Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.

Interesting that you should mention 13 year olds playing against 17-18 year olds.

For sprint times, that’s roughly the same difference as between a man and a woman. About 10% faster. Enough to decide the winner in almost any foot race.

Care to address the issue, or do you just want to call everyone transphobe ten more times?

The truth hurts. If you are going to refuse to consider the legitimate the interests of trans girls, why do you expect anyone to engage with you about the interests of transphobic daddies with daughters who are terrible at soccer? But I will because it's fun and I've got some time again today.

1. It's good for your slow daughter's sake that a soccer game is not the 100m dash.
2. Even if it were, it's just a race between two children that does not matter. Even if a race is used for college recruiting, colleges recruit on time, not whether a biological girl beat a trans one. When the Connecticut Karens lost her HS race, the only negative impact to her was hurt feelings that one didn't get the medal she wanted and another didn't qualify and was therefore "deprived" the chance to come in last place in the next race. BTW, rather than the bs argument about creating separate leagues for trans girls, we can better solve your problem by making a new league specifically for emotionally feeble Karens. That way the majority of girls who don't support your transphobic agenda can continue playing ECNL with the incredibly rare trans girl, while your slow daughter can also play without having to worry that she might get raped in a bathroom, or lose a kiddie soccer game to a team with a trans girl, or see a penis in all those group showers that don't really exist in ECNL, or maybe realize that trans girls are not a threat to her way of life and that there is no hateful transphobic god, or whatever other irrational nonsense causes you and your friends lose sleep.
3. If you think it's "fair" for a 17 year old junior to play against 13 year old freshman, you really don't have a legitimate argument to protest about a 13 year old trans girl playing in her own age group. If anything, the 17 year old biological girl playing JV is less fair because she also has years of emotional and intellectual advantages that a trans girl in her own age group lacks.
4. Regardless of how much you rely on statistical averages, the reality is that the speed and athleticism of the average trans child is not the same as that of the "average" biological male. Comparing "averages" is just an excuse to deny the reality of what is happening. Never in history has there been a trans girl in ECNL or GDA who was athletically superior to any number of her own teammates. Your irrational fears that the next LeBron James and a hoard of other highly athletic biological male athlete, will "go trans" and ruin youth sports is a joke fueled only by transphobic hysteria. Probably some trans girls are faster than your unathletic daughter, sure, but that says more about her having no business on the field than any trans girl having an "unfair" physical advantage.
5. Fairness requires considering everyone's interests, not just your slow daughter's. Inclusivity, privacy, empathy and the incredibly obvious fact that winning and losing at kiddie sports is not important, all weigh in favor of allowing a trans girl to play ECNL, especially since ECNL agrees with me. If that means that your unathletic daughter who is terrible at soccer moves farther down the bench, whatever. Her interests in being the 17th best player on the team instead of 18th aren't exactly compelling.
 
Care to explain why it's perfectly acceptable for a 17 year old HS junior to play JV against a team of 13 year olds despite a four year physical, emotional and intellectual advantage, yet world is going to end if the league lets a 13 year trans girl play, even if she's playing varsity against mostly 18 year olds? Is it because winning and losing isn't important so long as everyone is the same birth gender, but "the sanctity of sports" suddenly becomes your best excuse to avoid having to admit that your real reason is that you hate trans children?
No, I can't because it is not perfectly acceptable for a 17 year old HS junior to play JV.
 
The truth hurts. If you are going to refuse to consider the legitimate the interests of trans girls, why do you expect anyone to engage with you about the interests of transphobic daddies with daughters who are terrible at soccer? But I will because it's fun and I've got some time again today.

1. It's good for your slow daughter's sake that a soccer game is not the 100m dash.
2. Even if it were, it's just a race between two children that does not matter. Even if a race is used for college recruiting, colleges recruit on time, not whether a biological girl beat a trans one. When the Connecticut Karens lost her HS race, the only negative impact to her was hurt feelings that one didn't get the medal she wanted and another didn't qualify and was therefore "deprived" the chance to come in last place in the next race. BTW, rather than the bs argument about creating separate leagues for trans girls, we can better solve your problem by making a new league specifically for emotionally feeble Karens. That way the majority of girls who don't support your transphobic agenda can continue playing ECNL with the incredibly rare trans girl, while your slow daughter can also play without having to worry that she might get raped in a bathroom, or lose a kiddie soccer game to a team with a trans girl, or see a penis in all those group showers that don't really exist in ECNL, or maybe realize that trans girls are not a threat to her way of life and that there is no hateful transphobic god, or whatever other irrational nonsense causes you and your friends lose sleep.
3. If you think it's "fair" for a 17 year old junior to play against 13 year old freshman, you really don't have a legitimate argument to protest about a 13 year old trans girl playing in her own age group. If anything, the 17 year old biological girl playing JV is less fair because she also has years of emotional and intellectual advantages that a trans girl in her own age group lacks.
4. Regardless of how much you rely on statistical averages, the reality is that the speed and athleticism of the average trans child is not the same as that of the "average" biological male. Comparing "averages" is just an excuse to deny the reality of what is happening. Never in history has there been a trans girl in ECNL or GDA who was athletically superior to any number of her own teammates. Your irrational fears that the next LeBron James and a hoard of other highly athletic biological male athlete, will "go trans" and ruin youth sports is a joke fueled only by transphobic hysteria. Probably some trans girls are faster than your unathletic daughter, sure, but that says more about her having no business on the field than any trans girl having an "unfair" physical advantage.
5. Fairness requires considering everyone's interests, not just your slow daughter's. Inclusivity, privacy, empathy and the incredibly obvious fact that winning and losing at kiddie sports is not important, all weigh in favor of allowing a trans girl to play ECNL, especially since ECNL agrees with me. If that means that your unathletic daughter who is terrible at soccer moves farther down the bench, whatever. Her interests in being the 17th best player on the team instead of 18th aren't exactly compelling.

I don't think he said soccer game is a 100m dash.

Also, thank you for calling us transphobes less than 10 times.
 
Let's here from what the Orange Man has to say on this topic. If The Lion Mr. Trump pulls off the upset in 2024, this is how he will handle things. Oh boy and oh joy, here we go again!! Buckle up buttle cups, it's about to get real gnarly!

At some point, the left will realize that it looks bad to be the only one in the room who doesn't know what a woman is.

I'll still vote for grandpa if Trump's on the ballot, but not everyone agrees with me.
 
At some point, the left will realize that it looks bad to be the only one in the room who doesn't know what a woman is.

I'll still vote for grandpa if Trump's on the ballot, but not everyone agrees with me.
Yes, I don't agree but we can still agree to disagree. We both agree that we have way too many ACL in girls soccer and the sport is like Rugby. We disagree about Grandpa and that's ok.
 
No, I can't because it is not perfectly acceptable for a 17 year old HS junior to play JV.

That happens far more frequently, so why do you and your friends keep fixating only on trans children? Also, every day there are hundreds of soccer games being played in which a 13 year old girl is playing varsity against 17 and 18 year olds. Why aren't you focused on that? And why is it ok for a 13 year old girl to play against an entire team of 18 year olds, but you lose your mind if a 13 year old plays against the alleged functional equivalent of one 18 year old?

So are you saying that you support an outright ban on HS juniors playing JV regardless of the sport or context, or do you think that CIF and schools should look at multiple factors to determine what is appropriate, such as what sport is at issue and whether it can be done safely, whether the school's main goal is development or winning JV games, the extent to which the player is likely to have a negative impact on the "sanctity" of JV sports, whether any of the kids even care, etc.? You know, like what ECNL, CIF, the NCAA and others already do?
 
At some point, the left will realize that it looks bad to be the only one in the room who doesn't know what a woman is.

I'll still vote for grandpa if Trump's on the ballot, but not everyone agrees with me.

This is such a transphobic bs trope. Literally no one believes that trans girls are biological girls. If your problem is semantics, though, feel free to ask ECNL and others to rename their girls' leagues "biological and trans girls" leagues. Problem solved.

If you're also such a transphobic f**k that you refuse to refer to someone by their preferred pronoun, you are in luck that the English language is expansive enough to allow anyone with half a brain to avoid having to use them at all. Of course, that half a brain thing opens a whole new can of worms for you.

It is curious that you feel the need to tell people that you won't vote for Trump. This is psych 101 that you are trying to convince people (including yourself) that you aren't all bad despite taking what you know is a pretty abysmal position. This is just a variation on what is called "moral licensing by proxy". You are trying to rationalize your awful beliefs on an issue by vaguely associating yourself with someone who actually isn't a shitbag.
 
Let's here from what the Orange Man has to say on this topic. If The Lion Mr. Trump pulls off the upset in 2024, this is how he will handle things. Oh boy and oh joy, here we go again!! Buckle up buttle cups, it's about to get real gnarly!


I find it fascinating that no one here seems to believe that trans girls have ever been better than their own mediocre little princesses, yet they claim that trans children constitute an existential threat to the future of youth soccer due to their overwhelming physical dominance.

How about your daughter? Was she better or worse than all the trans girls in her age group? Did she ever get trans-handled, so to speak? And I don't mean in your irrational "rape in the bathroom" kind of way. What I mean is whether your daughter was so pathetic athletically that she could not compete against teams that had a trans player.
 

Transgender Instagram model allegedly murdered dad, stabbed sister after 'argument over a laptop': prosecutors

Prosecutors said Nikki Secondino "snapped" (you think?)

Nikki spotted her daddy asleep on the couch and bashed his head in with a hammer. That's not all cops said, Nick I mean Nikki, told investigators she "grabbed my favorite German steel knife and stabbed the shit out of him," the complaint says, according to the Post.

Nikki at first tried to blame the attack on a fabricated pair of robbers during a home invasion but later admitted to being behind the bloody rampage. Just 40 minutes after police arrived at the scene, she told officers, "They took my fucking family. Two men broke into the kitchen. They left through the window in the kitchen. They stabbed my father and sister. They tied me up. They tried to rape me," court filings say.

In a 2020 interview on the "United We Rant" podcast, Nikki Secondino said she was born Nicholas Secondino but transitioned to being a woman in her late teens, adding that her dad was supportive (and all you do is stab him to death Nikki?), according to the Post. She was sent back to Rikers Island, where she remains held without bail. Please do NOT release Nikki. Sad story. Seems like a nice dad too, Super supportive and all she does is kill her old man. I feel sick.

Aaron Hernandez, Rae Carruth, Marcus Randle EL, Kevin Ware, Anthony Smith, Ray Lewis, Ray Rice. By your logic, I guess this means that heterosexual men should be barred from playing football?

So was your daughter so athletically challenged that she couldn't compete against the trans players who were her age or not?
 
This is such a transphobic bs trope. Literally no one believes that trans girls are biological girls. If your problem is semantics, though, feel free to ask ECNL and others to rename their girls' leagues "biological and trans girls" leagues. Problem solved.

If you're also such a transphobic f**k that you refuse to refer to someone by their preferred pronoun, you are in luck that the English language is expansive enough to allow anyone with half a brain to avoid having to use them at all. Of course, that half a brain thing opens a whole new can of worms for you.

It is curious that you feel the need to tell people that you won't vote for Trump. This is psych 101 that you are trying to convince people (including yourself) that you aren't all bad despite taking what you know is a pretty abysmal position. This is just a variation on what is called "moral licensing by proxy". You are trying to rationalize your awful beliefs on an issue by vaguely associating yourself with someone who actually isn't a shitbag.
I'd explain why the Democratic party has a problem here, but I'm not a biologist.

Maybe you can ask James Carville to explain it to you.
 
Literally no one believes that trans girls are biological girls. I
You are a literal idiot- there is an entire business being driven by people who are creating the idea that a trans female can become a bio female. Are you part of that idiot train? What a disgusting thing for you to say - you certainly hate women.
 
That happens far more frequently, so why do you and your friends keep fixating only on trans children? Also, every day there are hundreds of soccer games being played in which a 13 year old girl is playing varsity against 17 and 18 year olds. Why aren't you focused on that? And why is it ok for a 13 year old girl to play against an entire team of 18 year olds, but you lose your mind if a 13 year old plays against the alleged functional equivalent of one 18 year old?

So are you saying that you support an outright ban on HS juniors playing JV regardless of the sport or context, or do you think that CIF and schools should look at multiple factors to determine what is appropriate, such as what sport is at issue and whether it can be done safely, whether the school's main goal is development or winning JV games, the extent to which the player is likely to have a negative impact on the "sanctity" of JV sports, whether any of the kids even care, etc.? You know, like what ECNL, CIF, the NCAA and others already do?

Because the topic of this thread is trans kids.

I don't think you care for an answer to your questions lol
 
If you are going to refuse to consider the legitimate the interests of trans girls,
I just don’t see entering XX events as a legitimate interest of any XY athlete.

A transgirl without hormone reduction has all the advantages of being a boy, and none of the disadvantages of being a girl. Even with hormone reduction, they retain the muscle nuclei, lung capacity, and bone structure of a boy.

I do believe that transgirls have a legitimate interest in entering boys events, and being allowed to play with their XY peers.

If anything, the better question is why transgirls don’t win boys events more often. There’s no real reason they shouldn’t.
 
If anything, the better question is why transgirls don’t win boys events more often. There’s no real reason they shouldn’t.
That's why Lia "The Transgender Swimmer" that won 1st place in all female swim race is of grave concern for so many. And it's not because the 2nd place swimmer sucked and wasn't really good enough to win Gold at the Swim Meet up. This is 100% concern for 90% of us, regardless if you support Grampa or Nikki Haley. Have you heard about Felix the futbol player who was not playing much with the boys and is now Felicia? Just wait dad, this is only starting. Mike is now Michele, Robert is now Bobbi, Bret is now Britney and Bruce is Caitlyn. I like how Bruce decided to spell Caitlyn.
 
You are a literal idiot- there is an entire business being driven by people who are creating the idea that a trans female can become a bio female. Are you part of that idiot train? What a disgusting thing for you to say - you certainly hate women.

Is that what your crazy alt nutter media is feeding you? Are you losing your mind that a hoard of trans people are going to have "sex changes", rape your children, and then take over the world? You obviously have no idea what gender affirming surgery is and isn't. Gender affirming surgery can help someone become closer physically to their gender identity, but it obviously doesn't make you the other gender biologically. Although you obviously don't want to live in reality, the truth is that those who choose to undergo gender affirming procedures go through a rigorous process that involves significant counseling and discussion about what these procedures do and don't. One of the things that is almost always discussed - although anyone with a brain instead of a transphobic pos bias like you - is that although the procedures can change a person physically to be more in line with their actual gender identity, there are significant limits that do not make the the other sex biologically. The only literal idiot here is you. I hate to break this to you, but all the hysteria you see at NewsMax and OANN is b.s.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with a trans child playing kiddie sports.
 
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