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Does Kaeperprick have a job yet? It's been 5 years of throwing button hooks to middle schoolers. What's the update? Has anyone lowered their affirmative action bar enough for him to be included?
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Does Kaeperprick have a job yet? It's been 5 years of throwing button hooks to middle schoolers. What's the update? Has anyone lowered their affirmative action bar enough for him to be included?
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Probably drinking some nice Vodka
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TMZ? You and your fucking sources. What's wrong... no Wikipedia article on it yet? The inside of the restaurant was on fire. If your eyes are that bad, stop trying to impress me with your credible sources.
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Why not? Your rainbow flag is the perfect garage rag.
I love those Russian mamas. Can you send me a pic of yours?
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They're being murdered by their own because of their race. They're being killed by cops because they're stupid criminals.
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How is taking a knee brave? Are you kidding me? A pampered athlete taking a knee is even remotely comparable? He didn't die for equality.. he died for the the flag as a symbol of the country, what those that came before him did to keep it alive, and what it can be. wow.. just wow.
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The flag does represent equality sure but that is not all. Believe it or not America was much different than the rest of the world at that time. We were one of the very few republics where a person could be anything they wanted to be not constrained by a class system or monarchy. That is what I meant hence the "what it can be". But thank you for the prompt.
You think America today is not significantly more equal than it was in 1870?
Holy Crap. You really, really suck at history.
Pick up a book about the early klan or the plains Indian wars. Educate yourself before you spout your nonsense.
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Do you know your idiot CornRow Joe said he's running for the senate on Super Thursday?
Dude, seriously, you guys have really pretty women there.
There is an arson fire. There is a video of a person appearing to be committing arson at the scene. Is this too difficult for you?
It should be enough that they aren’t slaves anymore. They should be happy the Klan and the police aren’t killing them at nearly the same rate as when America used to be great?
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For the 18000th time his protest isn't about the flag. Look up the story of why Colin Kaepernick decided to kneel. Nate Boyer, Army Ranger suggested he do so. 4 years ago, if people had paid attention, intead of mocking him and making this an unnecessary Culture War, we would not be here with more dead African Americans at the hands of police.
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Serious question. Aren't people who kneel during the playing of the national anthem in fact doing so as a tactic for the express purpose of eliciting outrage? But for the outrage, how would kneeling during the anthem draw attention to anything? If nobody cared that it was being done, would it have been a good tool to choose? I completely agree that the purpose of the protest has nothing to do with the flag or the military or the anthem for many (others have refused to sing the anthem because they find it, and particularly certain parts of the long form of it, to be racist - it may be about the anthem itself among other things to them, which I find to be perfectly reasonable in that case). But the use of the anthem was an intentional tool to offend people and through that response draw attention to the point of the protest. If Nate Boyer says sitting would not be OK, but kneeling is and Kaepernick accepts that view and thus kneels, would sitting then have made the protest about the flag instead of about police brutality and racial injustice? Why am I am dumbass if I think the tactic is disrespectful? Is Boyer a dumbass because he disagreed with sitting?
Might Sgt. Carney disagree with kneeling? Seems to me like Sgt. Carney would have pretty good standing to take a position on this issue. Maybe he would disagree, maybe he wouldn't. But given his effort to keep the flag off the ground, I think there is a good chance it wouldn't be his preferred tactic. People can reject a tactic without rejecting an idea or a message. I can think murdering George Floyd was disgusting, vicious and criminal and still think burning down business in his name is a bad tactic. And if enough people reject a tactic, it doesn't move forward the idea. I believe in a person's right to burn the flag, spit on the flag, desecrate the flag; it is part of what makes America different and better than those other countries around the world that will, today, kill a person and imprison that person's family for doing it. That doesn't mean I don't wish the athletes who are going to kneel in the future would choose a less divisive tactic. And the more who kneel, the less outrageous it will be, the more numb to it people will become, and the more hardened and closed minded some people will be to the real subject of the protest on the basis of the tactic alone. For many, it gives them an excuse to deflect the real point. Racial justice and equality will require a collective effort across many segments of society. My view is that the ball is moved further, faster and in a more sustainable manner with more collective action, more buy in across those many segments and more respect for each other. Is kneeling accomplishing anything productive? Is shaming Drew Brees accomplishing anything productive? What made a difference in the last two weeks was not Kaepernick or Rapinoe or looting or burning buildings or public contrition from celebrities. What made a difference was the revulsion at seeing George Floyd die as he did and the utter indifference to his life on the face of Chauvin. Kaepernick's socks are a distraction, not a message - at least to those people who do not already agree with him, and isn't it those other people whose minds need to open and change in order to effect the desired outcomes? Otherwise, why would protest be necessary?
I doubt that the America of today is the America that Sgt. Carney was fighting to achieve. The America of his day surely wasn't. But the America he hoped for, well, that's different. That's remarkable. That's aspirational. That is something I wish all of us would hope for and treat with respect. I suppose it comes down to whether people see the flag is a symbol of what America has been or is today as an end product or whether they see it as a symbol of a set of ideas that we should continue to work to achieve. I understand that the lived experience of many causes them to feel differently about the flag than I do. It doesn't make them dumbasses in my mind. It just means I see it differently. I am not sure why it should make me a dumbass or a racist in theirs. My view of America doesn't give me license to take its ideals for granted or to be indifferent if other people do not have the opportunity to live under it with the same safety and opportunity that I do. Making that better in the ways that I can is my responsibility and an obligation to my view of what the flag represents. America isn't perfect, but I still love it, would die protecting it and, most importantly, hope for and believe in its future.
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The restaurant is already on fire and some black dude pretends a white woman is trying to set it. Can you not see how bright it is inside the fucking place while she stands there? That's not from a dumpster fire outside, moron.
I guess, if he REALLY had a problem with it, he'd turn off his phone and stop her.
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How should they feel about the fact that they kill each other 7 times per day; everyday?