Vaccine

watfly said:
The "science changed" is one of the biggest lies being propagated by the science community. The science didn't change on masks and for everything else "the speculation turned out not to be correct" is way different than the "science changing".
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It demonstrates the power and influence that "academic" science has on the elites and policy makers. People with layman's view of biology, medicine, anatomy, virology, etc were at first mildy amused at the scramble for masks and masking..but then it was like...oh shit, they really believe this and are converting it to policy. Anyway, plenty of water under the bridge. The CDC will now be congratulated for how they've come out and admitted their professional incompetence. Wait until it's all corroborated how pharma and politicians were in cahoots on how vaccine research was influenced and why it was influenced. fun stuff. Vaccines have their place.
 
watfly said:
That's a very plausible theory. The nerds have been bitter about being unpopular and powerless and this is "Revenge of the Nerds" led by Bill Gates. I think you're on to something.
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These Nerds have some sic fetishes' to go along with their psychopathic desires to mass murder us all. They were picked last on the playground and they have now gone all in with their Revenge. Oh shit, The Nerds that know how to mix shit to make bio weapons are not to mess around with brother. BTW, my wife and I now have a nest with just the two of us. You know what that means, right? It reminds me of a cool song to ring in TGIFF!

 
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Nerds always hated sports and only a Nerd would do something like this to basketball hoops. "No sports for you and no close contact for you and no frens to visit and you have to wear a mask and take the jab or you will be fired and kicked out of life." In fact, when my dd and I were kicking the ball around at the park 2+ years ago, it was a Nerd that called the cops on us and it was a Nerd from the City that warned us that they would call more Nerds if we did not leave the park "right now" because the virus was everywhere. I still remember the look on that Nerds face. His eyes were full of fear and dude was obese. It was a Nerd that yelled at me for going Surfing without a mask and it was a Nerd that yelled at my dd at Home Depot for not wearing a mask when the Rona first came. Nerds+Fear= Nerd Fear!!! The Nerds have stolen two+ years of young kids lives. In order to get the plywood unlocked in LA to play hoops, you need to prove as a kid you got all the jabs and you have to wear a mask when you run up and down the court.
 
crush said:
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Nerds always hated sports and only a Nerd would do something like this to basketball hoops. "No sports for you and no close contact for you and no frens to visit and you have to wear a mask and take the jab or you will be fired and kicked out of life." In fact, when my dd and I were kicking the ball around at the park 2+ years ago, it was a Nerd that called the cops on us and it was a Nerd from the City that warned us that they would call more Nerds if we did not leave the park "right now" because the virus was everywhere. I still remember the look on that Nerds face. His eyes were full of fear and dude was obese. It was a Nerd that yelled at me for going Surfing without a mask and it was a Nerd that yelled at my dd at Home Depot for not wearing a mask when the Rona first came. Nerds+Fear= Nerd Fear!!! The Nerds have stolen two+ years of young kids lives. In order to get the plywood unlocked in LA to play hoops, you need to prove as a kid you got all the jabs and you have to wear a mask when you run up and down the court.
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Don't forget the sand in the skatepark.

You know that Fauci got his ass kicked on the playground on a regular basis.
 
watfly said:
Don't forget the sand in the skatepark.

You know that Fauci got his ass kicked on the playground on a regular basis.
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Motive is key to why Nerds from around the world would mix up bat shit in labs to destroy our way of life bruh. As I sit and ponder the last 6 years, I see now what these Nerd Monsters have been doing. We have a few Nerds here at the forum as well. I tried to be nice to Nerds as foster child but they laugh at me in class because I couldn't talk because of my handicap. I had my Revenge of the Nerd on the playground. Pink bellies, Melvins, Rubber Fingers and throw in trash can to name a few. I was a pissed off little kid because these Nerds and their Nerd teachers were ruthless to me and it was just gnarly bro. As I right all this, the past and the pain that comes with it is real bro.
 
crush said:
Motive is key to why Nerds from around the world would mix up bat shit in labs to destroy our way of life bruh. As I sit and ponder the last 6 years, I see now what these Nerd Monsters have been doing. We have a few Nerds here at the forum as well. I tried to be nice to Nerds as foster child but they laugh at me in class because I couldn't talk because of my handicap. I had my Revenge of the Nerd on the playground. Pink bellies, Melvins, Rubber Fingers and throw in trash can to name a few. I was a pissed off little kid because these Nerds and their Nerd teachers were ruthless to me and it was just gnarly bro. As I right all this, the past and the pain that comes with it is real bro.
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Don't get carried away, I'm mostly being facetious.

But think about it. The pandemic was a Nerdtopia. Not only did their leaders have the podium, they got to stay home and play video games and not be forced to socialize. ;)
 
watfly said:
Don't get carried away, I'm mostly being facetious.

But think about it. The pandemic was a Nerdtopia. Not only did their leaders have the podium, they got to stay home and play video games and not be forced to socialize. ;)
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I'm being honest with me feelings bruh. Think how some of our brave Marines feel about all those endless wars that made a few rich and the rest without limbs or worse, death. I shared my story of survival before my birth before and my 9 lives and how as a cat, I keep landing on my feet. Insane bro to say the least. The Nerds called me a cell and worthless bastard child from another.
 
watfly said:
That's a very plausible theory. The nerds have been bitter about being unpopular and powerless and this is "Revenge of the Nerds" led by Bill Gates. I think you're on to something.
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Remember that Revenge of the Nerds was written by the cool kids.

The cool kids want power, so they assume that the nerds must want power. It's why Kelly has such an easy time imagining this as a power struggle between her and Fauci.

But, to nerds, that's just a political question. To them, if you want to eradicate polio, you need data and vaccines. Power struggles happen, but they are unfortunate.

From this point of view, Kelly's opinion about covid transmission is about as useful as Kelly's opinion about automotive transmissions. She doesn't have the data or the expertise necessary to be helpful with either.
 
watfly said:
Don't forget the sand in the skatepark.

You know that Fauci got his ass kicked on the playground on a regular basis.
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Sand in the skatepark is exactly what Wallensky is talking about with actionable data. It took a very long time for research to turn into policy changes. So we kept the early policies, whether they made sense or not.

We had early indications that gyms were risky and outdoors was safe. But it took almost a year to open up the parks.

The proposal is to shorten that timeframe, so that our policies reflect the available data, instead of just inertia.
 
dad4 said:
Remember that Revenge of the Nerds was written by the cool kids.

The cool kids want power, so they assume that the nerds must want power. It's why Kelly has such an easy time imagining this as a power struggle between her and Fauci.

But, to nerds, that's just a political question. To them, if you want to eradicate polio, you need data and vaccines. Power struggles happen, but they are unfortunate.

From this point of view, Kelly's opinion about covid transmission is about as useful as Kelly's opinion about automotive transmissions. She doesn't have the data or the expertise necessary to be helpful with either.
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I don't expect you to give her opinion any consideration. It's not within your life paradigm to understand it. Just like its not within my paradigm to understand putting the pandemic burdens on children.

However, it represents how many of us that don't live in an academic bubble, but live in a world where we have to make cost/benefit and risk based opinions on a daily basis, feel regarding Fauci. Are we right? Depends on your perspective. It's right for us, but obviously not right for you.
 
dad4 said:
Sand in the skatepark is exactly what Wallensky is talking about with actionable data. It took a very long time for research to turn into policy changes. So we kept the early policies, whether they made sense or not.

We had early indications that gyms were risky and outdoors was safe. But it took almost a year to open up the parks.

The proposal is to shorten that timeframe, so that our policies reflect the available data, instead of just inertia.
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Yes, that's a large part of my frustration. Quick to close on speculation, slow to reopen on data. Like I said I can give a mulligan for the first couple months, but thereafter its shameful what we did to kids.

Like I've said throughout the pandemic the exception should require much more evidence than the status quo. During the pandemic it was the opposite. That's a dangerous precedent.
 
watfly said:
I don't expect you to give her opinion any consideration. It's not within your life paradigm to understand it. Just like its not within my paradigm to understand putting the pandemic burdens on children.

However, it represents how many of us that don't live in an academic bubble, but live in a world where we have to make cost/benefit and risk based opinions on a daily basis, feel regarding Fauci. Are we right? Depends on your perspective. It's right for us, but obviously not right for you.
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Suppose she had given you a diatribe against continuously varuable transmissions, but consistently got GM confused with Toyota.

Would this affect your future car purchases? Or would you go read something like Car and Driver?

That’s kind of where she is with covid. Delivers a diatribe, but can’t tell the difference between Beta, Delta, and Omicron.
 
dad4 said:
Suppose she had given you a diatribe against continuously varuable transmissions, but consistently got GM confused with Toyota.

Would this affect your future car purchases? Or would you go read something like Car and Driver?

That’s kind of where she is with covid. Delivers a diatribe, but can’t tell the difference between Beta, Delta, and Omicron.
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You mean like when the Delta vaccine was mandated when the Omicron virus was prominent? Yes, that's problematic.

Nice to see we're finding some common ground today.
 
watfly said:
You mean like when the Delta vaccine was mandated when the Omicron virus was prominent? Yes, that's problematic.

Nice to see we're finding some common ground today.
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Dad really should eat some crow and wash it down with some tasty humble pie. Amazing that dads like him won't see the error of their stance and how it was 100% all political. We warned him when folks like crush and others got fired or lost the ability to make a buck like those who took the bait and all the jabs that came with it. He wrong 100% but is to prideful to admit when wrong.
 
Things Our Govt redacts:
"Vaxx ingredients and side effects , search warrants on Presidents, school curriculum, congress and senator stock transactions, details of money to foreign countries, Epstein flight logs, Epstein black book, and harmful side effects of literally any food product, chemical, or liquid that’s used around humans.
Our Constitutional Rights cannot be redacted!
We want our republic back!" Fletch17
 
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