Insane!!! Dude left his laptop from hell at Mac's Computer place. After 90 days, Mac owns it. Mac can do what he wants with it and he gave it to the FBI and made a few copies for himself to give to Rudy and others, just in case Mac doesn't show up. Here is espola supporting and protecting Hunter. At this point, what difference does it make. These nudes are gnarly. This article writes like these were "hacked" love scenes with Hunter's girlfriend and or wife. Oh no, we got some sick pics folks and Hunter walks free to smoke crack with the likes of espola. espola MUST support Hillary and Joe and all their family members, no matter what he says on here. This espola is a fraud.
I agree generally, although, I'm with Espola that moving probably wasn't a viable option for many. My main premise in regards to the conflict is that the innocents aren't victims of Israel they're victims of Hamas and radical Islam. Palestinians are shunned by other Arab countries because those countries fear the radical element of Palestinians and that they may radicalize other Arabs. The hard truth is that the Palestinians in power have continually chosen violence over peace for property for the last 75 years.
You do know that the overwhelming majority of (current) Gazans did not vote for Hamas in 2006 (the last election), as they were either not alive (50% of Gazans are children) or were children then. What exact stand do you think they could have made against 40,000 heavily armed homicidal maniacs, if they happened to know that Hamas were about to commit despicable horrific atrocities? But they obviously didn't know that. Who could these Gazans have spoken with to try to get "free" elections? Who was there working with them to lift them from abject poverty and provide them with a future for themselves and their children?
The West Bank hasn't been a hot bed of violence. There are outbreaks, deaths (of Palestinians mainly), arrests (of Palestinians mainly) and theft (of Palestinian land always) ... Why are Palestinians the problem of other Arab countries? Why should they take in 5 million Palestinians?
" between 2016-2020. "If you don't vote, you ain't shit." WHO are you voting for in 2024? Class is very curious.....
We've been down this road before, but you're trying to separate Palestinians from Hamas, which is a false premise. I'm not sure what you're missing from all the anti-semite protests occuring across our country. Palestinians have wide spread support for Hamas and violence both in polling and in action.
Those numbers are shall we say very suspect. They are provided by the Gaza health ministry....which is Hamas.
What could possibly be Hamas incentive for over reporting women and children deaths?
abcnews.go.com
Conflating Palestinians and Hamas as the same provides complete justification for every Palestinian death. That's too easy. I agree that polls do suggest that Gazans support Hamas. I have no idea why that is, but I also don't see that they have any alternative or that anyone is giving them an alternative, not least as Hamas would likely kill them! The PLA was an alternative, they proved themselves to be corrupt and inept, and remain so in the West Bank to this day.
I was skeptical of the numbers too, but I've seen the qualification in a variety of media that the source for the numbers is generally accurate, so they are taken as verbatim. I have also not seen much denial from Israel and in fact have seen Israeli sources stating that they have killed 10-12K Hamas fighters and acknowledging the collateral deaths which are always a multiple. Below is from the BBC (Feb) and quotes a variety of official Israeli sources - you're welcome.
www.bbc.com
Points taken. I just can't reconcile any sort of equivalency between Hamas and Israel actions based upon what I'm currently seeing with my own eyes and the totality of what has happened historically.Conflating Palestinians and Hamas as the same provides complete justification for every Palestinian death. That's too easy. I agree that polls do suggest that Gazans support Hamas. I have no idea why that is, but I also don't see that they have any alternative or that anyone is giving them an alternative, not least as Hamas would likely kill them! The PLA was an alternative, they proved themselves to be corrupt and inept, and remain so in the West Bank to this day.
Its hardly a surprise that Hamas imbeds itself in the civilian population. The question then becomes are you better than them, the same or more callous, given you have superiority in arms, numbers and technology. Hiding behind the refrain above doesn't excuse the death and destruction.
Israel is directly responsible for the Gazans. It is an occupied territory. They control everything that goes in and out and have done for decades. They are (internationally) responsible for every life in it. If they want out of that resonsibility then say the word and I'm sure it can be sorted out. They haven't and won't. Its a far stretch to call it a war. Are you acknowledging that innocent civilians are starving, is that OK? How many need to starve to death before the "I haven't killed every Hamas terrorist yet" isn't a good enough excuse?
For your Qs
- the settlers have been actively violent against Palestinians for a couple of decades. When they are tried, they are rarely convicted. There are 500K of them, and they are actively part of the current Israeli government.
- why don't Palestinians have equal rights in their own country? Who decided which ones could stay and which ones would be kicked out of their homes and shunted to the two current camps aka occupied territories?
- Israel hasn't kept to the peace deal either, see the first point above.
- typically that part not agreeing isn't asking for more death and destruction.
- I can't answer for Hamas, and wouldn't want to. I also wouldn't want to use them as my baseline level and would be horrified if my actions were so bad that I had to use their actions as "justification" - that would seem to make me no better.
- Apparently not. There have been rockets going from Gaza to Israel for years. There have been Israeli counter attacks etc going on for years. There was never an incursion and massacre like Oct 7th prior, but no, there was no ceasefire.
I was skeptical of the numbers too, but I've seen the qualification in a variety of media that the source for the numbers is generally accurate, so they are taken as verbatim. I have also not seen much denial from Israel and in fact have seen Israeli sources stating that they have killed 10-12K Hamas fighters and acknowledging the collateral deaths which are always a multiple. Below is from the BBC (Feb) and quotes a variety of official Israeli sources - you're welcome.
Israel Gaza: Checking Israel's claim to have killed 10,000 Hamas fighters
BBC Verify examines the evidence on combatant deaths, as concern grows about the scale of civilian killing.
I haven't read that Hamas is refusing it. I sincerely hope they do take the 40 day truce offer and that it can then become permanent.
www.bbc.com
What could possibly be Hamas incentive for over reporting women and children deaths?
Hound makes a great point. I really like everyone's involvement. The views are through the roof. We all need each other. As long as fairness, respect and dignity is the foundation of us all, then let's play a new game of life. That old guard was getting nasty and quite frankly, full of themselves. The go has needs man. Let's play fair and square and let the best human win. Earth is going to be a place to play, rest, relax and give some time to help heal other each day. No more 10-hour days working as slaves. If each of us gives 4 hours a day, rest on Sunday, and then the rest of each day is to play, relax, sleep, eat and whatever other activities you like. This place can and will be epic. War is shit. No one wins in a war, just the rich punks at the top that made this dumb game up in the first place. We were born into this game called, "PAY-FOR-PLAY." The one's at the top feast on children. ISANE!!!Way to be humble Watty. I'm going to sit out for a few and just take in all the takes each of you have. Together we can make things better. The participation is through the roof, and I'm just tickled to death. God bless you all and God bless America!!!!
I hope they accept it too.I haven't read that Hamas is refusing it. I sincerely hope they do take the 40 day truce offer and that it can then become permanent.
"Hamas has only said publicly that it is studying the new Israeli proposal, but an unnamed senior official told AFP news agency on Sunday that "the atmosphere is positive unless there are new Israeli obstacles".
"There are no major issues in the observations and inquiries submitted by Hamas regarding the contents [of the proposal]," they added."
Gaza war: US 'hopeful' Hamas will accept Israel's new ceasefire offer
The secretary of state calls Israel's latest offer for a hostage release "extraordinarily generous".
