The Inevitable New The Inevitable Trump Mocking Thread

Bruddah IZ said:
Are you really doubting that tariffs and QE effects prices and supply and demand in exactly the same way? Especially, since you consider it "first week econ 101a". You seem conflicted. I don't remember any epidemiological analogies in that first week of economics either. I somewhat agree that my point might be too broad for most. But F.A. Hayek said it best in describing economics. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to man how little he knows about what he imagines he can design". Both QE and tariffs have repeatedly shown us how our government becomes the "con" in economics. I assume that you'll default to the, "but we need government to protect us from the ill effects of the market". That's fine, I'm for private property rights, easy taxes, and the rule of law. Both QE and tariffs obscure the law and rob the citizen of their hard earned savings and property. There is a broad explanation for what I just posted. It goes beyond first week econ but I started this thread with money and interest rates. You should start there and I'll be happy to provide further explanations if you require them. Laced and I had a very good conversation concerning money and how it really works.

There is not a single national economic policy that even comes close to distorting the markets like QE does. A broader conversation is needed but since you find it "too broad to be interesting or informative" you remain uninformed while some of the basics are discussed and solidified in the initial post of this thread.

Pure markets become fantasy whenever QE or tariffs are employed. The history of the negative effects of QE type monetary policy and tariffs are well documented for those who don't find economics "too broad to be interesting or informative".......in the real world that is.
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http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/essential-economics-for-politicians.694/
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Are you really doubting that tariffs and QE effects prices and supply and demand in exactly the same way? Especially, since you consider it "first week econ 101a". You seem conflicted. I don't remember any epidemiological analogies in that first week of economics either. I somewhat agree that my point might be too broad for most. But F.A. Hayek said it best in describing economics. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to man how little he knows about what he imagines he can design". Both QE and tariffs have repeatedly shown us how our government becomes the "con" in economics. I assume that you'll default to the, "but we need government to protect us from the ill effects of the market". That's fine, I'm for private property rights, easy taxes, and the rule of law. Both QE and tariffs obscure the law and rob the citizen of their hard earned savings and property. There is a broad explanation for what I just posted. It goes beyond first week econ but I started this thread with money and interest rates. You should start there and I'll be happy to provide further explanations if you require them. Laced and I had a very good conversation concerning money and how it really works.

There is not a single national economic policy that even comes close to distorting the markets like QE does. A broader conversation is needed but since you find it "too broad to be interesting or informative" you remain uninformed while some of the basics are discussed and solidified in the initial post of this thread.

Pure markets become fantasy whenever QE or tariffs are employed. The history of the negative effects of QE type monetary policy and tariffs are well documented for those who don't find economics "too broad to be interesting or informative".......in the real world that is.
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Are you really claiming that tariffs and QE distort price and markets in the same way at the same rate? Ok. You go with that brush as broad as the world.

It truly is, however, as stupid an opinion as I've heard in a long time. You know water, glass and atmosphere distort light. Yet anyone who can't discern the difference in the distortion ends up wet, walking into a building or strolling off the edge of the earth...
 
Different tariffs on different industries don't even distort prices in the same way (or effect GDP, balance of trade etc in the same way.) To state it does is simply to ignore reality. What Iz is arguing is: Gravity makes things fall - and if they hit your head they hurt! Which, of course, is generally true, but there is usually a vast different between a jet engine falling from the sky and hitting you in the head and a sharp pine cone. While the "broad strokes" of the mechanism is the same for both, the end result is, in most cases, vastly difference.

It's really not that hard.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
There’s your Hayekian streak.
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Sure. Or you can ask a car builder: "Will QE and tariffs on steel affect my business the same way?" And they will say "yes" and go out business (or need more government intervention) or they will say "no" and take appropriate steps in either case, which, if they wish to stay in business, will be different.

Or the can walk into the ocean and drown thinking it's the light distorted by the window of their office building.
 
Friesland said:
Sure. Or you can ask a car builder: "Will QE and tariffs on steel affect my business the same way?" And they will say "yes" and go out business (or need more government intervention) or they will say "no" and take appropriate steps in either case, which, if they wish to stay in business, will be different.
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Yesss!!! You are a true student of Hayek realizing that there are a lot of moving pieces.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Show me.
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Uh... you just wrote it. Verbatim.

BRO IZ: "Are you really doubting that tariffs and QE effects prices and supply and demand in exactly the same way? Especially, since you consider it "first week econ 101a". You seem conflicted. I don't remember any epidemiological analogies in that first week of economics either. I somewhat agree that my point might be too broad for most. But F.A. Hayek said it best in describing economics. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to man how little he knows about what he imagines he can design". Both QE and tariffs have repeatedly shown us how our government becomes the "con" in economics. I assume that you'll default to the, "but we need government to protect us from the ill effects of the market". That's fine, I'm for private property rights, easy taxes, and the rule of law. Both QE and tariffs obscure the law and rob the citizen of their hard earned savings and property. There is a broad explanation for what I just posted. It goes beyond first week econ but I started this thread with money and interest rates. You should start there and I'll be happy to provide further explanations if you require them. Laced and I had a very good conversation concerning money and how it really works.

There is not a single national economic policy that even comes close to distorting the markets like QE does. A broader conversation is needed but since you find it "too broad to be interesting or informative" you remain uninformed while some of the basics are discussed and solidified in the initial post of this thread.

Pure markets become fantasy whenever QE or tariffs are employed. The history of the negative effects of QE type monetary policy and tariffs are well documented for those who don't find economics "too broad to be interesting or informative".......in the real world that is."

I think maybe you're just crazy.
 
Friesland said:
Uh... you just wrote it. Verbatim.

BRO IZ: "Are you really doubting that tariffs and QE effects prices and supply and demand in exactly the same way? Especially, since you consider it "first week econ 101a". You seem conflicted. I don't remember any epidemiological analogies in that first week of economics either. I somewhat agree that my point might be too broad for most. But F.A. Hayek said it best in describing economics. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to man how little he knows about what he imagines he can design". Both QE and tariffs have repeatedly shown us how our government becomes the "con" in economics. I assume that you'll default to the, "but we need government to protect us from the ill effects of the market". That's fine, I'm for private property rights, easy taxes, and the rule of law. Both QE and tariffs obscure the law and rob the citizen of their hard earned savings and property. There is a broad explanation for what I just posted. It goes beyond fir. st we
ek econ but I started this thread with money and interest rates. You should start there and I'll be happy to provide further explanations if you require them. Laced and I had a very good conversation concerning money and how it really works.

There is not a single national economic policy that even comes close to distorting the markets like QE does. A broader conversation is needed but since you find it "too broad to be interesting or informative" you remain uninformed while some of the basics are discussed and solidified in the initial post of this thread.

Pure markets become fantasy whenever QE or tariffs are employed. The history of the negative effects of QE type monetary policy and tariffs are well documented for those who don't find economics "too broad to be interesting or informative".......in the real world that is."

I think maybe you're just crazy.
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Am I? Or do both policies increase prices and thus distort supply and demand?
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Am I? Or do both policies increase prices and thus distort supply and demand?
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Yes. You are full of it. You just make crap up to argue. You haven't even characterized the entire discussion correctly - it started over Racist Joe's "question" whether the Dow falling off the cliff at the moment Trump announced tariffs wasn't due to "omnibus spending..."

Here's the exchange cut and pasted from just above your post:

Friesland said: ↑
Are you really claiming that tariffs and QE distort price and markets in the same way at the same rate? Ok.

Bro IZ:
I’ve actually said the exact opposite from the very beginning. Which is why you got all spooled up in the first place. Remember?

Fries said:
Uh, no. Now you're just lying.

Bruddah IZ said: ↑
Show me.

Friesland said: ↑
Uh... you just wrote it. Verbatim.

BRO IZ: "Are you really doubting that tariffs and QE effects prices and supply and demand in exactly the same way? Especially, since you consider it "first week econ 101a". You seem conflicted. I don't remember any epidemiological analogies in that first week of economics either. I somewhat agree that my point might be too broad for most. But F.A. Hayek said it best in describing economics. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to man how little he knows about what he imagines he can design". Both QE and tariffs have repeatedly shown us how our government becomes the "con" in economics. I assume that you'll default to the, "but we need government to protect us from the ill effects of the market". That's fine, I'm for private property rights, easy taxes, and the rule of law. Both QE and tariffs obscure the law and rob the citizen of their hard earned savings and property. There is a broad explanation for what I just posted. It goes beyond fir. st we
ek econ but I started this thread with money and interest rates. You should start there and I'll be happy to provide further explanations if you require them. Laced and I had a very good conversation concerning money and how it really works.

There is not a single national economic policy that even comes close to distorting the markets like QE does. A broader conversation is needed but since you find it "too broad to be interesting or informative" you remain uninformed while some of the basics are discussed and solidified in the initial post of this thread.

Pure markets become fantasy whenever QE or tariffs are employed. The history of the negative effects of QE type monetary policy and tariffs are well documented for those who don't find economics "too broad to be interesting or informative".......in the real world that is."

Friesland said:
I think maybe you're just crazy.

I was right earlier - you have some weird oppositional disorder and just argue to argue... Which is fine, but I'm not really interested in the runaround.

Anyway, I'll be on the road for a while so you can argue with yourself now...
 
Friesland said:
Again, I offer the bet, no one takes me up on it.

NK has been trying for YEARS to get a 1 v 1 meeting with a US Pres. EVERY US Pres. has said "no" because NK never lives up to its promies.

Trump is GIVING them the meeting. He is getting... what? What has NK agreed to?

Seriously - "meeting with a nuclear-armed, rogue-state, murderous dictator to own the libs" is not necessarily the best policy.

But, sure, they're going to give up their nukes and open an In-and-Out burger.
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Hey SLINGER....

You might want to check how many of his development facilities have been " Mysteriously "
destroyed....
He then started to destroy his Nuke arsenals on his own.....
Don't believe me Slinger.....Look it up in the real News !

This is what happens when you " Lemming " Liberals walk
around with your noggin Rectumfied...
The False narrative of the MSM has kept you in the dark like
rotten Mushrooms, thanks to all of the former Obama officials
who are NOW embedded in various Far Left News Organizations.
Once you hear the pop and you've been derectumfied take a deep
breath of fresh air and search for the REAL TRUTH !!

North Korea is in a World of hurt, and the pressure is from CHINA !
 
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