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Slobodan said:
Where is CisKerTard? I wonder if he thinks it's fascist to deny people in Colorado the right to vote for someone based on accusations.

apnews.com

Colorado Supreme Court declares Donald Trump is ineligible for the White House

The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the 2024 primary ballot under the Constitution's insurrection clause.
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That's not fascism, that's stupidity. It has zero chance of holding up and it just feeds Trump's narrative that the our government is being weaponized against him, which only strengthens his base and probably recruits some others that want to give the middle finger. The Dem's most effective strategy would be to ignore him. Repub's are the only ones that have a chance of beating Trump, although they're doing a poor job too.
 
watfly said:
That's not fascism, that's stupidity. It has zero chance of holding up and it just feeds Trump's narrative that the our government is being weaponized against him, which only strengthens his base and probably recruits some others that want to give the middle finger. The Dem's most effective strategy would be to ignore him. Repub's are the only ones that have a chance of beating Trump, although they're doing a poor job too.
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Do you think Trump should not be held accountable for his actions? And, should that apply to all politicians running for office?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Do you think Trump should not be held accountable for his actions? And, should that apply to all politicians running for office?
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Hi Dumb, where is Dumber? You two are morons.....lol! Espola and his high court of cheaters think they are the ones to hold t accountable. These so-called men have collectively hurt our amazing country because of their sexual fetishes, their love for power & control and their hate for Trump, God and Crush. I dealt with these amigos in youth soccer. Total control freaks WHO lie, steal and cheat to get what they want.
 
Alan Dershowitz is fed up:

“In the sixty years I’ve been practicing and teaching law, I’ve never seen a decision that is so antidemocratic and so unconstitutional. It is absurd.”

Espola and his gang of cheaters, liars, Pedos, killers, Bio-Weapon Jabbers, mask freaks, Marxist Maniacs, Charlie the Commies and all the others, will rut in prison or worse after this is all over. These fuks have cheated and then they say you are the cheater. Dumb says someone needs to deal with Trump and Dumber thinks Hunter's Laptop from Hell is fake.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Do you think Trump should not be held accountable for his actions? And, should that apply to all politicians running for office?
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I'll indulge the strawman.

Yes, it should apply equally to all politicians with the appropriate due process. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall that Trump been criminally convicted of insurrection in a court of law. Most legal pundits on both sides of the aisle don't believe the Colorado decision will hold up to judicial scrutiny.

Trump has made his own bed and has to deal with the legitimate consequences and prosecutions. However, some, or at least one, of his prosecutions are very questionable and/or grossly overcharged. The current civil fraud trial in New York is the prime example. While I don't condone lying on a financial statement, most loan applications exaggerate assets and none of the lenders incurred damages (real estate asset valuations are very subjective). In fact, the lenders testified that they didn't rely on his embellished financial statements nor did they incur any damages. Can you show me someone that has been prosecuted in NY with this same fact pattern? Combine this with the judges ridiculous and completely unsubstantiated claim that Maralago is only worth $18mm, and its obvious this is hardly a good faith prosecution. Do I feel sorry for him? No, but it feeds into the narrative that the government has been weaponized against him.

There is a saying that "pigs get fat, and hogs get slaughtered". The Dems are in hog mode, aka desperation mode, because they realize Biden can't beat Trump in the voting booth, so they will try anything to get him off the ballot.
 
watfly said:
I'll indulge the strawman.

Yes, it should apply equally to all politicians with the appropriate due process. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall that Trump been criminally convicted of insurrection in a court of law. Most legal pundits on both sides of the aisle don't believe the Colorado decision will hold up to judicial scrutiny.

Trump has made his own bed and has to deal with the legitimate consequences and prosecutions. However, some, or at least one, of his prosecutions are very questionable and/or grossly overcharged. The current civil fraud trial in New York is the prime example. While I don't condone lying on a financial statement, most loan applications exaggerate assets and none of the lenders incurred damages (real estate asset valuations are very subjective). In fact, the lenders testified that they didn't rely on his embellished financial statements nor did they incur any damages. Can you show me someone that has been prosecuted in NY with this same fact pattern? Combine this with the judges ridiculous and completely unsubstantiated claim that Maralago is only worth $18mm, and its obvious this is hardly a good faith prosecution. Do I feel sorry for him? No, but it feeds into the narrative that the government has been weaponized against him.

There is a saying that "pigs get fat, and hogs get slaughtered". The Dems are in hog mode, aka desperation mode, because they realize Biden can't beat Trump in the voting booth, so they will try anything to get him off the ballot.
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You make me laugh, cry and get pissed off dude. Not too many can do that to me. Due process is 100% correct. All his bullshit prosecutions are fucking destroying our country and justice system dude. Come on, you're not that stupid....lol. I know you hate Trump, but that does not make it right to do what these lefties have done. Fucking Espola is so far left and I mean as far left as you can see and way past Marxism. He's a "guilty as I charge kind of jackass and then prove your innocence and I will still find you guilty" kind of asshole. Trump did make his own bed but then asshats came in, through shit everywhere, took his boxes at Mara Lago, through shit on the ground and smelled his wives' panties and integrated his son for over 40 hours. These is fucking bullshit. The whack AG (Soros bought, bribed and blackmailed) and the crazy judge, who already said Trump is guilty is why our great country is going down the drain.
 
More Bombs

"The government doesn’t just leak to the media, the government conspires with the mainstream media. They did so during Russiagate. Joe Biden’s FBI and DOJ have leaked probably classified, definitely confidential, information about the ongoing investigation into the Hunter Biden and Biden family crime saga. They leaked it to The Washington Post, The New York Times, and CNN is reporting now that the information on Hunter’s laptop appears to check out and is actually criminal; that’s not by accident. Trump has shifted the landscape, and now everybody how dominating of a performance he’s putting on in the country in the polls, and so the media’s option now is join together with the Deep State operatives, FBI, and DOJ, "We’re gonna steal another election and showing Joe Biden the exit door by finally truthfully reporting on it." It’s the ultimate irony of ironies: they could’ve reported on this stuff before the last election, they could’ve talked about Hunter Biden’s laptop, not called it disinformation, and put it on display—the criminality—whether it’s prostitutes, drugs, underage women, tax fraud, you name it, but they intentionally chose not to because at the time it benefited the Deep State. What benefits the Deep State now is someone that can beat T and that ain’t Joe Biden."
 
Kash is asked why there was no accountability for Hillary Clinton re: Russiagate.

KASH: "Because the Deep State is so big and pervasive, is the short answer that Hillary Clinton essentially got a pass. The lady who bought and paid for foreign and fake intelligence funneled it into the FBI and had them lie to a federal court to illegally surveil her political opponent, SHE is the one calling @realDonaldTrump a dictator. When during the Trump administration did he act like one? Did he hijack the military and stay in the White House unlawfully? Did he call me and ask for the uniformed soldiers in this country to make sure the election was overturned? Did he do any of these things that would remotely even resemble dictatorships? No. He followed the Constitution."
 
watfly said:
I'll indulge the strawman.

Yes, it should apply equally to all politicians with the appropriate due process. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall that Trump been criminally convicted of insurrection in a court of law. Most legal pundits on both sides of the aisle don't believe the Colorado decision will hold up to judicial scrutiny.

Trump has made his own bed and has to deal with the legitimate consequences and prosecutions. However, some, or at least one, of his prosecutions are very questionable and/or grossly overcharged. The current civil fraud trial in New York is the prime example. While I don't condone lying on a financial statement, most loan applications exaggerate assets and none of the lenders incurred damages (real estate asset valuations are very subjective). In fact, the lenders testified that they didn't rely on his embellished financial statements nor did they incur any damages. Can you show me someone that has been prosecuted in NY with this same fact pattern? Combine this with the judges ridiculous and completely unsubstantiated claim that Maralago is only worth $18mm, and its obvious this is hardly a good faith prosecution. Do I feel sorry for him? No, but it feeds into the narrative that the government has been weaponized against him.

There is a saying that "pigs get fat, and hogs get slaughtered". The Dems are in hog mode, aka desperation mode, because they realize Biden can't beat Trump in the voting booth, so they will try anything to get him off the ballot.
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The fake electors scam, his blatant disregard for national security and the deals his daughter and son in law received from China and the Saudi’s is enough for me.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
The fake electors scam, his blatant disregard for national security and the deals his daughter and son in law received from China and the Saudi’s is enough for me.
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That's why you have the right to vote. Why aren't you willing to give others the same consideration? I suspect it's because you're afraid Biden doesn't have the votes to beat Trump?

You asked me if politicians shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. Do you believe we should suspend the standard of "innocent until proven guilty" when convicting a politician of a criminal act? Many Dems are so desperate to get rid of Trump that they're willing to ignore due process. Who's the threat to Democracy?

It won't surprise me if the Supreme Court overturns the CSC decision 8-1 or maybe 9-0.
 
watfly said:
That's why you have the right to vote. Why aren't you willing to give others the same consideration? I suspect it's because you're afraid Biden doesn't have the votes to beat Trump?

You asked me if politicians shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. Do you believe we should suspend the standard of "innocent until proven guilty" when convicting a politician of a criminal act? Many Dems are so desperate to get rid of Trump that they're willing to ignore due process. Who's the threat to Democracy?

It won't surprise me if the Supreme Court overturns the CSC decision 8-1 or maybe 9-0.
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Seems you are assuming my position, building a straw man. I have no idea how the Colorado SC came to their decision and doubt it’s constitutionally sound.
 
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