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Grace T. said:
Wow you just really proved my point didn’t you. The snobbery and meritocratic resentment just drips from your post. You sound just like my entitled high school honors class sneering at the presumptuous slacker that dared run for class president

yeah they are all equal. That’s the point. You never know where genius can come from.

and as for my reading materials, as stated (and as I’ve posted from) before, I read a broad gamut from the nation and guardian on one end, to the American greatness and Ben Shapiro on the other. I follow Scott Gottlieb and joe Rogan.
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After all the bragging about your accomplishments, why do you still have an inferiority complex?
 
Grace T. said:
Wow you just really proved my point didn’t you. The snobbery and meritocratic resentment just drips from your post. You sound just like my entitled high school honors class sneering at the presumptuous slacker that dared run for class president

yeah they are all equal. That’s the point. You never know where genius can come from.

and as for my reading materials, as stated (and as I’ve posted from) before, I read a broad gamut from the nation and guardian on one end, to the American greatness and Ben Shapiro on the other. I follow Scott Gottlieb and joe Rogan.
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I feel no shame in believing in merit.

Besides, within science, you do know where genius can come from. It comes from the people who took the time to learn the prerequisites.

For example, next year’s Nobel Prize in Chemistry will go to a chemist. Or maybe a biochemist. The Nobel Prize in Chemistry will probably not go to some random guy on Twitter who never took a chemistry class.

Similarly, when I take pharmaceuticals, I take the ones whose safety and efficacy was tested by biostatisticians. Perhaps you like to roll the dice a little more, and choose to ingest chemicals based on the advice of Twitter.
 
dad4 said:
I feel no shame in believing in merit.

Besides, within science, you do know where genius can come from. It comes from the people who took the time to learn the prerequisites.

For example, next year’s Nobel Prize in Chemistry will go to a chemist. Or maybe a biochemist. The Nobel Prize in Chemistry will probably not go to some random guy on Twitter who never took a chemistry class.

Similarly, when I take pharmaceuticals, I take the ones whose safety and efficacy was tested by biostatisticians. Perhaps you like to roll the dice a little more, and choose to ingest chemicals based on the advice of Twitter.
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Even within particular fields there are apostates. and again as we’ve discussed these plucky outsiders bested the so-called experts on the Middle East wars, the 2008 crisis and now covid.

Notice you aren’t even defending knowledge but “merit”. Merit means you deserve your status and respect because you think you earned it. It’s gross, it’s pompous and it’s this attitude which got you trump. The problem with the meritocracy is that it is more concerned with self preservation than actual service.
 
Grace T. said:
Even within particular fields there are apostates. and again as we’ve discussed these plucky outsiders bested the so-called experts on the Middle East wars, the 2008 crisis and now covid.

Notice you aren’t even defending knowledge but “merit”. Merit means you deserve your status and respect because you think you earned it. It’s gross, it’s pompous and it’s this attitude which got you trump. The problem with the meritocracy is that it is more concerned with self preservation than actual service.
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Jordan Peterson has a cool theory about this too. He thinks all society is structured on the basis of status (it comes from the days where reproductive selection meant everything). Money power fame athlete ability intelligence awards all play into status. The meritocracy is a way of maintaining that status. That’s why believers in that meritocracy will ultimately fall back on censorship, derision and ultimately authoritarianism to preserve it…because it’s an illusion…so threats to it (like trump) need to be squished.
 
Grace T. said:
Even within particular fields there are apostates. and again as we’ve discussed these plucky outsiders bested the so-called experts on the Middle East wars, the 2008 crisis and now covid.

Notice you aren’t even defending knowledge but “merit”. Merit means you deserve your status and respect because you think you earned it. It’s gross, it’s pompous and it’s this attitude which got you trump. The problem with the meritocracy is that it is more concerned with self preservation than actual service.
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Inside-out logic.
 
Grace T. said:
Jordan Peterson has a cool theory about this too. He thinks all society is structured on the basis of status (it comes from the days where reproductive selection meant everything). Money power fame athlete ability intelligence awards all play into status. The meritocracy is a way of maintaining that status. That’s why believers in that meritocracy will ultimately fall back on censorship, derision and ultimately authoritarianism to preserve it…because it’s an illusion…so threats to it (like trump) need to be squished.
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Cocktail-party psychology (and sociology).
 
espola said:
Cocktail-party psychology (and sociology).
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yes and no. I remember my college biology class touched on this even before Jordan Peterson popularized it. They couldn’t teach that class today at that college without getting cancelled. Peterson teased out his theories in his college psychology/sociology lectures which were recorded and then went viral. It’s not my area but it is a legitimate line of thought that Peterson has brought to the conservative cocktail party circuit.
 
watfly said:
More prog rock. No thanks. Maybe a technically better drummer, too clinical whereas Moon had way more rock n roll soul, energy and charisma. (which unfortunately contributed to his demise).
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There's only one greatest drummer. John Henry Bonham
 
dad4 said:
I feel no shame in believing in merit.

Besides, within science, you do know where genius can come from. It comes from the people who took the time to learn the prerequisites.

For example, next year’s Nobel Prize in Chemistry will go to a chemist. Or maybe a biochemist. The Nobel Prize in Chemistry will probably not go to some random guy on Twitter who never took a chemistry class.

Similarly, when I take pharmaceuticals, I take the ones whose safety and efficacy was tested by biostatisticians. Perhaps you like to roll the dice a little more, and choose to ingest chemicals based on the advice of Twitter.
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Were those “pharmaceuticals” mandated?
 
My boy Deano is a great drummer too. Not the GOAT, but fun guy to hang with back in high school. Here is with Nick Hernandez ((Common Sense)) playing at LBHS. Taylor Hawkins from Foo Fighters as well :)

 
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