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Hüsker Dü said:
You do know that many hate groups used the protests to push their views and beat up Jewish kids right? There is video and investigative reporting showing many outside agitators some middle aged men with long histories of violent anti-Semitism and yes, images of them at trump rallies.
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This idea is from the slums of Stupidville. The MSM is STARVED for legitimate stories like these. They’ve promoted various hoaxes in their efforts to paint the right as racist and antisemitic. It’s beyond moronic to compare these supposedly ignored incidents with the public displays of antisemitism and glorification of terrorism by university students and faculty as well as sitting members of congress. Even if this was true, it’s a drop in a very big bucket full of leftist antisemitism.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
This idea is from the slums of Stupidville. The MSM is STARVED for legitimate stories like these. They’ve promoted various hoaxes in their efforts to paint the right as racist and antisemitic. It’s beyond moronic to compare these supposedly ignored incidents with the public displays of antisemitism and glorification of terrorism by university students and faculty as well as sitting members of congress. Even if this was true, it’s a drop in a very big bucket full of leftist antisemitism.
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As I have said before, there is a difference between criticizing the actions of the current ruling government of Israel and anti-semitism.
 
espola said:
As I have said before, there is a difference between criticizing the actions of the current ruling government of Israel and anti-semitism.
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Apparently, you haven't been paying attention. I will repeat it again for you. The campus protests have included elements of the following (just to name a few):

From the river to the sea
Glory to our martyrs
Honor our martyrs
Intifada
Globalize Intifada
Worldwide Intifada
Say it loud, say it clear; we don’t want no Zionists here
Hey hey, ho ho; the Zionists have got to go
The final solution
Al-Qassam's next targets (pointing at Jewish students)
Hamas flags and headbands
Parachuting terrorists imagery
Physically blocking or chasing Jewish students from campus

These aren't just anti-Semitic, they support violence against Jews, even the elimination of Jews.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
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The following year, 2012, NIH’s biosecurity board signed non-disclosure agreements and met with Fauci and Collins. The board, apparently under pressure from Fauci and Collins, then revised its previous recommendation to publish the risky bird flu research.
According to Fauci and Democrats in Congress, NIH’s grant to EcoHealth Alliance did not fall under P3CO guidelines because it was not anticipated to increase a pathogen’s danger to humans, specifically.
But in emails, NIH staff expressed their concerns about EcoHealth Alliance’s work creating hybrid “chimera” MERS and SARS viruses, in order to increase their infectiousness, in 2016. NIH staff pointed out that there was a moratorium placed on that research in 2014.
Peter Daszak, the president of the EcoHealth Alliance, persuaded NIH staff to concede to a research threshold, saying EcoHealth would halt its research if the chimeras had enhanced viral growth 10 times that of the original viruses.
After reaching an agreement with NIH, Daszak specifically referred to this work as gain-of-function, writing, “This is terrific! We are very happy to hear that our Gain of Function research funding pause has been lifted. Cheers, Peter.”

Then, in 2018, EcoHealth went on to seemingly violate its agreement by producing a chimeric virus with a viral load 10,000 times greater than the original virus.
As such, Fauci, his colleagues, and the Democrats were playing word games, redefining what they mean by gain-of-function research in ways that allowed them to deny responsibility.
And that’s not all.
After the Obama administration had established a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) committee to review proposed gain-of-function projects before the NIH could approve them, Fauci and Collins knowingly sought to make changes to NIH policy in order to allow funding for riskier gain-of-function experiments. These changes included removing the committee’s ability to block projects and limiting the type of projects the committee could review.
In his testimony, Fauci misrepresented the scientific possibility that NIH funding is associated with the Covid-19 outbreak, as well as his role in the “Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” paper, which infamously and misleadingly, claimed that, “Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”

But consider how, in 2018, EcoHealth Alliance applied for a grant from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) for a project called “DEFUSE” that would involve Shi Zhengli’s lab group at WIV and Ralph Bari
c’s lab at the University of North Carolina (UNC).
Documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act reveal that the features of SARS-CoV-2 closely resemble the work described in EcoHealth Alliance’s proposal.
On February 1, 2020, Fauci and Collins
held a meeting called “Coronavirus sequence comparison” with other scientists to compare the spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13, its closest genetic relative which the NIH-funded Wuhan lab discovered. This meeting would lead to the “Proximal Origin” paper.
In the hearing, Fauci downplayed his role.

Majority Counsel Mitch Benzine:
Did Dr. Anderson send you drafts to review?

Fauci:
He sent drafts, but I'm going to jump ahead of you if I might dribble around. I did not edit it. That was mentioned by a few of the Congressmen. I did not edit the paper.

While it may be true that Fauci did not “edit” the “Proximal Origin” paper, lead author Kristian Andersen said he “prompted” it, and the authors sent him a final draft for approval.
In their private exchanges, the authors repeatedly refer to Collins and Fauci as the “Bethesda boys.” Their offices were located in Bethesda, Maryland.
The “Bethesda boys” appear to have directed some of the paper’s content. After Andersen suggested that a first draft should be sent “up the chain,” Fauci and Collins voiced concern that culturing or serial passaging (a process through which a virus can be made more infectious to humans) was still included as a possible origin.
Jeremy Farrar, head of the Wellcome Trust, then pressured the authors to remove it. Shortly after publishing the preprint, Holmes told Andersen, “Sorry the last bit had to be done without you… pressure from on high.” Fauci would go on to cite this paper as objective evidence from independent scientists.
All of this, and yet, throughout the Oversight Committee’s hearing, Democrats refused to provide oversight and criticized their colleagues who attempted to provide it. “I'm sorry for the personal attacks you have received and may have to deal with today,” said one. “Thank you, sir, and your entire team for saving lives in this country, and I'm sorry you have to continue going on with these attacks,” said another.
“The Republicans failed to find, uh, a shred of evidence of their far-fetched conspiracy linking Dr. Fauci to a cover-up of the origins of the pandemic,” said one. “Sir, do you think the American public should listen to America's brightest and best doctors and scientists? Or instead, listen to podcasters, conspiracy theorists, and unhinged Facebook memes,” asked another.
Since World War II, Democrats, liberals, and progressives have criticized their political enemies as overly deferent to authority. Today, at the hearing with Fauci and other hearings where mainstream science is questioned, they criticize their enemies for not being sufficiently deferent. What changed?
There are plainly partisan motivations behind Democrats’ overprotection of Fauci. They treat him as virtuous because he publicly criticized Trump for spreading misinformation in 2020 and has warned against right-wing “anti-vaxxers.” The Democratic Party is more aligned with unelected government employees like Fauci than the Republican Party is.
There are certainly financial motivations for this shift. Government employee unions are one of the Democratic Party’s main sources of campaign financing.
But beneath both partisanship and money lies deeply ideological and arguably religious motivations. Many Democrats treat Fauci reverentially and put him above criticism, in the same way people used to treat priests and religious figures, and not in the way scientists treat each other and should be treated, which is as fallible humans subject to questioning and criticism.
This is evident not just in relation to Covid origins but also the vaccines, which Fauci and Democrats continue to treat as sacred.
True science is a process, not a status hierarchy. It depends on disagreement and constant evaluation of new data, not efforts like those of the Democrats to enforce orthodoxy and shut down open dialogue in the name of “protecting science.”
We can support the enforcement of laws against issuing death threats and support not just freedom of speech but the necessity of government oversight. Demanding that government officials not be questioned and framing any questioning of them as abuse is a deeply authoritarian abuse of power.

The Congressional hearing today was a chilling reminder that some elected officials are far more concerned with maintaining state power, including by raising the specter of violence, than by having difficult conversations.
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Condensed version. I don’t know how they’d ever be able to make a case against Fauci. It’s way too straight-forward and wouldn’t require a short novel to give the jury as a guide to convict.

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watfly said:
Apparently, you haven't been paying attention. I will repeat it again for you. The campus protests have included elements of the following (just to name a few):

From the river to the sea
Glory to our martyrs
Honor our martyrs
Intifada
Globalize Intifada
Worldwide Intifada
Say it loud, say it clear; we don’t want no Zionists here
Hey hey, ho ho; the Zionists have got to go
The final solution
Al-Qassam's next targets (pointing at Jewish students)
Hamas flags and headbands
Parachuting terrorists imagery
Physically blocking or chasing Jewish students from campus

These aren't just anti-Semitic, they support violence against Jews, even the elimination of Jews.
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And again, is there any outside influences at work there? And for me seeing how media sources tend to take small, isolated incidents appear to be far more prevalent than they are . . .
 
Hüsker Dü said:
And again, is there any outside influences at work there? And for me seeing how media sources tend to take small, isolated incidents appear to be far more prevalent than they are . . .
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There is nothing remotely isolated about these incidents.

You sound just like Crush trying to rationalize the January 6 protests.
 
watfly said:
There is nothing remotely isolated about these incidents.

You sound just like Crush trying to rationalize the January 6 protests.
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How do you know how wide spread the hate speech is and by who?
I’m honestly just trying to understand the severity of the hate speech . . . and speaking of 1/6, I’ve said before and will say again that there was a core of groups pushing things along and the majority there were swept up in the violence. Much like I think may be the situation in the protests.
 
espola said:
This is pretty funny. Ho Chi Minhwaukee?

heartlandsignal.com

RNC website featured image of Ho Chi Minh City instead of Milwaukee

The Republican National Convention (RNC) is set to be held in Milwaukee on July 15; however, the convention’s website featured a banner image of Ho Chi Minh City in Vietnam for several months.
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That is pretty hilarious. Much more so than the damage Biden is doing to our country and Americans struggling to get by.

but hey... let's keep pretending the republicans are a mess, right Fudd?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Many Israelis are critical of their government, are they antisemitic?
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Are you that dull that you think people on this forum think that? Who has said that being critical of Israeli government is anti-Semitic? Certainly you know the difference between being critical of Israeli policy/actions VS having organized protests on city streets that call for the eradication of the Jewish state. There has to be a page in the script that you follow that discusses this? maybe? no?
 
Happened again said:
Are you that dull that you think people on this forum think that? Who has said that being critical of Israeli government is anti-Semitic? Certainly you know the difference between being critical of Israeli policy/actions VS having organized protests on city streets that call for the eradication of the Jewish state. There has to be a page in the script that you follow that discusses this? maybe? no?
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One of the most striking aspects of antisemitism today is its ability to transcend traditional ideological boundaries. Simply put, antisemitism is a hatred that can be described as a horseshoe where the far-left and the far-right are closer to one another on the issue of antisemitism than they are to the center.

 
Slobodan said:
That is pretty hilarious. Much more so than the damage Biden is doing to our country and Americans struggling to get by.

but hey... let's keep pretending the republicans are a mess, right Fudd?
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No need to pretend. It used to be the Democrats who were the dysfunctional party before the nominating conventions. Now the Republicans have proudly taken the opportunity while they spiral into trumpism.
 
espola said:
No need to pretend. It used to be the Democrats who were the dysfunctional party before the nominating conventions. Now the Republicans have proudly taken the opportunity while they spiral into trumpism.
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No platform, just whatever comes out of his mouth.
 
In honor of our old friend Crush, thought I'd post this since he's the forum's biggest advocate for protecting kids. Hear what that freak said about his favorite part being the kids in attendance? Parading around 99% naked? Skip to the 1:15 mark if you wonder why normal, well adjusted people don't support your "pride". Freaks don't need a parade... they need therapy and that's not something to be proud of.

 
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