with unknown dangers and minuscule benefits. But medical ethics are just one more casualty of the Covid pandemic, as Bill de Blasio cheerfully demonstrated at a recent press conference. New...www.city-journal.org
In a sane era, no ethics review board would allow doctors to bribe young children to undergo a treatment with unknown dangers and minuscule benefits. But medical ethics are just one more casualty of the Covid pandemic, as Bill de Blasio cheerfully demonstrated at a recent press conference. New York’s mayor announced that children aged five and older would get $100 for being vaccinated against Covid—and then he made a direct pitch to those too young to appreciate the size of the city’s bribe.
“It buys a whole lot of candy,” the mayor explained.
This is insane!!!
You're still assuming that all ten cases were independent.
If those ten people were in the same room, it's not unlikely at all.
If you want to know whether breakthrough infections are unusual, take a look at Watfly's Minnesota page or Espola's CDC page. Much better evidence than some Canadian Hockey team. And it's numeric, instead of merely "rare/not rare".
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Why do you assume they are not?
We have had now over a yr and a half of watching teams and covid.
College teams hang out and yet we really haven't seen a large number on any one team go down.
Same thing on the pros where they spend considerable time together.
I lean towards breakthrough because we know the vaxx effectiveness drops rapidly.
"Kill grandma" was never a claim by either side.
It was your attempt to mock anyone who pointed out that high rates of community spread would lead to more deaths among the elderly.
That’s a dog face dirty lie. The word “grandma” was used by several posters on this forum not to mention on other internet places like Twitter. Even if the word grandma wasn’t used the accusation was thrown around using other words Such as elderly. The sentiment was clear: people on team panic accused us of recklessly endangering the elderly. I myself used the mocking term because I was accused of wanting to kill my kids grandparents.
Rare is the term the cdc is using which is why I’m challenging you on it. You back them or not?
it doesn’t matter if they were all in one room or not. If the shot is failing 40% of the time and this is not the only case, then that’s not rare. Yousay That it doesn’t mean breakthroughs are 40%. That is true. But if they were rare 40%would be highly unlikely
Bribery is the only thing the Left has left. When your policies suck (that's a technical term) then you have to pay people off. At least the Right is more creative when they do it. This is an all time low and another assault on parental rights.The Covid Children’s Crusade
In a sane era, no ethics review board would allow doctors to bribe young children to undergo a treatment with unknown dangers and minuscule benefits. But medical ethics are just one more casualty of the Covid pandemic, as Bill de Blasio cheerfully demonstrated at a recent press conference. New...
When did this become an issue for the "Left"? Isn't this the Trump Vaccine?
kickingandscreaming
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I believe Husker/EOTL used "abuela"
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My error? interesting take.
"Breakthrough infections. I found that the Minnesota health department was tracking it (which I posted), but I really couldn't find much besides that."
So?
The original sentiment was spot on. Failure to reduce transmission did lead to higher deaths among the elderly.
I know it makes people feel uncomfortable. That doesn’t mean it is false.
Well if this holds up this is a complete disaster. Breakthrough infections both due to the Delta and waning immunity with time no where in the vicinity of 'rare". Natural immunity is as robust as vaccination but also fading with time. Protection against severe disease also not as robust as previously thought and waning with time. Antibody response in 90%+ of the UK population over 18, no herd immunity. Herd immunity is a chimera. The virus is not only endemic but will cause a not minimal amount of hospitalization and death for some time to come.
Well if this plays out that's the whole ball of wax. We're down to just a handful of options: the pills finally turn this thing around, boosters (which get mandated and the resulting social unrest....but that assumes the booster immunity doesn't fade....if double infection natural immunity doesn't do it it's hard pressed logically to think a vaccine booster will do it), just accept this is the state we are stuck with for some time to come at least until more perfect vaccines can be developed.
I have now no doubt that the definition of fully vaccinated is going to be changed to must be boosted.
There's also a possible dystopian nightmare on the horizon....the situation requires repeated boosters and they are unable to either roll out the pills or they aren't as effective as thought. At that point, I think much of the population says Fit and we have active civil conflict which will dwarf the scope of the current protests. Not saying that it's likely....just that it's now on the table as one possible future.
The bleakest thing about it is as we near the 2 year mark, just short of accepting our fate and moving on, this is unlikely to end even by the 3rd year mark if this holds up.
Well if this plays out that's the whole ball of wax. We're down to just a handful of options: the pills finally turn this thing around, boosters (which get mandated and the resulting social unrest....but that assumes the booster immunity doesn't fade....if double infection natural immunity doesn't do it it's hard pressed logically to think a vaccine booster will do it), just accept this is the state we are stuck with for some time to come at least until more perfect vaccines can be developed.
I have now no doubt that the definition of fully vaccinated is going to be changed to must be boosted.
There's also a possible dystopian nightmare on the horizon....the situation requires repeated boosters and they are unable to either roll out the pills or they aren't as effective as thought. At that point, I think much of the population says Fit and we have active civil conflict which will dwarf the scope of the current protests. Not saying that it's likely....just that it's now on the table as one possible future.
The bleakest thing about it is as we near the 2 year mark, just short of accepting our fate and moving on, this is unlikely to end even by the 3rd year mark if this holds up.
Hüsker Dü
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I remember all I got from the doctor for being a good boy and taking my shot was a lollipop!
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When was I talking about breakthrough infections and the MN health department? You must have me confused with someone else.
Besides, "breakthrough" infections are so circa AUG 2021. Only media talking heads and their worshippers use this silly term. They are infections and should be treated as such. The virus is continuing to circulate, increasingly amongst the vaccinated crowd. The whole waning thing is a thing. If you've had your "shots" and haven't been boosted...well, you may be subjected to a "breakthrough" infection. Or you can hunker down, wait until you get boosted, and jam on for 4-6 months or so, then hunker down, get boosted...and....well, you see the drill..
Boosters for life or leave our kingdom. Jabs & Boosters look to wane away from 90% effectiveness to 70% after 6 months. Dr. Fraud says you need to boost up around 6 month period to get the Mix in your blood cells at the highest level. Basically, if you want to play in our play pin, you need to jab and boosters forever. You must obey & submit to those WHO know best for your life.
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