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You know who doesn't get shot by police? Violent hood rats too fucking stupid to follow basic rules and laws.
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You know who doesn't get shot by police? Violent hood rats too fucking stupid to follow basic rules and laws.
You mean stupid criminals like this? Did he get what you think he deserved? How do you not see contradiction?
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A taser can lead to a cop being unable to contain his service revolver. But again, it's the same bullshit with you guys. Absolutely zero fucking accountability in every case. None. None of it is ever the black man's fault. And when it is, like the black woman that was just murdered by a black man while protesting, you flat out don't give a single flying fuck.
Coocoo.
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George Floyd had been arrested, handcuffed, and placed in the back seat of a police car, still alive, minutes before he was murdered.
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We're back to the violent hood rat Floyd again? The 19-year old black girl was alive before a black man murdered her. Captain Dorn was alive and doing his job before a black man murdered him. Calvin Munerlyn was alive and doing his job before 2 black people murdered him.
What's your point?
I forgot to mention the embarrassment of peeing his pants.
The acceptable standard can’t be as long as they’re not shot or dead. Whether you acknowledge it or not, there is very different treatment based off of race and even skin shade. Do 5x more ‘Jerry’s’ get killed than blacks? ‘Jerry’s’ make up 76% of the population vs. 13% (US Census). Those facts don’t matter to you or any that don’t fit your view.
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Who, the cop? What do you think the hood rat did once his dead ass said to himself, "that was fucking stupid"?
I wonder if the man you call a boot licking uncle tom is the man I call a devoted father, good neighbor, and helpful member of the PTA.
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They do matter... but they don't because black people swear, up and down, they're constantly being harassed for no reason. You don't get to bitch about that and play the only 13% game. You don't get to have it both ways.
I'll tell you who kills the most black people... black people. 90% more. That's all ANYBODY needs to know.
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Serious question. Aren't people who kneel during the playing of the national anthem in fact doing so as a tactic for the express purpose of eliciting outrage? But for the outrage, how would kneeling during the anthem draw attention to anything? If nobody cared that it was being done, would it have been a good tool to choose? I completely agree that the purpose of the protest has nothing to do with the flag or the military or the anthem for many (others have refused to sing the anthem because they find it, and particularly certain parts of the long form of it, to be racist - it may be about the anthem itself among other things to them, which I find to be perfectly reasonable in that case). But the use of the anthem was an intentional tool to offend people and through that response draw attention to the point of the protest. If Nate Boyer says sitting would not be OK, but kneeling is and Kaepernick accepts that view and thus kneels, would sitting then have made the protest about the flag instead of about police brutality and racial injustice? Why am I am dumbass if I think the tactic is disrespectful? Is Boyer a dumbass because he disagreed with sitting?
Might Sgt. Carney disagree with kneeling? Seems to me like Sgt. Carney would have pretty good standing to take a position on this issue. Maybe he would disagree, maybe he wouldn't. But given his effort to keep the flag off the ground, I think there is a good chance it wouldn't be his preferred tactic. People can reject a tactic without rejecting an idea or a message. I can think murdering George Floyd was disgusting, vicious and criminal and still think burning down business in his name is a bad tactic. And if enough people reject a tactic, it doesn't move forward the idea. I believe in a person's right to burn the flag, spit on the flag, desecrate the flag; it is part of what makes America different and better than those other countries around the world that will, today, kill a person and imprison that person's family for doing it. That doesn't mean I don't wish the athletes who are going to kneel in the future would choose a less divisive tactic. And the more who kneel, the less outrageous it will be, the more numb to it people will become, and the more hardened and closed minded some people will be to the real subject of the protest on the basis of the tactic alone. For many, it gives them an excuse to deflect the real point. Racial justice and equality will require a collective effort across many segments of society. My view is that the ball is moved further, faster and in a more sustainable manner with more collective action, more buy in across those many segments and more respect for each other. Is kneeling accomplishing anything productive? Is shaming Drew Brees accomplishing anything productive? What made a difference in the last two weeks was not Kaepernick or Rapinoe or looting or burning buildings or public contrition from celebrities. What made a difference was the revulsion at seeing George Floyd die as he did and the utter indifference to his life on the face of Chauvin. Kaepernick's socks are a distraction, not a message - at least to those people who do not already agree with him, and isn't it those other people whose minds need to open and change in order to effect the desired outcomes? Otherwise, why would protest be necessary?
I doubt that the America of today is the America that Sgt. Carney was fighting to achieve. The America of his day surely wasn't. But the America he hoped for, well, that's different. That's remarkable. That's aspirational. That is something I wish all of us would hope for and treat with respect. I suppose it comes down to whether people see the flag is a symbol of what America has been or is today as an end product or whether they see it as a symbol of a set of ideas that we should continue to work to achieve. I understand that the lived experience of many causes them to feel differently about the flag than I do. It doesn't make them dumbasses in my mind. It just means I see it differently. I am not sure why it should make me a dumbass or a racist in theirs. My view of America doesn't give me license to take its ideals for granted or to be indifferent if other people do not have the opportunity to live under it with the same safety and opportunity that I do. Making that better in the ways that I can is my responsibility and an obligation to my view of what the flag represents. America isn't perfect, but I still love it, would die protecting it and, most importantly, hope for and believe in its future.
wrt the national anthem, calling out slaves who had "joined" the British army to fight against the US on a promise of freedom, while lauding freemen fighting for their freedom maybe shows that the writer failed to see the irony, hypocrisy and implicit racism therein.
You could maybe draw a straight line to Sgt. Carney and correlate the two, whereby the central premise would be that slaves were prepared to risk all under any flag or for any army that would promise them freedom as a reward.
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I’ll be the first to admit that there are black criminals. However, I currently stay in a neighborhood that consist of lot’s of Hell’s Angel’s. I’m cool with all of them. But they are way more rowdy than the black and Mexican thugs I know.
I’m starting to think I’m the only black person that you’ve interacted with in your entire life. FYI, all blacks are not the same just like all whites aren’t the same. Both have good and bad.
All those black people are instantly in jail...no one needs to protest for justice to be served. Your logic/math makes no sense. Killings are 3x beyond the population ratio. With all the video proof nowadays, if you don't see unfair treatment you never will. Fortunately many do and have the human empathy to stand up for others injustice even if they aren't personally impacted.
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WWII wasn't that simple IMO.
In Germany, the Nazis and the Communists had it out in the 20s & 30s for power. Germany was a basket case due to the Treaty of Versailles which bankrupt the country - the Marshall plan after WWII was the opposite on purpose, because the ToV was recognized as being a large contributor to the rise of the Nazis.
Germany, Italy & Spain had similar Fascist leadership, Germany had actively engaged in the Spanish civil war in the 30s and basically won it for Franco - he never reciprocated in WWII, smart of him.
Japan invaded China in 1937.
Germany & the Soviets signed a pact and invaded Poland from opposite sides in 1939. They hated each other but Hitler was wary of an Eastern front until he had swept up the rest of Europe & Stalin had killed his military leadership in 37 (I think) and needed time to prepare.
Japan & Germany were never natural allies, anymore than the US and the Soviets. China did their own thing and WWII brought the communists to power there, but they never liked the Soviets or anyone really.
The only place communism existed at the start of WWII was the Soviet Union. It precipitated the rise of Communism in China, and throughout Eastern Europe obviously once the Soviets "liberated" those countries (Yugoslavia aside who liberated themselves). Fascism lived on in Spain and South America.
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I'm well aware all blacks are not the same. My daughter's personal trainer is black. But this bullshit of making excuses for black criminals is why nothing changes. Furthermore, when there is no outcry from black people, when black lives are taken on a daily basis, but THIS justified rioting and looting? Sorry... no way. Not acceptable. And if it's bad cops you want to weed out, throwing punches and shooting them with tasers is about the dumbest thing you could possibly do. Good luck getting a captive audience with that strategy. Blocking streets and demanding anything. Nobody takes you seriously when you're selective about who you want justice for. People don't respect criminals.
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You are mixing issues. We are talking about police brutality not black on black crime. Save black on black crime for another day. Or is it that you have nothing of substance to say regarding the illegal use of deadly force and use black on black crime as justification for all that’s wrong in the black community? Keep blaming the victim and hope nobody sees through your BS?
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Bullshit! Black people are killing each other 7 times per day in this country. Every day of the year. You're telling me 50 murders are being solved every week? Am I supposed to pretend black people are going to snitch on each other? You're in a dream world if you believe that.
I see a lot of video. I see video of white people getting shot by police and most had it coming.
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Oh, so Dre, you want to talk about the 223 police killing per year and save the 2,570 black on black murders for another day? Really?