Vaccine

dad4 said:
As far as I can tell, no one in the country was giving that advice. The message, left or right, was that you should stay home if you test positive.
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Nope. Your memory is short.

When it came to BLM the medical community said it was ok to go out and protest and hang out in large crowds. That was the summer of 2020.

We had 100s of posts on here about how logically that didnt make sense. On one hand it was OK to go out in large crowds. On the other hand the same people encouraging that...wanted biz and schools closed.
 
One big issue I see over at Truth Social, is that everyone who does a TRUTH thinks their TRUTH is the real TRUTH. It's the Wild West over at Truth and everyone is presenting their TRUTHs. Devin said that all Bots will be cleaned out but that's not happening right now. Millions just showed up. I'm getting trolled by a Husker type. The first week is was all the hard core right wing conservatives having a hay day with the controls and the narrative. No push back until now. Now that Espola and Husker types and trolls and bots are massing their armies on Truth, the place is on fire now. I will say it's better to fight each other online then in the street. I can do this all day....lol.
 
Peter Narvarro just got indicted for Jan 6th I guess. I said 6 years ago to Espola and his Elks that arresting, spying, cheating and stealing from one side is wrong and if the left pulls that stunt, it's not going to go well. They did and boy did they. I said each side will arrest each other then and that is the beginning of a war. A war that never really ended and was only on pause since 1946. Depending on the judge and the jury of your peers or a nice pardon from your favorite President, justice is not served in this country. 98% of all cases get settled and no justice, just pay to play the lawyers who get a very nice cut for dealing with all the shit and we get no justice.
 
Desert Hound said:
Nope. Your memory is short.

When it came to BLM the medical community said it was ok to go out and protest and hang out in large crowds. That was the summer of 2020.

We had 100s of posts on here about how logically that didnt make sense. On one hand it was OK to go out in large crowds. On the other hand the same people encouraging that...wanted biz and schools closed.
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Not sure what your point is. I was convinced that BLM was behaving irresponsibly and that the left media was ignoring it. I remain convinced of the same. So do you.
 
crush said:
Good Morning Natives, I got up early because I only have three more days to try and help you guys. I spoke from my heart and I will finish from the heart. My Doctor pal from Stanford told me some crazy stories about some Docs that are bought and sold soul for money. Gee, go figure.........


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I think we need to be careful to not lump Fauci in with actual medical doctors that treat patients. He is a scientist that has always worked in a lab. I trust someone who are actually treating patients and the disease way more than someone who is looking at it through a microscope. Our frontline doctors were heroes during Covid and were way more honest then the media darlings.
 
watfly said:
I think we need to be careful to not lump Fauci in with actual medical doctors that treat patients. He is a scientist that has always worked in a lab. I trust someone who are actually treating patients and the disease way more than someone who is looking at it through a microscope. Our frontline doctors were heroes during Covid and were way more honest then the media darlings.
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ER Docs, yes. My wife worked for a pill pusher. Great Doc but only gave pills. My wife got free lunches every week and dude got kickbacks from the Big Pharma. Not all Dcos are car racers bro but the one's that are, they need to be transparent. The news is owned by these companies.
 
watfly said:
I think we need to be careful to not lump Fauci in with actual medical doctors that treat patients. He is a scientist that has always worked in a lab. I trust someone who are actually treating patients and the disease way more than someone who is looking at it through a microscope. Our frontline doctors were heroes during Covid and were way more honest then the media darlings.
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What were the “frontline doctors” “more honest about”?
 
dad4 said:
His other points are trash. A death rate of .04% works out to 1200 deaths in SD county. Most people do not find that "irrelevant."
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so what number is acceptable? It can’t be 0 because that will never happen, people die…so I am curious what you think would be a relevant number
 
"To the idiot saying I am setting a terrible example [for refusing to get the vaccine]—I had the virus already! I already have antibodies. Why would I take the vaccine again?

Over there at Pfizer, it’s really clear in the contract, "We don’t take responsibility for any side effects." If you turn into a crocodile, it’s your problem!"


Guess who said this? Hint, he is a President of a country.......lol






 
watfly said:
I've made the distinction between masks versus mandates myself, but ultimately masks don't wear themselves. For that reason, the only truly relevant factor is the efficacy of mandates. Masks don't work as a public health measure ...human nature...
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I largely agree with what you say, although I think defining what "work" means, and for whom, is key. Mask wearing and mandate efficacy are linked variables. For the people that do these studies on increasingly ginormous data sets (and they don't do them so we can steal a sentence or two and beat each other upside the head with them) that's what they want to do. Defining "work" within the models is key to doing that. For most of these large studies that have been flagged on this thread of late, as I understand it (and it's not my thing; you pop the hood on the underlying stats on these huge data sets and its like looking under the hood of a Ford Mach E) the assumption has been that "work" must mean time of mandate = contemporaenous hysteresis in cases, hospitilizations, whatever. But it turns out depending on how you cast your net in some cases that's true, and so mandates work. In other's, as per what you say, not so much. What subset within a larger culture is being measured? Or just everybody within an aribitrary group? That appear to matter for "mandates working". Not too surprising really. People being people. And if there is a perceived crisis people band together with those they trust. With emergent C-viruses we'll be in the same place again soon enough and we'll find out if any of this academic appreciation of granularity matters to decision makers.

Here's an anedoctal example. My kid, who just graduated HS, was an IB student. The thing about IB exams is if you miss them, well you miss them and that sucks. The IB kids, who are a small subset of the larger high school, got together and agreed to keep wearing NPI. Like their own mini-mandate. Prom came and after that there was a sizable omicron outbreak (probably vanilla flavor from the sound of it) at the school. With the exception of 1 kid, all the IB kids were able to take their exams. Coincidence? Could be. Cause/effect. Could be. Get a dataset in the millions and drill down into groupings and statistically you can start saying things.
 
crush said:
Peter Narvarro just got indicted for Jan 6th I guess. I said 6 years ago to Espola and his Elks that arresting, spying, cheating and stealing from one side is wrong and if the left pulls that stunt, it's not going to go well. They did and boy did they. I said each side will arrest each other then and that is the beginning of a war. A war that never really ended and was only on pause since 1946. Depending on the judge and the jury of your peers or a nice pardon from your favorite President, justice is not served in this country. 98% of all cases get settled and no justice, just pay to play the lawyers who get a very nice cut for dealing with all the shit and we get no justice.
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Elks?
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:
Elks?
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I just put Elks because it came from my brain and I remember avatars trying to warn Espola and his crew that arresting and spying on your opponent is not right. That was for years ago. They arrested and handcuffed Peter at the airport. Cheating, stealing and then arresting those you disagree with is for losers and that is what you and so many at the forum have become, losers.
 
Hey guys, I have today and tomorrow and then I will not post on the forum. Only PMs. We are now entering into a new phase with these losers and cheaters. I want thank everyone who has provided me with much needed information in my pursuit of the TRUTH. We have known liars and cheaters right here at the forum. Lie to little girls, cheat and lie and then steal dreams from girls whose fathers don't want to play the pay to play game because pay to play is only good for the one paying and the Doc. Pay more in order to get dd to the next of the pay to play soccer. Yuk and yikes and no thank you. So many sharks and just bad dudes in the pool. Clean the pool, get rid of bad Docs and coaches and please and I mean please get some good woman coaches to take over the girls sport. It really is controlled by some Dicks!!!
 
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We have endured together some rough shit over the last four years. It's been an honor to serve with all of you in this war. The Liberal Liars have cheated, spied, scammed, divided, ruined, stolen and sold their souls and country out for the almighty dollar :( Some will die for dollar because they worship dollar over the TRUTH. I leave you with some advice. I will be posting a lot of memes until my last post tomorrow at 5:55pm. Again, if anyone has gold information regarding you know what, please PM me. The last two weeks some awesome dads have stepped forward with serious information. We need a healthy sport for girls and soccer is perfect.

1. If Bill Gates is involved, avoid it
2. If joe say's it's true, it's false
3. If the CDC, FDA and Dad4 say it's safe, it's dangerous
4. If the media or Espola agree, it's a lie
 
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I found an old picture from the old days of Grandpa Espola jumping over his Sunshine at the beach back in the day. I will not miss you guys and I will lurk to laugh and giggle. I love you both and 100% forgive you. I'm glad the three of us have a great sense of humor and I glad you both can take it hard on the chin.

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