Vaccine

Kicker 2.0 said:
True, but we are talking about data analysis right now. You made a false claim based on the argument being made (not false if you add cherry picked parameters, but that changes the argument).

they have data, they know who got it and of those who where vaxx’d and boosted. A few things that would skew the numbers are asymptomatic and untested and/or unreported home test positives, but likely not in a direction that would improve the effectiveness.
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The data is there, the brits already did a study with available data, published in the The Lancet Infectious Diseases.

At the end of the day research efforts should be directed towards enhancing existing vaccines or developing new vaccines that also protect against asymptomatic infections and onward transmission. Unfortunaly omicron and any follow on variants may make ths a moot point. We are always going to be a step behind. c-viruses tend to do what they need to do to stay relevant.
 
espola said:
It has already been settled that "Jordan Peterson is actually one of the great philosophers of our age".
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Another hum dinger of a winner for you Magoo :

1. what set of the discussion was the attack against Peterson as “an angry white guy”. Of course his perspective was going to be different than someone of African American descent.
2. they were talking about the stupidity of labeling people the particular labels of “black” and “white” considering there are so few people that actually match those exact colors. They all actually wind up agreeing with each other since it’s pointed out on Daily that “black” is a term used by the European colonizers that arrived in Africa to discuss people darker than them and they just chose to label them “black”. The stupid part is THEY ALL AGREE ON THIS POINT
3. They don’t all have to be gems. Otherwise there’s a lot of Plato we need to throw out too.
4. disappointed in you.Your trolling is better and more entertaining when you do comedy.
 
Grace T. said:
Another hum dinger of a winner for you Magoo : they were talking about the stupidity of labeling people the particular labels of “black” and “white” considering there are so few people that actually match those exact colors.
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Well, say that to this guy....

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I used to live in East LA Grace T and San Gabriel Valley in the early 90s. Only white guy in my apartment complex and everyone was so loving to me. No one mad dogged or looked at me with scorn or hate. Today, I go to LA and people have mask on, look super scared and have that look of fear, like maybe this is all my fault. You can't love if you open with fear. Impossible. I read people's energy and I can feel it strongly when someone hates me because of my color or my demand for honesty and transparency. Character does not matter to some. Cops are getting shot in record numbers every night. Like really, shot and killed at record numbers. I hate to say what's going to come next, but if you think two summers ago was rough, just wait. Mid Terms ring an alarm bell in your brain? We all have been on the forum the last few years and during the time when T was running our country in 2018. Look at this group of people and wtf they have done to people's lives. Vax and no vax, black and white and brown have all been impacted. The children have it the worst. Come on folks, were all getting played. WHO does something like that to humans? They will use race bait to cause us to hate. Don't give in. I will walk in LA with love and kindness and if that get's me killed, oh well. All criminals have been let out of jail for one last smash & go ride of a lifetime and no one has bail anymore, so they can just keep doing it until. Hello, this is bad news. When elites start losing in sports, work, politics, or the just the game of life, they pull every card out of their play book to win at all cost. Lie, cheat, start wars, send our kids to dies, steal, lie some more cards, cancel people out, pay to play, back stab, snob card, whack them, shut them up, label them, fire them, force jab, force mask, force boosters, force label force and just born to be forced into slavery. No one is free right now and we all know it. Welcome to hell everyone. First, at least we know where the hell we are today. We were duped at birth and snake oiled by the snake himself. 95% of what we believe is from someone else who was here before us and he or she left their dreams for us. Some psycho(s) dreamed of running and controlling the planet through deception and forcing people to comply with their cocktail of juice to put in our blood. Watch the blood......
 
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Brav520 said:
NEIL YOUNG: You can either have me or you can have-

SPOTIFY: The answer is whoever you're about to say.
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Kind of like, "either you do as told and get the shots and the boosters or your fired and can't participant in any of the reindeers games!" All my pals just sat on their fence as I got crushed again and again and so many also lost all their businesses from this ruling class who tells you what to learn, how to learn it, force BS curriculum down kids throats, can;t play sports without a mask, can;t playt college sports without a jab and have to get a vax in order to receive a new heart you were waiting for and so much more evil. Sometimes you need to walk in hell, live in hell to get to heaven. The Master Teacher is coming. Guru means to be your own teacher. Each soul needs to become whole again. Gu is dark and Ru a light? Go and run to the light. Be your own GURU!!!!
 
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Ellejustus said:
Kind of like, "either you do as told and get the shots and the boosters or your fired and can't participant in any of the reindeers games!" All my pals just sat on their fence as I got crushed again and again and so many also got lost all their businesses from this ruling class who tells you what to learn, how to learn it, force BS curriculum down kids throats, can;t play sports without a mask, can;t playt college sports without a jab and have to get a vax in order to receive a new heart you were waiting for and so much more evil. Sometimes you need to walk in hell, live in hell to get to heaven. The Master Teacher is coming. Guru means to be your own teacher. Each soul needs to become whole again. Gu is dark and RU is light. Go and run to the light. Be your own GURU!!!!
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Boomers taking Ls

it’s great to see
 
Grace T. said:
2. they were talking about the stupidity of labeling people the particular labels of “black” and “white” considering there are so few people that actually match those exact colors. They all actually wind up agreeing with each other since it’s pointed out on Daily that “black” is a term used by the European colonizers that arrived in Africa to discuss people darker than them and they just chose to label them “black”. The stupid part is THEY ALL AGREE ON THIS POINT
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We are asymptotically approaching the core of the issue which has always been class. It's not that there isn't and hasn't been a racial component to class but where do you draw the line on who is "black"? This is becoming more difficult as our country becomes more mixed and less "white".

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The nation is diversifying even faster than predicted, according to new census data

Discover how new census data shows the rapid diversification of the American population.
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Desert Hound said:
I find it interesting that shows like the above bitch about Rogan.

Watching the Daily Show one gets no real exposure to different opinions, usually gets jokes/commentaries from one direction, etc.

But the clapping seals in the audience eat it up.
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It's weird that in my lifetime the left has become the power that wants to "protect" people from free speech. Conspiracy theories have been out there FOREVER. The best we can do is lead with honesty, transparency, and balance in how information is presented. We are reaping the "rewards" of advocacy journalism and dishonest leadership where their leaders and followers are now hacking at the leaves with an authoritarian approach due to the seeds that they planted.
 
Desert Hound said:
I find it interesting that shows like the above bitch about Rogan.

Watching the Daily Show one gets no real exposure to different opinions, usually gets jokes/commentaries from one direction, etc.

But the clapping seals in the audience eat it up.
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Noah lacks the jon stewart intellect, it's that simple. Stewart cared about social issues. The show's ratings are in the gutter, especially with the orange boogy man not around to make fun of the media and send mean tweets.
 
Desert Hound said:
I find it interesting that shows like the above bitch about Rogan.

Watching the Daily Show one gets no real exposure to different opinions, usually gets jokes/commentaries from one direction, etc.

But the clapping seals in the audience eat it up.
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You realize that “clapping seals in the audience” is a pretty good description of this thread, right?
 
It's going to be interesting to see how this Spotify thing plays out. Could just be a flash in the pan, but if more artists follow suit it could literally take down Spotify. The pressure could be too much for their board / stock holders. The other interesting thing about this "cancel" attempt is its free market driven. Neil Young is within his rights to say he doesn't want to have his music on their platform and users are within their rights to cancel their membership. There could be a downward spiral effect where other less political users cancel because their favorite musicians have left. This is definitely different than a platform proactively removing users (Orange Man on Twitter for example). You can't even add regulation here. Time for some popcorn.
 
NorCalDad said:
It's going to be interesting to see how this Spotify thing plays out. Could just be a flash in the pan, but if more artists follow suit it could literally take down Spotify. The pressure could be too much for their board / stock holders. The other interesting thing about this "cancel" attempt is its free market driven. Neil Young is within his rights to say he doesn't want to have his music on their platform and users are within their rights to cancel their membership. There could be a downward spiral effect where other less political users cancel because their favorite musicians have left. This is definitely different than a platform proactively removing users (Orange Man on Twitter for example). You can't even add regulation here. Time for some popcorn.
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Oh please.......Spare us and get real bro. This is what you wanted and now you have to choose Barry or Joe? You chose Vax so I'm sure you will want Mandy
 
dad4 said:
You realize that “clapping seals in the audience” is a pretty good description of this thread, right?
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Maybe on your end since there's never been a pronouncement by Fauci you guys didn't stand up an applaud for and those guys can do no wrong and should never be questioned. On our end, except for the extreme antivaxxer and 13 coils types, the entire thing has been ask questions, think critically and don't readily believe anything people in authority tell you. That's been the entire shtick from the beginning. Amazing you still don't get that.
 
dad4 said:
How do you design an experiment to measure vaccine effectiveness with respect to transmission?

I agree it would be nice to have, but I don't see an ethical way to do it.
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You don't need an experiment when you have clear real world results. We can quibble about percentages and semantics about "effectiveness", but its plainly obvious that vaccinations have not prevented community spread.
 
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