Vaccine

Watch the Audit in AZ 9/24 1pm. 9/23 is a day you dont want to mess with. All of this is a distraction about the kids and all the human trafficking. It's pure evil what these monsters have done to kids. I was going to be served on a platter to some evil pricks who have no regard for human life, let alone for the truth but my foster mom saved me. This is for reals fellas. Scottish Rite, 33 and so much more hidden evil that no one seem to know about. One big secret society of pure shit. The devil's language is Lie, not Thai remember that. I'm here for anyone who needs deeper understanding that were not just on earth to make a buck, get kids in college anyway means possible, retire, get sick and then die alone and not know where to go after death. That is some serious fear of the unknown. I'm here to say death is actually a celebration of the best is yet to come. The first shall be last and last shall be first.

Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chucri has resigned.

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Calvin says it was destined to happen. (Try doesn’t matter)

Hobbes thinks man, by nature, is nasty, brutish, and short. (They’re going to resist)

Currently the brutish are saying that is was destined to happen. I’m not sure what to make of that. ;)
Calvin, by nature, isn’t really a “try hard“ kind of kid.

Being a boy of destiny is one way to avoid effort.
 
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We could also vaccinate the adults, then open up. That would work, too. Maybe with a little less collateral damage.
Here is the thing.

- The people that have wanted to get vaxxed have.
- Vaxxed or not with delta both groups spread the covid (your article by the way referenced ALPHA not DELTA). So being vaxxed doesn't stop the spread of the virus.
- So at this point it is time to move on.
 
if your argument is the vaccinated must be protected from the unvaccinated you are basically saying the vaccines don’t work so what are we arguing about
That is in essence what dad and many others seem to be arguing....ie get vaccinated to help the vaccinated. And yet at the same time fail to realize that with delta the vaccinated spread the virus at rates pretty close to the unvaccinated.

At the point...what is the point?

People have made their choice. Time to move on.
 
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Here is the thing.

- The people that have wanted to get vaxxed have.
- Vaxxed or not with delta both groups spread the covid (your article by the way referenced ALPHA not DELTA). So being vaxxed doesn't stop the spread of the virus.
- So at this point it is time to move on.

How does that plan work for the kids who keep filling up pediatric ICU beds in low vax states?

Pediatric covid hospitalization rate is about 1.4 per 100K, higher for younger kids. Roughly 1/4 of those admitted go to the ICU.


The low vax states have about 8.4 pediatric covid admissions per million kids per day. That’s more than 3 times the average in high vax states.


Put another way, pediatric covid hospitalizations are both real and somewhat common. Vaccinating adults appears to prevent more than 3/4 of these cases.

If you want to know how common,daily pediatric hospital admissions recently topped 300.


If the delta surge lasts 100 days, that’s about 30,000 pediatric covid hospitalizations, most of which could have been prevented if the adults had gotten their shots.
 
How does that plan work for the kids who keep filling up pediatric ICU beds in low vax states?

Pediatric covid hospitalization rate is about 1.4 per 100K, higher for younger kids. Roughly 1/4 of those admitted go to the ICU.


The low vax states have about 8.4 pediatric covid admissions per million kids per day. That’s more than 3 times the average in high vax states.


Put another way, pediatric covid hospitalizations are both real and somewhat common. Vaccinating adults appears to prevent more than 3/4 of these cases.

If you want to know how common,daily pediatric hospital admissions recently topped 300.


If the delta surge lasts 100 days, that’s about 30,000 pediatric covid hospitalizations, most of which could have been prevented if the adults had gotten their shots.
Hey dad, you gave it your all bro but you should go away humble. You look lame and dumb now. Romania just closed all their Vax doors. 70% of the country told Soros and his crew to F off and no more lies.
 
U of Waterloo in CA took a look at masks.

Surgical masks? At MOST stop about 10% of the virus. They are fans of the n95s.

What was pointed out at the beginning of the covid mask mandates and laughed off by guys like dad and others is the fact that in surgical masks, the air is just redirected...both in and out. You aren't filtering much at all. Which ties in with all those decades of studies showing surgical masks don't stop the spread of respiratory illnesses.

Here is a video from their study showing that the masks just move the air in a different direction.

 
When Diktats and Conscience conflict

Grotius taught European rulers their accountability to their subjects, to God, and to nature. He taught that the individual human being, as such, has natural rights. He taught rulers, through conscience and justice, to moderate their rule and their conflicts. There is a direct line from Grotius to Adam Smith’s “liberal plan of equality, liberty, and justice” and to what Deirdre McCloskey calls The Great Enrichment.

Grotius was a great liberal because he saw that everyone has moral agency, as an individual: Rulers are to be judged by the ruled. Everyone has the capacity and the responsibility to judge. Even in war, he suggested that all declarations of war be “accompanied by a declaration of the cause of the war; that the whole human race, as it were, might judge of its justice.” Citing Aristotle, he insisted, “Justice is a virtue which belongs to man as man.”

We are not slavish tools of autocrats or government agencies. “Stratocles was laughed at in Athens for proposing a law that whatever was thought good by Demetrius, should be reckoned right and pious.” We laugh at Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook for shutting down discourse that challenges whatever they pretend to regard as the Mount Olympus of Covid wisdom.
 
How does that plan work for the kids who keep filling up pediatric ICU beds in low vax states?
Kids are not filling up ICU beds.

The CDC tracks this.

The CDC’s Associated Hospital Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) collects age-specific hospitalization data for COVID-19. Through September 11, 2021, the week with the highest number of hospitalizations for children under 18 during the Delta wave, 117 children in its network were hospitalized with COVID-19.

So when you post stories that say the HIGHEST number ever, etc. The above is the actual number. And it is extremely SMALL.

It is also important to note that they are tracking kids WITH covid in the hospital. That doesn't separate out the fact that many of them are there because of other reasons and have then been tested as having COVID.

Follow the data @dad4
 
U of Waterloo in CA took a look at masks.

Surgical masks? At MOST stop about 10% of the virus. They are fans of the n95s.

What was pointed out at the beginning of the covid mask mandates and laughed off by guys like dad and others is the fact that in surgical masks, the air is just redirected...both in and out. You aren't filtering much at all. Which ties in with all those decades of studies showing surgical masks don't stop the spread of respiratory illnesses.

Here is a video from their study showing that the masks just move the air in a different direction.

Shocking isn’t it?
 
How does that plan work for the kids who keep filling up pediatric ICU beds in low vax states?

Pediatric covid hospitalization rate is about 1.4 per 100K, higher for younger kids. Roughly 1/4 of those admitted go to the ICU.


The low vax states have about 8.4 pediatric covid admissions per million kids per day. That’s more than 3 times the average in high vax states.


Put another way, pediatric covid hospitalizations are both real and somewhat common. Vaccinating adults appears to prevent more than 3/4 of these cases.

If you want to know how common,daily pediatric hospital admissions recently topped 300.


If the delta surge lasts 100 days, that’s about 30,000 pediatric covid hospitalizations, most of which could have been prevented if the adults had gotten their shots.
a. Ah pediatric cases. The last redoubt for the panicked.
b. You aren’t going to eliminate it completely if the vaccinated can still transmit (and before you say yeah masks newsoms kids got it despite being masked)
c. It’s already been shown there is an overcount in the number of kids hospitalized from covid
d. It’s already been shown an unvaccinated under 12 has a lower death and hospitalization risk than a vaxxed 40 year okd
e. It’s already been shown flu carries 2x the hospitalization risk for kids under 12 and rsv carries 4x the hospitalization risk
f. The new study I was reading out of the uk shows that 30% of the hospitalizations were for under 1s…no shot on the horizon for them…best that can be done as with pertussis is vaxx their folks
 
a. Ah pediatric cases. The last redoubt for the panicked.
b. You aren’t going to eliminate it completely if the vaccinated can still transmit (and before you say yeah masks newsoms kids got it despite being masked)
c. It’s already been shown there is an overcount in the number of kids hospitalized from covid
d. It’s already been shown an unvaccinated under 12 has a lower death and hospitalization risk than a vaxxed 40 year okd
e. It’s already been shown flu carries 2x the hospitalization risk for kids under 12 and rsv carries 4x the hospitalization risk
f. The new study I was reading out of the uk shows that 30% of the hospitalizations were for under 1s…no shot on the horizon for them…best that can be done as with pertussis is vaxx their folks
Ps anyone who has a one or under at this point knew what they were jumping into and most of the hospitalization are to monitor as you have to watch that group carefully due to sids risk.
 
Also perspective.

The press doesn't report on most illnesses like they do with covid. So you are unaware of what goes on so to speak.

@dad4 is freaked out about relatively small numbers of kids in the hospital who have ALSO been tested with covid. Unlikely they are there because of covid. That said...here is a number or fact that puts kids and hospitals into more perspective. Grace T has mentioned RSV many times.

According to the CDC, 58,000 children under the age of five are hospitalized for RSV annually.
 
How does that plan work for the kids who keep filling up pediatric ICU beds in low vax states?

Pediatric covid hospitalization rate is about 1.4 per 100K, higher for younger kids. Roughly 1/4 of those admitted go to the ICU.


The low vax states have about 8.4 pediatric covid admissions per million kids per day. That’s more than 3 times the average in high vax states.


Put another way, pediatric covid hospitalizations are both real and somewhat common. Vaccinating adults appears to prevent more than 3/4 of these cases.

If you want to know how common,daily pediatric hospital admissions recently topped 300.


If the delta surge lasts 100 days, that’s about 30,000 pediatric covid hospitalizations, most of which could have been prevented if the adults had gotten their shots.
Kids are not filling up ICU beds.

The CDC tracks this.

The CDC’s Associated Hospital Surveillance Network (COVID-NET) collects age-specific hospitalization data for COVID-19. Through September 11, 2021, the week with the highest number of hospitalizations for children under 18 during the Delta wave, 117 children in its network were hospitalized with COVID-19.

So when you post stories that say the HIGHEST number ever, etc. The above is the actual number. And it is extremely SMALL.

It is also important to note that they are tracking kids WITH covid in the hospital. That doesn't separate out the fact that many of them are there because of other reasons and have then been tested as having COVID.

Follow the data @dad4
Dad lost his credibility long ago.
 
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