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Hüsker Dü said:
narf.org

North Dakota Voter ID Law (Brakebill v. Jaeger) - Native American Rights Fund

In January2016, seven Native Americans from North Dakota filed suit challenging North Dakota’s recently enacted voter ID law.
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www.lwv.org

What's So Bad About Voter ID Laws? | League of Women Voters

Voter ID laws have long been debated in the United States. While supporters argue that voter photo ID laws are necessary to prevent voter fraud and ensure the integrity of elections, reality tells a different story. Not only do these measures disproportionately impact Black, Native, elderly, and...
www.lwv.org www.lwv.org

www.brennancenter.org

The Impact of Voter Suppression on Communities of Color

Studies show that new laws will disproportionately harm voters of color. Federal legislation is necessary.
www.brennancenter.org www.brennancenter.org

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Good job. In the case of the North Dakota voter ID law it was deemed unconstitutional, it obviously went too far. I don't support unconstitutional voter ID laws. There are Photo ID requirements in at least a dozen other states and those have either been deemed constitutional, or at least have not been challenged due to precedent. If we're going to require state issued photo ID in California, we should make it more accessible, so people don't have to deal with the DMV. Having a government issued ID is a benefit that goes well beyond voting. If the left was really interested in helping people they should focus on helping the poor and minorities obtain ID's, instead of just fighting voter ID laws. There are many reasons minorities and the poor may choose not to vote.

The other three links are just opinion talking points from well known progressive entities. This doesn't necessarily discredit them on their face, but they only talk about potential outcomes and ignore actual outcomes like Georgia. They also want to correlate low minority turnout with voter ID laws, I don't believe that correlation, let alone causation, has been independently proven.

I'm not that worked up about Voter ID, I mostly just find it odd that's it not required, when we require photo ID for many other minor items. For hells sake, during the pandemic I had to show vaccine status to attend public events, HIPPAA be damned.

Truth be told, I'm just pissing in the wind because there is no way that California will ever pass a photo ID for voting.
 
crush said:
Don't do it again or Husker Du will report you to Dom. I used to derail threads and many of the elites got pissed off. The more I shared, the more they got angry.
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Heaven forbid that I chime in on posts I didn't initiate. But its OK to laugh at GraceT being called the C-word.
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watfly said:
Is it your contention that voter turnout didn't increase after the new Georgia voter law was passed? (Cue evasive answer)
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You started your response by claiming that an organization dedicated to ensuring that citizens keep their right to vote is somehow "leftist".
 
Hüsker Dü said:
narf.org

North Dakota Voter ID Law (Brakebill v. Jaeger) - Native American Rights Fund

In January2016, seven Native Americans from North Dakota filed suit challenging North Dakota’s recently enacted voter ID law.
narf.org narf.org

www.lwv.org

What's So Bad About Voter ID Laws? | League of Women Voters

Voter ID laws have long been debated in the United States. While supporters argue that voter photo ID laws are necessary to prevent voter fraud and ensure the integrity of elections, reality tells a different story. Not only do these measures disproportionately impact Black, Native, elderly, and...
www.lwv.org www.lwv.org

www.brennancenter.org

The Impact of Voter Suppression on Communities of Color

Studies show that new laws will disproportionately harm voters of color. Federal legislation is necessary.
www.brennancenter.org www.brennancenter.org

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All soon to be known as "leftist".
 
watfly said:
Good job. In the case of the North Dakota voter ID law it was deemed unconstitutional, it obviously went too far. I don't support unconstitutional voter ID laws. There are Photo ID requirements in at least a dozen other states and those have either been deemed constitutional, or at least have not been challenged due to precedent. If we're going to require state issued photo ID in California, we should make it more accessible, so people don't have to deal with the DMV. Having a government issued ID is a benefit that goes well beyond voting. If the left was really interested in helping people they should focus on helping the poor and minorities obtain ID's, instead of just fighting voter ID laws. There are many reasons minorities and the poor may choose not to vote.

The other three links are just opinion talking points from well known progressive entities. This doesn't necessarily discredit them on their face, but they only talk about potential outcomes and ignore actual outcomes like Georgia. They also want to correlate low minority turnout with voter ID laws, I don't believe that correlation, let alone causation, has been independently proven.

I'm not that worked up about Voter ID, I mostly just find it odd that's it not required, when we require photo ID for many other minor items. For hells sake, during the pandemic I had to show vaccine status to attend public events, HIPPAA be damned.

Truth be told, I'm just pissing in the wind because there is no way that California will ever pass a photo ID for voting.
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HIPAA had nothing to do with it.
 
watfly said:
That's clearly apparent.
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Not sure why you brought it up then. They didn't ask your healthcare provider whether you had been vaccinated -- if they responded with a yes or no that would have been a HIPAA violation. They asked you to your face, and you had the option to not provide the information. HIPAA has nothing to say about that interaction.
 
watfly said:
My bad, I apparently misread the forum rules.
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Just seemed strange how without missing a beat you stepped right in. I had to go back and check who responded to what. All ya all sound and look the same to me as you march in lockstep all in a line like that. I guess you’re interchangeable.
 
watfly said:
Good job. In the case of the North Dakota voter ID law it was deemed unconstitutional, it obviously went too far. I don't support unconstitutional voter ID laws. There are Photo ID requirements in at least a dozen other states and those have either been deemed constitutional, or at least have not been challenged due to precedent. If we're going to require state issued photo ID in California, we should make it more accessible, so people don't have to deal with the DMV. Having a government issued ID is a benefit that goes well beyond voting. If the left was really interested in helping people they should focus on helping the poor and minorities obtain ID's, instead of just fighting voter ID laws. There are many reasons minorities and the poor may choose not to vote.

The other three links are just opinion talking points from well known progressive entities. This doesn't necessarily discredit them on their face, but they only talk about potential outcomes and ignore actual outcomes like Georgia. They also want to correlate low minority turnout with voter ID laws, I don't believe that correlation, let alone causation, has been independently proven.

I'm not that worked up about Voter ID, I mostly just find it odd that's it not required, when we require photo ID for many other minor items. For hells sake, during the pandemic I had to show vaccine status to attend public events, HIPPAA be damned.

Truth be told, I'm just pissing in the wind because there is no way that California will ever pass a photo ID for voting.
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“went too far” as in got caught?
As for the others opining about similar attempts in various other locales seems they may be detecting a trend.
 
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