kickingandscreaming
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This is the question that should be asked for every response he has.
Vaccine
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EvilGoalie 21
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I tend to think not so many since Montagnier, the most senior author on what you posted, passed in February of this year. I suspect the reviewers will go "data elements are based on prion sequence gazing, conclusions go beyond that, fix it". And the question will be whether any of the other authors can do that.
It is a sad thing, to me at any rate, that so much C19 contrarianism, from Montagnier, to Mikovits, to Malone, arises from or is deritive to grudges born out of cred and $ associated with tensions between Montagier in France on one side and Gallo and (indirectly) Fauci in the USA on the other about discovery of HIV in the 1980s. It is a complex story not many will know. And those fault lines have been exploited in a remarkably adroit fashion. The principles are kicking off now, however, so it will fade away.
Desert Hound
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"Since late February, Americans who have gotten a booster shot appear to be testing positive for COVID-19 more often than those vaccinated without the extra shot, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data.
This is based on numbers up until the week of April 23, which is the most recently released CDC data comparing case rates of those boosted, vaccinated and unvaccinated against the coronavirus. Ultimately, the numbers, which are updated monthly, showed those unvaccinated had the highest case rates overall.
Meanwhile, about 119 out of 100,000 boosted individuals tested positive for COVID-19 during the week of April 23, according to CDC data. In comparison, 56 out of 100,000 individuals vaccinated with only a primary series tested positive.
But why are the case rates higher for boosted individuals than for those vaccinated without a booster?"
This is based on numbers up until the week of April 23, which is the most recently released CDC data comparing case rates of those boosted, vaccinated and unvaccinated against the coronavirus. Ultimately, the numbers, which are updated monthly, showed those unvaccinated had the highest case rates overall.
Meanwhile, about 119 out of 100,000 boosted individuals tested positive for COVID-19 during the week of April 23, according to CDC data. In comparison, 56 out of 100,000 individuals vaccinated with only a primary series tested positive.
But why are the case rates higher for boosted individuals than for those vaccinated without a booster?"
MSN
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“Individuals receiving boosters may be more likely to have their cases counted,” Hanage said.
Hanage said this is because “just in being boosted, they are displaying ‘health seeking’ behavior” and “they are more likely to have contact with healthcare and get a test that ends up in official stats.”
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Baldref thinks people getting sick is funny.
Desert Hound
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Science | AAAS
www.science.org
EvilGoalie 21
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If you click on CDC link in the news blurb cited earlier the overall data profile during delta and omicron looks like this. It's a similar overall case reduction with vaxx to what's been observed, using different tracking methodologies, in the UK. If you look at where the blue and black lines come together in the trough during April that's what the fuss is about.
MicPaPa
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It would seem to me that this is a result of the same age based stratification of risk generally inherent with COVID. Ie those more likely to qualify for booster shots (one or more) are older and more likely to have immunity fade just like flu shots. Hence, more likely to get COVID post vaccination… not a vaccination issue or flaw, just ‘the human condition’ of getting older.
Hüsker Dü
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The Covid death rate for white Americans has recently exceeded the rates for Black, Latino and Asian Americans.
But these large racial gaps in vaccination have not continued — and as a result, neither have the gaps in Covid death rates. |
Instead, Covid’s racial gaps have narrowed and, more recently, even flipped. Over the past year, the Covid death rate for white Americans has been 14 percent higher than the rate for Black Americans and 72 percent higher than the Latino rate, according to the latest C.D.C. data. |
How about the Age and Obesity factor, has that changed?
Hüsker Dü
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Makes too much sense huh? Kinda scary.
That’s not an answer……
To your point, no. It’s not scary at all. My 80 yr old father with a heart condition just rolled thru Covid as if it were a seasonal cold. He got the first round of shots back in 2021. Your point?
Glad your dad is well. One case can’t really prove more than that. Otherwise, you’re making the same mistake as the NYT made in its coverage. “I heard about this one guy” is not the same as an accurate reflection of overall risk.
Husker was pointing out that the vaccine seems to be working, among those who take it. As a result, when you get a demographic shift in who is unvaccinated, you also get a shift in who is dying from covid.
That “shift” based on racial demographics doesn’t change the statistics on specific vulnerabilities that account for the vast majority of Covid deaths.
Hüsker Dü
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The study, the fact that now that minorities are on board with getting vaxxed the numbers have tilted the other way. Now it’s those fed a steady diet of fear and distrust that are feeling the pain.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Exactly.
Yes, the specific vulnerabilities, such as being old, overweight, or unvaccinated.
The presence of one item in that list does not negate the importance of the other two. The data is rock solid on all three at this point.
Who would have thought that fear mongering and isolation would have impacted our children?
Pandemic babies are behind after years of stress, isolation affected brain development
Kids born in the COVID-19 era lag in certain skills and are more prone to challenging behaviors. Experts say their parents need more support.
www.usatoday.com
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Crush is gone. Who is arguing otherwise?
Also, what is the source? He didn't respond to it if it was already posted.