Vaccine

Maybe you are not looking in the right place --

Thanks for supporting my case! We don’t have to look for a “get your Vax and do your part” campaign.
 
You are a liar.


If you want to know why vaccines get more attention in the media however, it is because the crazy people are only claiming the vaccine doesn't work and is even dangerous, not that riding a Peloton and eating fish and vegetables doesn't work and is dangerous.
And you’re just a moronic troll…so I guess we are even…Oh wait…how does your google skills make my statement false? They are burying these stories rather than pushing them to the forefront (making my case, not breaking it) which makes my “moronic troll” accusation that much more credible…thanks!

To your second point, why not advertise, if your a vac skeptic or just anti-vax, here is another way you can “do your part”. But I figure that wouldn’t fit your narrow minded vision.
 
The Anti-Immune movement is now also the Anti-science movement that doesn't believe in RCT's.

IKR. I don't know why people don't understand that natural immunity protects 100% of all unvaccinated people who don't die or suffer long term health issues from Covid. So obvious.
 
Incentivize weight loss by charging our airfare according to our weight. Instead of Gas tax, have a fat tax because your weight burns more gas and accelerates global warming. Sell exercise equipment that charges Tesla batteries to power your home. Take 6 vitamin D gels a day. Get your daily dose of quercetin's via a nice 10 oz. glass of Tempranillo. Eat 6 portion controlled meals a day, 2 hours apart. In other words, don't be a slug. Virus's are happy to heat you people up.
I can see Homer Simpson sitting there pondering his next move to decrease his risk. "I can start exercising, eat healthier foods, and drink less alcohol or, I can try to force others to do something I already did. Hmmmm."
 
That's interesting because in SD County the highest vaccinated race/ethnicity group are Hispanics at 74.5%. Asian is next at 70.8%, White 64.1% and African American at 46.3%. (note that not all vaccinations have been identified by race and percentages are actually higher since SD County is overall 78.2% vaccinated.)
That's great for SD county. I haven't seen the latest this week but 7 days ago CA was sitting at around 30% vaccination rates for the hispanic community. Good to see it trending up. Plenty of politcis around vaxx/anti vaxx. The reality is in many places it's not about the politics but rather the outreach.
 
The reporting last spring was well beyond avoiding fat shaming.

We were so afraid of offending overweight people that we wound up withholding critical medical information from them.
Yeah, it was case hyping like it is now. San Diego more than doubled cases yoy but is at .007 for IFR while last Sept. 15th there were less cases pre-vax, max mask, and an IFR of .017. Btw overweight people knew what they were dealing with. No critical info. was being witheld.
 
The resources we are using vs Covid 19 compared to everything else is just out of wacked and not balanced. Picking only one thing a only focusing on that is misguided

What are the leading causes of death in the US?
  • Heart disease.
  • Cancer.
  • Unintentional injuries.
  • Chronic lower respiratory disease.
  • Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases.
  • Alzheimer's disease.
  • Diabetes.
And what are we doing about those?

How about we spend equal or any where near what we are on Covid-19 and testing on some of the above.

If its really about health how about a change? Less for just COVID-19 and more to address the above.
 
The resources we are using vs Covid 19 compared to everything else is just out of wacked and not balanced. Picking only one thing a only focusing on that is misguided

What are the leading causes of death in the US?
  • Heart disease.
  • Cancer.
  • Unintentional injuries.
  • Chronic lower respiratory disease.
  • Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases.
  • Alzheimer's disease.
  • Diabetes.
And what are we doing about those?

How about we spend equal or any where near what we are on Covid-19 and testing on some of the above.

If its really about health how about a change? Less for just COVID-19 and more to address the above.
For 2020, Covid goes in the #3 slot on your list. Just above unintentional injuries and below cancer.


It will probably be #3 for 2021 as well, even without delta. The Jan-March numbers were that bad.

Without a major public health effort, covid would have been the #1 cause of death in both years.

So, not as misguided as you say. Covid was, and remains, a significant public health problem.
 
Highly vaccinated areas aren’t seeing all that many cases. There is no such things as “a casedemic in a bunch of under 12s.”.

The places with the high case rates are the same as the paces with the low vax rates.



and these are vaccine + masks



Yeah, I know....it's always in the definition....you consider "highly vaccinated" as the 90s. It will be interesting. Places like NYC, Madrid, Singapore, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Boston should, between natural immunity and vaccination, be in the low 90s (excluding children under 12) by October/November. Do they get spared a winter wave?

As we've discussed, I think it's really a function about whose right about fading immunity: the Israelis, Fauci & Co. or the English.
 
For 2020, Covid goes in the #3 slot on your list. Just above unintentional injuries and below cancer.


It will probably be #3 for 2021 as well, even without delta. The Jan-March numbers were that bad.

Without a major public health effort, covid would have been the #1 cause of death in both years.

So, not as misguided as you say. Covid was, and remains, a significant public health problem.
Without a major public health effort for heart disease and cancer, COVID will never be #1 or #2 for that matter. If COVID did become 1 or 2, that would make your major public health effort not so major. The Anti-immune system movement is anti-liberty and anti-human rights.
 



and these are vaccine + masks



Yeah, I know....it's always in the definition....you consider "highly vaccinated" as the 90s. It will be interesting. Places like NYC, Madrid, Singapore, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Boston should, between natural immunity and vaccination, be in the low 90s (excluding children under 12) by October/November. Do they get spared a winter wave?

As we've discussed, I think it's really a function about whose right about fading immunity: the Israelis, Fauci & Co. or the English.
Herd immunity threshold is 1-1/R. Total pop, not just 12+.

You can’t just say ‘we have a 60% vax rate, why isn’t it over?”. If you have a 60% vax rate and the disease has R=8, then you are not there yet.

SCC look good only because we have over 70% vaccinated, and we have significant prior infections, and we are still using masks, and we kept other NPI. Even then, our cases decline only slowly.
 
Herd immunity threshold is 1-1/R. Total pop, not just 12+.

You can’t just say ‘we have a 60% vax rate, why isn’t it over?”. If you have a 60% vax rate and the disease has R=8, then you are not there yet.

SCC look good only because we have over 70% vaccinated, and we have significant prior infections, and we are still using masks, and we kept other NPI. Even then, our cases decline only slowly.

So if I read you correctly you are banking on the 5-12 vaxx (and/oor infection running through that group prior to winter) to end it, and you are also banking on there being negligible waning from vaccine immunity (e.g. Fauci/Israelis are wrong)?
 
Much to my parents pulling out their hair, I was much more into the horsey ribbons. Horsey ribbons almost 100X as expensive as soccer trophies.

Aha. It looks like now we know how Grace T. has managed to not work in her adult life: mooching off her parents to maintain her privileged lifestyle. Back in the day they paid for equestrian, and now they pay for everything Grace T.?
 
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