Also not news is that both of them were caught in obvious lies.
It's never news either when your Papa Joe gets fact-checked on one of his many BS statements.
"I was there when they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima" (Fact checked-LIE)
"I once climbed Everest..solo." (Fact checked-LIE)
We all know he didn't say either of these..(who knows..he just might one day) but you see where I'm going.
He spins yarn all day and then when he gets called on it and it's proven to be BS it just gets swept under the rug.