Vaccine

[crush]

Dude was offering free burgers for jabs and now "HE" is mandating private companies to force the jabs or tell their long time employees to either get jabbed or lose your ability to earn a buck. All must be done by December 27th!!! This is starting to become biblical you guys. This is game of choice. Good and Evil and you get to decide how to behave. If a good dog and a evil dog went to blows, WHO would win the big fight? You see everyone, we all have good and bad dog in us. The one who wins is the one you feed.

NYC Announces First-In-The-Nation Vaccine Mandate For Private Companies

“We in New York City have decided to use a preemptive strike, to really do something bold to stop the further growth of COVID and the dangers it’s causing to all of us,” de Blasio said in an interview with MSNBC. “So as of today, we’re going to announce a first-in-the-nation measure. Our health commissioner will announce a vaccine mandate for private sector employers across the board.”

This is insane!!!

 

[dad4]

Not even close.

They have been pro vax. They do however come out against vax mandates. Totally a different thing. They are also against useless gov restrictions.

They don't have blood on their hands.

Do you have a better explanation for the ridiculously low vaccine rate among Republicans?

I treat it as decent people who have been lied to. Are you saying they were well informed and intelligently chose a higher death rate?

 

[crush]

Do you have a better explanation for the ridiculously low vaccine rate among Republicans?

I treat it as decent people who have been lied to. Are you saying they were well informed and intelligently chose a higher death rate?

I just want you to know that your behavior is only going to get you in more trouble.

 

[watfly]

Looks like the Israelis are headed to their 4th shot in under 1 year. Coming to your neighborhood soon. Sorry guys, this is where I get off, particularly since it looks like the vaccine doesn't do much beyond the first two shots (protecting against severe disease due to novelty) for the omicron.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/healt...-dose-amid-rising-fears-of-fifth-covid-wavep/

Well there are 4 lines on our vaccine cards, so it was great planning by our government.

 

[crush]

Well there are 4 lines on our vaccine cards, so it was great planning by our government.

This guy just quit after selling the boosters for a long time. You can't make this shit up.

Australian psychopath

www.bitchute.com

Greg Hunt confirms he's retiring from politics at the next election

Federal Health and Aged Care Minister Greg Hunt announces he will retire at the next election and not recontest his seat in Victoria.

www.abc.net.au

 

[EvilGoalie 21]

Please explain a non-crazy biological basis for "run out of mutations".

Since I doubt you'll get anything back on this.....the virus can keep mutating, in fact a rapid rate of genetic change is hard wired in multiple ways into its replicative cycle. The argument is just classic evolutionary theory. The idea is that at some point the virus has come close to genetically optimizing its interaction with the Ace2 receptor and other potential rate limiting steps in infection. Further improvement of those steps becomes difficult to achieve and marginal in effect. CoV-2 will be as turbo charged as it can get. That's the "run out of mutations" thing. Its "run out of mutations that can be selected for in a way that increases viral replicative potential".

What's a virus to do? The only way around that genetic limit is to completely recast it's targeting strategy. Which is possible, especially now that CoV-2 is entering into new sylvatic resevoirs around the globe. This is what the Utube bloggers that put Grace into full blown Covid freakouts should be talking about. These resevoirs are natural laboratories where all sorts of recombinants slowly emerge and test the waters to see they have picked up any new tricks. Like imagine the replicative engine of Cov-S got linked up with an S protein coding region that targeted the MERS target receptor. This is something our kids to great, great grandchildren will need to be watching for.

 

[Grace T.]

Do you have a better explanation for the ridiculously low vaccine rate among Republicans?

I treat it as decent people who have been lied to. Are you saying they were well informed and intelligently chose a higher death rate?

It’s the same explanation for why a very strong g d group has low vaccination rates: a mistrust of the establishment institutions. Let’s look at the record of those institutions: health authorities who have been repeatedly wrong about things (including outright lies and most especially the complete neglect of natural immunity), a pharma industry in it for the profit and which has been caught playing fast and lose with the trials, a partisan and biased media, and politicians that repeatedly broke covid rules themselves Conservative media, rightly or wrongly, is only guilty of amplifying this sentiment. It didn’t create it. Remember last year the shoe was on the other foot with even the vp expressing reservations about the “trump vaccine”

 

[Grace T.]

Since I doubt you'll get anything back on this.....the virus can keep mutating, in fact a rapid rate of genetic change is hard wired in multiple ways into its replicative cycle. The argument is just classic evolutionary theory. The idea is that at some point the virus has come close to genetically optimizing its interaction with the Ace2 receptor and other potential rate limiting steps in infection. Further improvement of those steps becomes difficult to achieve and marginal in effect. CoV-2 will be as turbo charged as it can get. That's the "run out of mutations" thing. Its "run out of mutations that can be selected for in a way that increases viral replicative potential".

What's a virus to do? The only way around that genetic limit is to completely recast it's targeting strategy. Which is possible, especially now that CoV-2 is entering into new sylvatic resevoirs around the globe. This is what the Utube bloggers that put Grace into full blown Covid freakouts should be talking about. These resevoirs are natural laboratories where all sorts of recombinants slowly emerge and test the waters to see they have picked up any new tricks. Like imagine the replicative engine of Cov-S got linked up with an S protein coding region that targeted the MERS target receptor. This is something our kids to great, great grandchildren will need to be watching for.

Yes and the other argument is that it tries to recast its targeting strategy but fails…collapsing it’s ability to reproduce. I put it inartfully, but that’s what they in essence think has happened in Japan where covid collapsed unexpectedly even though seasonally it’s busting at the seams in South Korea.

 

[espola]

Since I doubt you'll get anything back on this.....the virus can keep mutating, in fact a rapid rate of genetic change is hard wired in multiple ways into its replicative cycle. The argument is just classic evolutionary theory. The idea is that at some point the virus has come close to genetically optimizing its interaction with the Ace2 receptor and other potential rate limiting steps in infection. Further improvement of those steps becomes difficult to achieve and marginal in effect. CoV-2 will be as turbo charged as it can get. That's the "run out of mutations" thing. Its "run out of mutations that can be selected for in a way that increases viral replicative potential".

What's a virus to do? The only way around that genetic limit is to completely recast it's targeting strategy. Which is possible, especially now that CoV-2 is entering into new sylvatic resevoirs around the globe. This is what the Utube bloggers that put Grace into full blown Covid freakouts should be talking about. These resevoirs are natural laboratories where all sorts of recombinants slowly emerge and test the waters to see they have picked up any new tricks. Like imagine the replicative engine of Cov-S got linked up with an S protein coding region that targeted the MERS target receptor. This is something our kids to great, great grandchildren will need to be watching for.

That sounds as if the virus were willfully directing its evolutionary path. That doesn't happen. Mutations are the results of random mistakes in the genetic replication process, some of which don't matter, some of which result in a failed organism, and some of which give an advantage. The advantage of concern nowadays is a change that defeats or bypasses the mechanism of the current vaccines.

 

[dad4]

It’s the same explanation for why a very strong g d group has low vaccination rates: a mistrust of the establishment institutions. Let’s look at the record of those institutions: health authorities who have been repeatedly wrong about things (including outright lies and most especially the complete neglect of natural immunity), a pharma industry in it for the profit and which has been caught playing fast and lose with the trials, a partisan and biased media, and politicians that repeatedly broke covid rules themselves Conservative media, rightly or wrongly, is only guilty of amplifying this sentiment. It didn’t create it. Remember last year the shoe was on the other foot with even the vp expressing reservations about the “trump vaccine”

It took you a lot of words to get around to it, but you essentially agreed that the right wing media helped cause the low vax rate in right wing areas.

Basic case of decent people being misled by their institutions. Except, in this case, it was the right wing talk show hosts who did the misleading.

 

[crush]

Since I doubt you'll get anything back on this.....the virus can keep mutating, in fact a rapid rate of genetic change is hard wired in multiple ways into its replicative cycle. The argument is just classic evolutionary theory. The idea is that at some point the virus has come close to genetically optimizing its interaction with the Ace2 receptor and other potential rate limiting steps in infection. Further improvement of those steps becomes difficult to achieve and marginal in effect. CoV-2 will be as turbo charged as it can get. That's the "run out of mutations" thing. Its "run out of mutations that can be selected for in a way that increases viral replicative potential".

What's a virus to do? The only way around that genetic limit is to completely recast it's targeting strategy. Which is possible, especially now that CoV-2 is entering into new sylvatic resevoirs around the globe. This is what the Utube bloggers that put Grace into full blown Covid freakouts should be talking about. These resevoirs are natural laboratories where all sorts of recombinants slowly emerge and test the waters to see they have picked up any new tricks. Like imagine the replicative engine of Cov-S got linked up with an S protein coding region that targeted the MERS target receptor. This is something our kids to great, great grandchildren will need to be watching for.

I agree, the fear virus is taking my pals hostage. No amount of boosters can save you. Nothing can stop what is coming evil. God brought us to learn how to live with knowing good & evil. I always saw it as "good vs evil." No no no no, I had it all wrong. God wanted us to eat of the tree of good & evil. He even told Adam "when you eat of it....." meaning, you will eat it because I want you to. He even brought Eve to help him eat of the tree of good and evil. Still, that wasn't enough so he brought the craft serpent to "help" Eve eat it. We had it all backwards and the way the English language is used to trick people, well then you can take words and twist them the way you them to be. Q. Why would God put the tree of good and evil in the garden of eden if he didnt want us to know what he knows, which is also good and evil. It's a choice P.S. I didnt ask to be born on this planet. I was brought here. My wife thinks I volunteered to join this mission. I know one thing. I pick Good and see Evil as all it is. It's just shadow really. We like to come up with fearful names. I hope that helps you out today as the country falls a part.

 

[espola]

Yes and the other argument is that it tries to recast its targeting strategy but fails…collapsing it’s ability to reproduce. I put it inartfully, but that’s what they in essence think has happened in Japan where covid collapsed unexpectedly even though seasonally it’s busting at the seams in South Korea.

So all the billions (trillions?) of virus particles existing in Japan (each of which is an independent possible source of mutations) evolved down the same path?

 

[Desert Hound]

Do you have a better explanation for the ridiculously low vaccine rate among Republicans?

So you are just guessing then.

A question to ask you is why is the group with the lowest vax rate one that is the most reliable D voting block? IE blacks?

You just don't hear or read in the right side press anti vax sentiments/stories. Pretty much to a T they will all say get vaxxed.

They will argue strongly against mandates and other silly gov intrusions into life.

To be honest the only side that did express concern about the vax came from D politicians in the run up to the last presidential election. One could also find stories from the left side expressing skepticism about trumps vaccines.

The vast vast majority of the population has no real risk. I think many people look at that fact and determine what they want to do vaxx wise.

Throughout the country the high risk groups have been vaxxed at high rates. In other words the people at risk have made their choice.

At this point who cares? People have decided whether they want to get vaxxed or not.

Time to move on.

 

[dad4]

Yes and the other argument is that it tries to recast its targeting strategy but fails…collapsing it’s ability to reproduce. I put it inartfully, but that’s what they in essence think has happened in Japan where covid collapsed unexpectedly even though seasonally it’s busting at the seams in South Korea.

Your argument is that the virus in Japan ran out of productive mutations, but the virus in other countries did not?

What a fascinating theory. It is bat shit crazy, but fascinating.

 

[Grace T.]

So all the billions (trillions?) of virus particles existing in Japan (each of which is an independent possible source of mutations) evolved down the same path?

where did I say that? I specifically said it's not likely to even hold up with COVID because omicron is going to get there, undoing the viral collapse (if that's what even happened) that occurred. I acknowledge that it's a possibility, not that it's a universal truth. again, that comprehension thing is eluding you.

 

[Grace T.]

Your argument is that the virus in Japan ran out of productive mutations, but the virus in other countries did not?

What a fascinating theory. It is bat shit crazy, but fascinating.

Not my argument. That Japanese epidemiologist. I don't have the chops to evaluate whether its bat shit crazy or not. And even he admitted it's probably an evolutionary fluke.

The reason YOU wouldn't like him is the explanation from his study as to why initial COVID didn't take too much of a hold in Asia is prior immunity to other coronaviruses.

 

[Grace T.]

It took you a lot of words to get around to it, but you essentially agreed that the right wing media helped cause the low vax rate in right wing areas.

Basic case of decent people being misled by their institutions. Except, in this case, it was the right wing talk show hosts who did the misleading.

Yes, I think they helped. But no, I don't think the explanation is as simplistic as you make it out to be. Any more than the left wing media caused African Americans to be skeptical of the vaccine. World is much more complicated than you want it to be (you see it even when you defend the models, which is why they fail).

 

[EvilGoalie 21]

Yes and the other argument is that it tries to recast its targeting strategy but fails…collapsing it’s ability to reproduce. I put it inartfully, but that’s what they in essence think has happened in Japan where covid collapsed unexpectedly even though seasonally it’s busting at the seams in South Korea.

For the virus, doesn't work that way. The only selective pressure so to speak is for bigger and faster. Natural selection is like a D1 soccer coach on a white plastic folding chair. consider genetically altered sterile mosquitos for example. the mosquitos aren't going to breed up sterility on their own. Makes no sense. Have to engineer it up and then flood the zone. same thing with the virus, it's not going to select for something that causes it to collapse. Doesn't mean such a combination of mutations is not possible, in fact most mutations are detrimental. Just means no way to drive such mutations forward in a larger population.

all this "unexpected" its up here, its down there is a few new emergent variants sloshing around from place to place globe with 6-10 month periodicity based on the timing of previous waves, vaccination campaigns, the waning of first round immunity in terms of ciculating Ab titers, all kinds of stuff. Once that periodicity settles down people will stop paying attention.

 

[crush]

Yes, I think they helped. But no, I don't think the explanation is as simplistic as you make it out to be. Any more than the left wing media caused African Americans to be skeptical of the vaccine. World is much more complicated than you want it to be (you see it even when you defend the models, which is why they fail).

I can say with certainty most parents I know WHO got the jab are NOT having their precious kiddos get jabbed. it's one thing to take one for the team, it's another to sacrifice your child for the team. We will ALL find out what this was all about. Let's all be patient and not overreact. The Military will sort it all out and not the courts. Everyone has a little or a lot of dirt on them. NSA has all the cell phones recorded, all text and emails captured real time. Drones and satellite are everywhere so no one escapes this game. Revelations was clear that everything someone has done is recorded. NSA has it all. Do good you guys and good will come to you. Do evil and you will live with evil. Simple.

 

[espola]

So you are just guessing then.

A question to ask you is why is the group with the lowest vax rate one that is the most reliable D voting block? IE blacks?

You just don't hear or read in the right side press anti vax sentiments/stories. Pretty much to a T they will all say get vaxxed.

They will argue strongly against mandates and other silly gov intrusions into life.

To be honest the only side that did express concern about the vax came from D politicians in the run up to the last presidential election. One could also find stories from the left side expressing skepticism about trumps vaccines.

The vast vast majority of the population has no real risk. I think many people look at that fact and determine what they want to do vaxx wise.

Throughout the country the high risk groups have been vaxxed at high rates. In other words the people at risk have made their choice.

At this point who cares? People have decided whether they want to get vaxxed or not.

Time to move on.

The US Black population has a higher vaccination rate than the average of the counties that supported t in 2020.