Vaccine

[Bruddah IZ]

Covid vaccine passports scrapped for winter by Boris Johnson

Boris Johnson will announce this week that he is scrapping plans that would have required vaccine passports for entry to nightclubs, cinemas and sports grounds.

On Tuesday, the prime minister will announce plans to try to keep Covid under control over the winter. He will say that he has abandoned the proposed compulsory certification scheme, which would have forced venues to check people’s vaccine status.

 

[crush]

The latest report from the UK very clear for the past 14 days, 53% of new Delta infections are among fully vaxxed compared to unvaccinated and 67% of deaths now in fully vaccinated. Dr. Andrew Pollard said the jab isn't stopping transmission & the focus should be on dev nations.

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Good night Bruddah IZ. These are times unlike any time in history. I feel blessed to be alive as a time such as now. Get ready for some amazing and crazy ass times. What kind of popcorn you like? I got me some tasty old fashion pop with extra butter bruddah

 

[Bruddah IZ]

How about a mandate for people to take care of themselves:

1. healthy BMI
2. healthy diet
3. daily exercise for at least 20 min.

You would all be less anti-liberty, anti-immune system.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Many hospitals demand that employees with prior COVID disease get vaccinated, despite already having stronger longer lasting immunity. If hospitals cannot get the medical evidence right on this one, how can we trust them with other aspects of our health?
Kulldorff Quote Tweet

In Israel, vaccinated individuals had 27 times higher risk of symptomatic COVID infection compared to those with natural immunity from prior COVID disease [95%CI:13-57, adjusted for time of vaccine/disease]. No COVID deaths in either group. https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

 

[dad4]

Or maybe spare the flight attendants by not masking really small kids, particularly when some adults around them are using the masks only for take off and landing. Again the us is out of touch here in comparison to the rest of the world.

there isn’t as asthma exception btw for the simple reason that it would exempt over 10% of passengers

Why do you take it for granted that adults get to ignore the mask rules?

You start by assuming that we all do our best to make the rules unworkable, and then complain that the rules don't work.

 

[younothat]

How about a mandate for people to take care of themselves:

1. healthy BMI
2. healthy diet
3. daily exercise for at least 20 min.

You would all be less anti-liberty, anti-immune system.

Done for me but 1-3 not happen in the USA.

Getting more people out of cars; walking, running, biking, investing in outdoor infrastructure, alt forms of transport; biking, PEV would be a good thing.

In Holland bigger cities you see up to 75% of people using bikes instead of cars to get around. USA is such a car culture I dunno if we will really ever invest enough in alt forms of transportation or infrastructure, paths, lanes, incentives, etc.

 

[Kicker4Life]

How about a mandate for people to take care of themselves:

1. healthy BMI
2. healthy diet
3. daily exercise for at least 20 min.

You would all be less anti-liberty, anti-immune system.

Based on the statistics, #1 alone would reduce Covid related severe cases and deaths dramatically!

 

[kickingandscreaming]

I will never fly again until people change being scared. The mask is back and now people are going around like this dude.

Man with "I'm Vaccinated" Badge on Harrasses Unmasked Patriot in Store

His wife is a doctor who specializes in infectious disease. Who are we to judge him? . Download the video: http://short.katflys.com/d/9QFR

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It's getting real chippie again with mask/vax dude vs no mask and mine your business mama bears at stores. How sad we have men acting like this. I know deep deep down what the truth is but no one can handle the real truth. Carry on with this and that and i will focus on why I have to do to survive. Maybe one of these days we can meet up on the road somewhere bro. I love to drive btw You're a good dad and did the right thing for you and your family. I respect that and you respect me, and I respect that you respect that. What I mean is, we can disagree to disagree on vax or no vax and still have respect from one man to another man. Respect is the key word. Thanks for respecting me man, I love you a lot and feel your kindness through the computer. Espola and that GG dude, hell no!!!

Respect is in short supply @crush. The MO for many has become, dehumanize those that disagree and use whatever power is available to "correct" their behavior.

 

[Grace T.]

Why do you take it for granted that adults get to ignore the mask rules?

You start by assuming that we all do our best to make the rules unworkable, and then complain that the rules don't work.

Because I’ve seen it with my own eyes on airplanes. If you allow food and drink some adults cheat and just wear it for take off and landing. It’s the same as masks in restaurants at bars restaurants and theaters. It’s security theater. Tormenting the 2 year old is doing nothing if you aren’t enforcing it against the adults…particularly as the Mom here is trying to comply while the adult is actively cheating

security theater with collateral damage is worse than actually sticking to your principles and enforcing rules that make sense (but hey then you are back to no indoor dining). Or you know you could get in line with the rest of the world and at least exempt kids five and under (a 2 year old having about as much control as a moderately autistic 12 year old)

 

[NorCalDad]

Because I’ve seen it with my own eyes on airplanes. If you allow food and drink some adults cheat and just wear it for take off and landing. It’s the same as masks in restaurants at bars restaurants and theaters. It’s security theater. Tormenting the 2 year old is doing nothing if you aren’t enforcing it against the adults…particularly as the Mom here is trying to comply while the adult is actively cheating

security theater with collateral damage is worse than actually sticking to your principles and enforcing rules that make sense (but hey then you are back to no indoor dining). Or you know you could get in line with the rest of the world and at least exempt kids five and under (a 2 year old having about as much control as a moderately autistic 12 year old)

The sad truth to all of this is if everyone just got vaccinated the mask stuff wouldn't be nearly as important. Even skipping those under 12. The numbers across the US in hospitals would plummet and security theatre wouldn't really be a reaction. Unfortunately that's not the place we're in.

 

[crush]

The sad truth to all of this is if everyone just got vaccinated the mask stuff wouldn't be nearly as important.

BS!!! The truth will come out soon and oh boy, you sir are in for a big suprise. What you think truth is will not be the truth. Listen to the wrong folks this time. The sad truth is people like you fell for it. If everyone would just take the bat shot all this would be over. Go back to riding your bike bro and say hi to Golden Gate for me. Love you but you r wrong again.......

 

[crush]

Espola, I see all your avatars on the board and out in force. Come on here and debate me like a man you loser......lol. Stop hiding behind different avatars you cheater....lol! What POD you have become. Grace T schools you all day & night and now has to take a break from all your bs with dad.

 

[espola]

Because I’ve seen it with my own eyes on airplanes. If you allow food and drink some adults cheat and just wear it for take off and landing. It’s the same as masks in restaurants at bars restaurants and theaters. It’s security theater. Tormenting the 2 year old is doing nothing if you aren’t enforcing it against the adults…particularly as the Mom here is trying to comply while the adult is actively cheating

security theater with collateral damage is worse than actually sticking to your principles and enforcing rules that make sense (but hey then you are back to no indoor dining). Or you know you could get in line with the rest of the world and at least exempt kids five and under (a 2 year old having about as much control as a moderately autistic 12 year old)

Using terms such as "security theater" really tells us a lot about you.

 

[Grace T.]

Using terms such as "security theater" really tells us a lot about you.

Putting the words security theater in quotes really tells us a lot about you.

 

[Grace T.]

The sad truth to all of this is if everyone just got vaccinated the mask stuff wouldn't be nearly as important. Even skipping those under 12. The numbers across the US in hospitals would plummet and security theatre wouldn't really be a reaction. Unfortunately that's not the place we're in.

Some people may not need to get vaccinated (particularly if they have a confirmed PCr test and a relatively high antibody count). We are really arguing about the roughly 15% of the population that haven’t been exposed

plus we know the vaccine is not full proof to stop symptoms or transmission 100%. It may be as low as 40% for some vaccines.

 

[watfly]

I read some of the statements from the gymnasts. It's just stomach turning. No one seemed interested in protecting the girls - multiple levels of failure, not just the FBI. It's an indictment of our society, in my opinion. I wish it was the exception, but sadly, I expect that this is just a situation that has gained the spotlight.

100% and its just not multiple levels of failures, its also multiple storylines of societal ills and government corruption. The most disturbing to me is society's current emphasis on putting the interests of adults ahead of the interests of children.

 

[NorCalDad]

Some people may not need to get vaccinated (particularly if they have a confirmed PCr test and a relatively high antibody count). We are really arguing about the roughly 15% of the population that haven’t been exposed

plus we know the vaccine is not full proof to stop symptoms or transmission 100%. It may be as low as 40% for some vaccines.

I don't think we can look at blanket number for the US. My county is highly vaccinated. Our hospitals are fine. Cases are still happening but it's not a big deal and nobody is dying -- at least not like it was pre-vaccine. I'm not convinced all the other states have plateaued just yet. Getting those hotspots vaccinated would be huge and would avoid a lot collateral damage. It's unfortunate the anti-vaxer movement even came about, at least at the scale we've seen. I don't think we'd even be having this conversation right now had people just done the right thing.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Why do you take it for granted that adults get to ignore the mask rules?

You start by assuming that we all do our best to make the rules unworkable, and then complain that the rules don't work.

The rules are unworkable because they deny peoples rights to due process and thus Liberty and justice which you people take for granted.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Done for me but 1-3 not happen in the USA.

Getting more people out of cars; walking, running, biking, investing in outdoor infrastructure, alt forms of transport; biking, PEV would be a good thing.

In Holland bigger cities you see up to 75% of people using bikes instead of cars to get around. USA is such a car culture I dunno if we will really ever invest enough in alt forms of transportation or infrastructure, paths, lanes, incentives, etc.

Folks who moved to the suburbs from the City of New York gain 15 lbs. on average because the primary mode of travel in New York is walking.

 

[crush]

100% and its just not multiple levels of failures, its also multiple storylines of societal ills and government corruption. The most disturbing to me is society's current emphasis on putting the interests of adults ahead of the interests of children.

Custom Millstones are being made at Camp Justice down at the Bay. New court house was built as well Wat Fly. I keep telling you WTF this is all really about. Do you see now homie? This is and always has been about the kids and Human Trafficking. My bet is people like you, NoCaldad and others will finally see and change on the spot. The others who have their head in the sand will probably act like it's nothing. t #1 message win he beat HRC was to take down and destroy the Human Trafficking business with the full force of the Military. Watch the videos I sent you and to all the others on here. This is not about election or the pandemic, it's always been about saving the children.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Because I’ve seen it with my own eyes on airplanes. If you allow food and drink some adults cheat and just wear it for take off and landing. It’s the same as masks in restaurants at bars restaurants and theaters. It’s security theater. Tormenting the 2 year old is doing nothing if you aren’t enforcing it against the adults…particularly as the Mom here is trying to comply while the adult is actively cheating

security theater with collateral damage is worse than actually sticking to your principles and enforcing rules that make sense (but hey then you are back to no indoor dining). Or you know you could get in line with the rest of the world and at least exempt kids five and under (a 2 year old having about as much control as a moderately autistic 12 year old)

Dad is a one size fits all policy guy. Venezuela is the place for him. Maduro would roll out the blood red carpet for him.