Vaccine

[dad4]

It's just harder to swallow when it exacerbates a problem and doesn't help to fix it.

Depends on whether you think the problem is the debt or the worthless degree.

I see both as problems. As a first step, it’s not horrible. That is, if there were a second step. Unfortunately, I don’t see any willingness to deal with the useless degree problem. We’re dealing with the result, but not the cause.

 

[espola]

Depends on whether you think the problem is the debt or the worthless degree.

I see both as problems. As a first step, it’s not horrible. That is, if there were a second step. Unfortunately, I don’t see any willingness to deal with the useless degree problem. We’re dealing with the result, but not the cause.

Worthless? Useless? Some of the biggest student loan debts were acquired while attending medical school. And a $10k rollback wouldn't really wipe out a $200k debt.

It’s not a cure-all, but Biden’s debt relief aids medical students, residents

The president’s initiative only covers a portion of the average debt of medical school, but the Association of American Medical Colleges says it still does some good.

www.chiefhealthcareexecutive.com

 

[watfly]

Depends on whether you think the problem is the debt or the worthless degree.

I see both as problems. As a first step, it’s not horrible. That is, if there were a second step. Unfortunately, I don’t see any willingness to deal with the useless degree problem. We’re dealing with the result, but not the cause.

I'm not really offended by the worthless degrees, although I probably could get behind a program to incentivize marketable degrees where we have a shortfall of employees. It's the cost that offends me. Many of these universities are sitting on enormous endowments that could be used to offset the cost of tuition to some extent. The Biden handout does nothing to address the problem and potentially makes the problem worse, it certainly won't help inflation. This is a straight up handout and an indirect handout to the academic institutions. Shiny new buildings are nice but an affordable education is nicer.

 

[Happened again]

Did they try to have the will of the American people ignored? Did they try to coerce people into changing electors? Did they steal secret documents? What have the done wrong? Did they do it for personal reasons or to protect people? Maybe all the secrets will be revealed when Putin’s military finds Hunter Biden’s laptop!

nahhh, those are just small things...."they" are going to approve bivalent boosters tested only on mice.

 

[Happened again]

You mean like the wall?

so a wall wouldn't work?

 

[Brav520]

Depends on whether you think the problem is the debt or the worthless degree.

I see both as problems. As a first step, it’s not horrible. That is, if there were a second step. Unfortunately, I don’t see any willingness to deal with the useless degree problem. We’re dealing with the result, but not the cause.

the problem probably first starts with the cost of college

but no one wants to address that

 

[Brav520]

so a wall wouldn't work?

don’t go down this rabbit hole with a lefty , it’s a sidetrack

should the border be protected is the question

 

[Grace T.]

the problem probably first starts with the cost of college

but no one wants to address that

part of the cost of college is the non money making sports such as soccer (which exists on the boys end too even before you get to Title IX)...which in turn feeds the pay or play system that we have.....


SEE! This thread has finally gone full circle

 

[espola]

part of the cost of college is the non money making sports such as soccer (which exists on the boys end too even before you get to Title IX)...which in turn feeds the pay or play system that we have.....


SEE! This thread has finally gone full circle

"Full circle" would include you updating your crossing the Rubicon post.

 

[Happened again]

don’t go down this rabbit hole with a lefty , it’s a sidetrack

should the border be protected is the question

ha...yes of course. but to debate the logic of having something vs nothing could be so much fun.

 

[Pollo Elastico]

of having something vs nothing could be so much fun.

I agree. Some days husker seems to have at least a pea sized brain, and other days there appears to be nothing in there.

 

[Kicker 2.0]

Did they try to have the will of the American people ignored? Did they try to coerce people into changing electors? Did they steal secret documents? What have the done wrong? Did they do it for personal reasons or to protect people? Maybe all the secrets will be revealed when Putin’s military finds Hunter Biden’s laptop!

How does that have ANYTHING to do with my point?

But since you have no real rebuttals to my point, I’ll ask if you have any ideas why the FBI pressured Twitter to squelch the laptop story?

 

[Kicker 2.0]

You mean like the wall?

The one Biden allocated more money to or is there another one you speak of?

Biden’s DHS closing gap in California border wall Trump wanted filled in

The Biden administration has quietly given the green light to completing a border barrier separating Southern California from Mexico.

nypost.com

 

[Kicker 2.0]

Worthless? Useless? Some of the biggest student loan debts were acquired while attending medical school. And a $10k rollback wouldn't really wipe out a $200k debt.

It’s not a cure-all, but Biden’s debt relief aids medical students, residents

The president’s initiative only covers a portion of the average debt of medical school, but the Association of American Medical Colleges says it still does some good.

www.chiefhealthcareexecutive.com

If those students are now making over $125k they aren’t helped.

 

[dad4]

If those students are now making over $125k they aren’t helped.

Why would someone making over 125k need help?

 

[Pollo Elastico]

If those students are now making over $125k they aren’t helped.

Students took those loans voluntarily. Nobody forced them to take a loan.

50% of loans are held with those with masters degrees or higher.

Typical college grad makes far more than HS grads. Why should HS grades pay for student loans that went to people that generally speaking make more money than them?

Etc etc.

 

[Kicker 2.0]

Why would someone making over 125k need help?

Don’t recall saying that they did.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

The one Biden allocated more money to or is there another one you speak of?

Biden’s DHS closing gap in California border wall Trump wanted filled in

The Biden administration has quietly given the green light to completing a border barrier separating Southern California from Mexico.

nypost.com

“In late May, the Department of Homeland Security announced it would replace a “deteriorated barrier” located near the cross-border Friendship Park in Imperial Beach, just south of San Diego.”

The repair and replacement of existing fencing has been going on for decades. They are still working off W funding in some sections.

 

[Hüsker Dü]

How does that have ANYTHING to do with my point?

But since you have no real rebuttals to my point, I’ll ask if you have any ideas why the FBI pressured Twitter to squelch the laptop story?

Nothing, but it sure cracked me up!

. . . and the laptop story followed the same line of disinformation as many of the previous elections Russian infiltration on social media. What is the “laptop story”? Maybe you could be the first to break the news! No one else has anything beyond speculation.

 

[Kicker 2.0]

Nothing, but it sure cracked me up!

That’s what I thought