Vaccine
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Desert Hound
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Another country realizes it cannot fight reality.
The only question is how long it takes other countries to come to that conclusion.
apnews.com
The only question is how long it takes other countries to come to that conclusion.
Rowdy celebrations erupt in Norway as COVID restrictions end
Police in Norway have reported dozens of disturbances and violent clashes including mass brawls in the Nordic country’s big cities after streets, bars, restaurants and nightclubs were filled with people celebrating the end of COVID-19 restrictions.
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Good article on relative risks and age. The risks to unvaccinated children are less than the risks in vaccinated adults and there's 7x as much hospitalization risk from RSV. Age is still the greatest predictor of risk even with vaccines (which essentially bump you down a few decades in risk). It's why they are trying boosters in the elderly, even though they aren't sure what the benefit might be and how much it really lowers you down the age bracketts.
Bruddah IZ
DA
q.e.d.
Desert Hound
DA
The sad thing about the article is that the NY Mag and most other major news outlets have hyped covid without discussing age related risks.
The lack of self reflection is shown in the headline of the article.
The Public Continues to Underestimate COVID’s Age Discrimination
If our press had actually provided data to the public regarding age and risk, you would not see the above headline.
The rest of the article is fine. We just needed this type of data getting out to the public from early on. And by early on, it was apparent 2 or so months in who was really at risk. And those who are at risk have not really changed since.
GoldenGate
GOLD
Good thing unvaccinated children don't transmit Covid to adults. Now if only we can stop the spontaneous generation of Covid in hospitals and nursing homes. We know that employees aren't getting it from their kids and bringing it into work - since we know it spontaneously generates among old people.
It's so weird that anti-vaxxers are so "worried" about a virus that kills maybe 14,000 annually in a bad year, but not one that kills 600,000. It's almost, no exactly, like they're feigning concern and using it as one of a million excuses to rationalize why they're ok killing everyone over 65 because they're so mentally weak that wearing a mask and getting vaccinated is too much for them.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
It's what happens when a "free" press prioritizes a cause over informing the public. Way too much, "you can't handle the truth". They undermine trust and give a big assist to conspiracy theory advocates.
Turns out the whole anti-vax movement is an evil plot by Howard Stern and Nancy Pelosi.
The idea is to trick Republicans into refusing the vaccine, thus giving Democrats a very slight edge in every swing district in the country. And you guys fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
www.breitbart.com
I think mini-EOTL was in on it, too.
The idea is to trick Republicans into refusing the vaccine, thus giving Democrats a very slight edge in every swing district in the country. And you guys fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
Nolte: Howard Stern Proves Democrats Want Unvaccinated Trump Voters Dead
Do you want to know why I think Howard Stern is going full-monster with his mockery of three fellow human beings who died of the coronavirus? Because leftists like Stern and CNNLOL and Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Anthony Fauci are deliberately looking to manipulate Trump supporters into not...
www.breitbart.com
I think mini-EOTL was in on it, too.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Stop Clownin’ around.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Anti-immune system movement zealots are sounding awful desperate nowadays.Turns out the whole anti-vax movement is an evil plot by Howard Stern and Nancy Pelosi.
The idea is to trick Republicans into refusing the vaccine, thus giving Democrats a very slight edge in every swing district in the country. And you guys fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
Nolte: Howard Stern Proves Democrats Want Unvaccinated Trump Voters Dead
Do you want to know why I think Howard Stern is going full-monster with his mockery of three fellow human beings who died of the coronavirus? Because leftists like Stern and CNNLOL and Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and Anthony Fauci are deliberately looking to manipulate Trump supporters into not...
I think mini-EOTL was in on it, too.
GoldenGate
GOLD
Sorry it wasn't colorful enough for you to take seriously, so I fixed it....
Good thing unvaccinated children don't transmit Covid to adults. Now if only we can stop the spontaneous generation of Covid in hospitals and nursing homes. We know that employees aren't getting it from their kids and bringing it into work - since we know it spontaneously generates among old people.
It's so weird that anti-vaxxers are so "worried" about a virus that kills maybe 14,000 annually in a bad year, but not one that kills 600,000. It's almost, no exactly, like they're feigning concern and using it as one of a million excuses to rationalize why they're ok killing everyone over 65 because they're so mentally weak that wearing a mask and getting vaccinated is too much for them
Desert Hound
DA
They are giving misinformation in a sense by not providing context.
The implication being if you just looked at headlines, etc of the major news orgs one would think the virus is deadly across age groups. That in turn has lead people/politicians to do/demand things that do not correlate with actual risk.
It has to be intentional on their part because the data has been there regarding age and risk. This data has been readily available and yet they frame their stories in a way that doesn't match up with data.
Classic example? Schools, kids and vaccines.
“Evidence from studies primarily done before vaccine approval for those 12 years of age and older suggests that staff-to-staff transmission is more common than transmission from students to staff, staff to student, or student to student.46, 50, 54 For example, in the large UK study, most outbreak cases were associated with an index case (initial case) in a staff member.46 Therefore, school interventions should include prevention strategies to reduce the transmission potential of staff members.” -CDC
Odd. Where did all those community based adult cases come from again?… you know the ones that didn’t magically come from the 5yr olds in Kindergarten?
GoldenGate
GOLD
Apparently the definition of "more common" now means "always" to anti-vaxxers. It is "more common" that people will die from cancer, so don't get vaccinated or wear seat belts, right? It is "more common" for people to miss than hit when they shoot at people, so therefore the person lying face down with the bullet wound must have died "with" covid.
It is literally insane that these nut jobs can misrepresent what words mean from two sentences in a CDC report that specifically states that team sports increase the risk of transmission, strongly recommends that students get vaccinated and that unvaccinated wear mask at schools and explains with data why that is the case.
If you want to be a ‘nutter’ and call everyone anti-vaccine for pointing out your gross overstatements, fine by me. Wallow in your hyperboles and enjoy the lack of credibility and influence that comes without civil discourse.
If only those awful birthers would stop having kids we wouldn’t have to worry about it, right?
New avatar, new name to call people.
ETOL - Trumpanzees
GG - anti-vaxxer
Just has nothing better to do than insight arguments.